5ive
Smash Champion
Anyone know what happened?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KF5L1ZL_M4c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KF5L1ZL_M4c
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Marth's Double Dolphin Slash
- Thread starter 5ive
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eskimo bob
Smash Apprentice
you landed and within the exact same frame used it again. I'm telling you, brawl is filled with more bugs than a flea circus...
Nibbity
Smash Journeyman
wow! that's really interesting, sadly it has negative effects in that situation than positive.
eskimo bob
Smash Apprentice
yeah, this glitch is impossible to perform and almost completely useless. it can be nice to know that it's there, though. maybe it can give someone an idea that may evolve into something actually useful.
Ulevo
Smash Master
Completely useless? Do you pay attention to your words?
This is just as useful as Meta Knights double Shuttle Loop. If we could figure out how to replicate this, it would be amazing for returning safely against edge guarders.
eskimo bob
Smash Apprentice
what I was referring to when saying it was completely useless was the fact that even if that could be replicated I can't think of any neutral stage that this could be replicated on and still be safe. you're completely vulnerable on your way down which will probably just lead into more beating. so sure, I may have gone a little overboard with saying that it's completely useless but I can't see this being very used in any level of play. it's also as I previously stated nigh impossible to perform.
also: mk has a double shuttle loop? that's news to me... although I don't check the mk boards very much at all.
5ive
Smash Champion
Youtube the double shuttle loop.
legion598
Smash Ace
i saw this a while ago and tried recreating it several time and it just doesnt work im sure theres a way tho i just dont know it
siqmonkey
Smash Apprentice
possible solution.
i have an idea on what happened. did anyone ever get rejected by a stage before? i mean like when you use your up-b and you don't grab to the ledge instead it just cancels out giving you another chance to use it again. well this might have happened to you instead you just kept pressing the b-button repeatly and you used your up-b right away after the cancel.
i have an idea on what happened. did anyone ever get rejected by a stage before? i mean like when you use your up-b and you don't grab to the ledge instead it just cancels out giving you another chance to use it again. well this might have happened to you instead you just kept pressing the b-button repeatly and you used your up-b right away after the cancel.
legion598
Smash Ace
yes that would be my guess now we just need to figure out how to do this on command
PaintedGhost
Smash Journeyman
Actually, in the slow motion part, you can see i stood on the stage, but in the same frame i used my UPB again (I was the marth BTW). It's similair to Wolf's technique, where you press away and then forward B and appear on the edge of the stage.
TKD+ITA+Mar=
Smash Ace
This happens to me a lot, but it's always on accident.
legion598
Smash Ace
i think this would quite useful considering marths horrible landin lag when stage recovering
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
If we could replicate this and not do it by accident, then marth would have way better recovery. I'll do some research and try to find out a way to consistently do it.
How would marth have a better recovery? That makes no sense. You are canceling the ledge sweet spot animation. If you could do something OTHER than up b'ng again then it would be useful. An extra dolphin slash would do nothing but get you punished.
siqmonkey
Smash Apprentice
i agree. you will just get punished.
PaintedGhost
Smash Journeyman
Why WOULDN'T you be able to do anything else? If we can find a way of consistently doing it we can, of course, implement other moves.
PaintedGhost
Smash Journeyman
oh btw, while I was in training mode, i did the double dolphin slash again AND it was on Final Destination.
manhunter098
Smash Lord
You have to space it correctly if you want to do it on command. Its not impossible, but rather impractical. The best use for this is mindgames though. It doesnt help recovery, and the second dolphin slash doesnt really do anything either, but if you can do say marths forward smash after landing on the stage (because Im pretty sure in that video he did LAND before he used it again, since he started the second dolphin slash right above the stage.
That said Im not sure its really a viable tactic since actually pulling it off would be a little too difficult.
That said Im not sure its really a viable tactic since actually pulling it off would be a little too difficult.
Hype
Smash Lord
This has happened to me a few times on smashville.
so basically your landing on the stage after doing your dolphin slash with no langing lag, then dolphin slashing again right? why wouldn't you be able to do any other mave after your first upB?
so basically your landing on the stage after doing your dolphin slash with no langing lag, then dolphin slashing again right? why wouldn't you be able to do any other mave after your first upB?
Demonstormkill
Smash Apprentice
I don't think he landed. If not, this has happened to me countless times. It'd be great if we could replicate it, but I have no idea how.
OmegaXF
Smash Ace
yeah That has happened to me before cost me a match when I know my character should have grabbed the ledge and he didn't. Does n e 1 have an idea on how to do that?
either you landed and used it in the same frame as he said, or you got as i say, "wolfed". sometimes when characters go to a certain point on the edge they kind of just bounce back off the edge and are returned their upb. i think this may have happened and you just accidentally hit b twice.
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
he just ledge cancels then immediately follows up with another dolphin slash
eskimo bob
Smash Apprentice
nope, nothing. I only find rollercoaster videos, shuttle loop glitches and 12 kos in cruel brawl videos.
Ulevo
Smash Master
It may not be posted on the boards, but it is very useful.
When you're near a ledge, reverse your Shuttle Loop so it goes backwards and Meta Knight glides onto the stage upside down without clinging. During that time, you can use the Shuttle Loop again for a fluid motion in either direction. If you do it correctly, Meta Knight should Shuttle Loop in an S Shape.
When you're near a ledge, reverse your Shuttle Loop so it goes backwards and Meta Knight glides onto the stage upside down without clinging. During that time, you can use the Shuttle Loop again for a fluid motion in either direction. If you do it correctly, Meta Knight should Shuttle Loop in an S Shape.
AdmiralComrade
Smash Journeyman
hmm this happened to me also but i didnt do it on the stage it looked like i missed the ledge (canceled sweet spot or sumthing like that) and i did another dolphin slash so it reset my upB without me touching the ground or edges
feardragon64
Smash Champion
While it's great that you posted a video, please use the search function.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163998&highlight=double+dolphin+slash
I KNOW I've seen another vid with this exact same thing before too(in another thread), but since I couldn't find it and got lazy after 2 searches, I can't expect you to find that other one. But still, this one had the same name as your thread =\
But anyways, as said before, it doesn't seem too useful to just do another dolphin slash. If you can do another attack, it might be a little bit useful. But not that much. You might be able to save about 0.1 seconds doing it instead of, say, sweetspotting the ledge, pressing back and doing the attack.
Nice try though =]
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163998&highlight=double+dolphin+slash
I KNOW I've seen another vid with this exact same thing before too(in another thread), but since I couldn't find it and got lazy after 2 searches, I can't expect you to find that other one. But still, this one had the same name as your thread =\
But anyways, as said before, it doesn't seem too useful to just do another dolphin slash. If you can do another attack, it might be a little bit useful. But not that much. You might be able to save about 0.1 seconds doing it instead of, say, sweetspotting the ledge, pressing back and doing the attack.
Nice try though =]
∫unk
Smash Master
This isn't that useful Ulevo... it's actually easier to punish from the slow land after the Dolphin Slash.
It has something to do with curved stages because I've only done it on Battlefield and Smashville.
Anyways if the opponent is close enough to get hit by this then just do it once and hit him with a ledge drop n-air. Most opponents that have played Marth know to stand back and just let Marth get back on stage. If you try double dolphin slash shenanigans you'll just get punished.
It has something to do with curved stages because I've only done it on Battlefield and Smashville.
Anyways if the opponent is close enough to get hit by this then just do it once and hit him with a ledge drop n-air. Most opponents that have played Marth know to stand back and just let Marth get back on stage. If you try double dolphin slash shenanigans you'll just get punished.
Rave925
Smash Apprentice
someone needs to find this out and post a thread up on here. It might not seem like theres not that much use for it but Im sure in the future there might be.
eskimo bob
Smash Apprentice
a technique that isn't posted on the smashboards? blasphemy! so you're supposed to go upside down onto the stage in the animation of the shuttle loop? hmm... fair enough. I'll try it out. however I still find the double dolphin slash very limited in areas of uses. the biggest thing I can see someone doing with this is doing it on someone who doesnt know about it that's standing on the edge of the stage and is edgeguarding. someone who knows about this will most definitely punish it instantly. however if we can maybe replicate this and then maybe get some other move out of it this could be a very effective technique that will make people up against marths have to play way more defensively when edgeguarding. where there's smoke there's fire, so to say.
Desire
Smash Journeyman
,, iv seen alots of vids like these, but better. ill mak3 a thread later.
Korea4ever
Smash Cadet
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The double dolphin slash seems pretty useless, as it leaves Marth high and vulnerable. However, Marth was standing on the stage for a bit between the two. If the first dolphin slash could be made to do that consistently, Marth can use dancing blade, for example, instantaneously after the recovery.
Do you remember whether you were mashing b or not, or if you tend to tilt the analog stick toward the stage?
Do you remember whether you were mashing b or not, or if you tend to tilt the analog stick toward the stage?
ya i seen that before i saw a video on youtube which Ike did the quickdraw move and hit the ledge and was able to do another move...but the person died cuz he didnt know that he could. He ended up doing Nair istead
TheX0913
Smash Apprentice
it looks like it has potential. Again, if you can find another attack to do it would be useful. For example, falco has the triple b reversal teachnique on battlefield that takes advantage of the same properties. He can wall jump of the slanted edge slide up and b reversal.