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Going on a complete tangent, it reminds me of P4Arena when you get Persona Broken. If you're Elizabeth, you can try and grab them with Shuffle Time, and the animation is long enough that it eats up most of the time before she's un-broken. She can also do a really low-damage combo that still involves like 3 or 4 super cancels for the same purpose.
Hahaha ya I mean most people (and Nintendo Reps) where asking me how I knew what I was doing the whole time. I love Rosalina's style. Swag for days!
Re: SoRo
Luma is the heart and soul of her game. Without Luma Rosalina is just an okay survivor, keep away character.
Don't get me wrong, the move is extremely versatile and a mainstay of her moveset, it just isn't the most effect kill spike. It's much better for its horizontal knockback effect and it works really well as a repetitive spike forcing them to constantly re attempt their recovery. It is a good control move and a surprisingly effect approach move is positioned correctly due to the large disjointed hit box.
SoRo is no where near as limited as SoPo. And it is beyond easy to stall out the Luma wait time. Heck because of the insane range of her up B you can even jump deep down the stage and then Launch up the underpart of the stage and grab the ledge to shave a good 4-5 seconds off your wait time. The stall tactics are something I probably should have included in my analysis but honestly it was getting really long as is...
Disagree. Longer is better. Look at the pages and pages of frame data m2k did. Extend! This is a really defensive character, and I'd love to see that!
LOLZ I was about to ask you this whole long thing about what you were disagreeing about with my Rosalina analysis until I realized you were disagreeing about my analysis being too long! Haha. Maybe I'll write up an addendum and post it here and maybe incorporate it into the OG article.
I didn't see anything missing as such.
What I am excited for is how much each matchup will necessitate a different style of play from both Rosalina and the opponent. And then also (if viable competatively) the evolutionary arms race of picking custom moves for each specific match up. Don't need gravitational pull against Little Mac but boy would Guardian or the blow away move be interesting alts to sub in!
NashRiskin
In your opinion, who's floatier among the three princesses, assuming Peach was playable in past demos of the game? Also, what's DI (Directional Influence)? Some terms used in the metagame are making me doozy since I'm a casual but still want to understand it? ^_^
Directional Influence is exactly what it says on the tin - by moving the Control Stick and/or the C-Stick in a particular direction when you are launched, you can influence how far you fly. Some characters do it better than others. Rosalina has great horizontal DI since she's floaty, and heavy.
Rosalina is "floaty" but has amazing Spacing ability. Additionally the Luma is quick and hard hitting so between the two of them they cover a lot of play style and they really compliment each other really well. Among the three Princesses (assuming you mean Peach, Zelda, and Rosa) I imagine Rosa but Peach has yet to be playable in any demo. That said Peach can literally FLOAT so I I think the real tenor of your question is somewhat missed on me.Makes me hype for RosaLuma again :3 So: no Luma means low KO potential until Luma can be resummoned. @
By "floatier" I meant whose falling speed is slowest and how long they can be airborne but in a way, you answered my question so no worries. Still waiting for damaging variant of the Launch Star though XD. Anyhoos, thanks ^_^
Thanks for reading! If you have any Q's throw them my way and I'll see what I can do with them.
NashRiskin
: While I did mention Meta Knight when I did my Rosalina article several months back, it was a matchup that I couldn't really determine who would have the advantage.
ChikoLad
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Well I won't be playing it 'til the game comes out because Nintendo hates my country!@
Ya I agree a lot has yet to be determined re: Meta Knight and Brawl Mechs. I just feel like I have been a scosh biased in my Rosalina analysis in terms of who can counter her and while watching that vid I could see glimmers and notes of how the match up MIGHT play.
I guess I'm just in too much of a speculation hype since that "leak" came out haha.
Re: Rosalina recovery
Ya its not THAT predictable I agree, but it is one of the few concrete vulnerabilities that I could find in her game. It's a very versatile move, especially since it rides under stage. I just want someone to poke holes in my analysis so there can be a little back and forth but from what I'm gathering on this Rosa page I may be the person who has played her the most (outside of devs obviously).
That sucks that you have to wait so long.....Well I won't be playing it 'til the game comes out because Nintendo hates my country!
But more seriously, I get what you mean - sometimes, praise can feel tedious, like you're getting too much credit and you would rather hear some criticism so you can improve.
But really, not many people outside of Nintendo would have played Rosalina as much as you, because most people were interested in the Super Fighting Robot, the cool boxer, or the ninja Pokémon. Nobody was hyped for the space goddess.
I think you're analysis is reliable. While it makes Rosalina sound like she will be one of the best characters in the history of the franchise, that's not necessarily poor analysis, it might just be the case. Maybe if you had this sort of time with Meta Knight before Brawl came out, for instance, you would have been able to call him out on his OP status before the game was even out.
This was a wonderful read, thanks.
I'm really excited to play as Rosalina & Luma; I've been planning on maining them since they were announced.
Your analysis has me even more excited from thinking of the possibilities they offer as characters.
Rock on man!
I want to see stall tactics, basic combo bait, matchup details, power with/without luma, and her relation to other characters. She seems like a mix between ICy and Peach, but I have yet to play her. I just watch her extensively
On the other hand, the opponent would simply focus on getting rid of the Luma, before pursuing Rosalina. The Luma may be a diversion, but getting rid of it would temporarily limit Rosalina's combat options for a while.
People tend to not see Luma as a threat so It can be easily punishable if you combine both of them
