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Veng

Veng

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I honestly couldnt believe how many times I just read snake is broken, hes the best in the tactical discussion.

When I first played him, he seems slow and his moves have a lot of lag, or so it seemed.

How do people find him broken? ( Obviously I dont know )
 
Amide

Amide

Smash Lord
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Because of his ATs, outrageous hitboxes, amazing tilts, recovery. Projectile game, all attacks are kills. Mindgames, matchups...
 
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Fire4All

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I feel the same way. I'm thinking it is because he can set up traps all over the field....I picked up Snake several times and would get owned. I have to stick to people who actually...move....like Toon Link and...I EVEN DO BETTER WITH GANNON!!!
 
Cecilanius

Cecilanius

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People just say he's broken because they are just trying to make themselves feel better. They are just frustrated, apparently. Stuff like this happens in every game. Since they lose, their anger just makes them find excuses to why they lose. They don't even try to find ways to fight against the character they lost from. Excuses just show how weak people are mentally.
 
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Azgner

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Cecilanius said:
People just say he's broken because they are just trying to make themselves feel better. They are just frustrated, apparently. Stuff like this happens in every game. Since they lose, their anger just makes them find excuses to why they lose. They don't even try to find ways to fight against the character they lost from. Excuses just show how weak people are mentally.
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That is the best thing I've ever read. so true.
 
PKboy89

PKboy89

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Tuckahoe, don't say anything...lol
every character is broken, because everyone doesn't want anyone using their mains...
Umm...who cares if they jump on a "bandwagon" nothing wrong with playing a character you like, are good with, and nothing wrong for playing to win, people don't enter tournaments to lose with a character they don't like...
 
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Kodachrome

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Originally Posted by Cecilanius:
People just say he's broken because they are just trying to make themselves feel better. They are just frustrated, apparently. Stuff like this happens in every game. Since they lose, their anger just makes them find excuses to why they lose. They don't even try to find ways to fight against the character they lost from. Excuses just show how weak people are mentally.

haha....ha...aaaaaahahaha. :p Faux deep thoughts and oversimplification, for the loss. Let's not turn a game into a social commentary or psychiatric evaluation, pl0x and/or thank j00.

Sure. Yeah, people get frustrated. Snake isn't "broken," but I don't like being punched when I'm standing behind you. An excuse is an excuse. A viable excuse is a viable excuse. Not all excuses are created equal, and not all excuses are testamonials against one's mental fortitude. Many excuses start with a degree of truth. Snake is just incredibly hard to deal with for most characters and many players. That's not an excuse. Methinks you play the wrong kind of brawlers if you're getting little ninnies that want to cry about an ftilt from 20 feet away. <_<
 
Cecilanius

Cecilanius

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Kodachrome said:
Originally Posted by Cecilanius:
People just say he's broken because they are just trying to make themselves feel better. They are just frustrated, apparently. Stuff like this happens in every game. Since they lose, their anger just makes them find excuses to why they lose. They don't even try to find ways to fight against the character they lost from. Excuses just show how weak people are mentally.

haha....ha...aaaaaahahaha. :p Faux deep thoughts and oversimplification, for the loss. Let's not turn a game into a social commentary or psychiatric evaluation, pl0x and/or thank j00.

Sure. Yeah, people get frustrated. Snake isn't "broken," but I don't like being punched when I'm standing behind you. An excuse is an excuse. A viable excuse is a viable excuse. Not all excuses are created equal, and not all excuses are testamonials against one's mental fortitude. Many excuses start with a degree of truth. Snake is just incredibly hard to deal with for most characters and many players. That's not an excuse. Methinks you play the wrong kind of brawlers if you're getting little ninnies that want to cry about an ftilt from 20 feet away. <_<
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I was just saying what I believed. Nothin' wrong with that. It wasn't just for this game. It was for basically everything in life. People should get used to not making excuses because they get you nowhere and just make you sound like an idiot.

Oh, uh...Snake isn't the only one that can hit people behind him. There are many people that can do that. For example, Wario's Fsmash.
 
Browny

Browny

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Veng said:
I honestly couldnt believe how many times I just read snake is broken, hes the best in the tactical discussion.

When I first played him, he seems slow and his moves have a lot of lag, or so it seemed.

How do people find him broken? ( Obviously I dont know )
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every single one of his A attacks/aerials, 3 of his b specials and 2 throws are KO moves all < 150%. his out-of-shield punish game is incredible, his punches hit behind him, his tilts have amazing range, priority, more power than majority of characters smash attacks and are lightning fast, 3rd strongest fsmash in the game, his dthrow acts as a good tech-chase, upsmash is an amazing edgeguard, getting past a wall of mortars is extremely difficult, his recovery is on of the best, has the incredible mortar-slide (although it only does 4%).

and hes also the 3rd heaviest character.

hes not broken in the sense that hes unbeatable (hes very succeptile to chaingrabs and spikes), but compared to the rest of the brawl cast, he has more advantages than anyone else could ever dream of. most characters have cons to outweight thier pros but snakes bad points are so insignificant compared to his good points
 
Aziel

Aziel

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Snake isn't broken. You need to get your opponent all the way up to like, 50% until Utilt to C4 works.
Not to mention a big weakness for Snake is that the first three hits of his unescapable 4-hit N-air combo, don't KO.
Yeah, Snake really has it rough.
 
AfroTastic

AfroTastic

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Just because Snake's Ftilt, and Utilt and disjointed hitboxes people call him broken.
I have several friends who have tried to play snake and they didn't like him much and said he's a complicated character to play.
 
Aziel

Aziel

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AfroTastic said:
Just because Snake's Ftilt, and Utilt and disjointed hitboxes people call him broken.
I have several friends who have tried to play snake and they didn't like him much and said he's a complicated character to play.
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They need to F-tilt more.
 
mr_kennedy44

mr_kennedy44

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Snake is not broken. He can be gimped easier that most other characters. He can be spiked off the cypher easily. His explosives can hurt him as well. He's got his fair share of disadvantages like every other character.
 
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Kurosagi

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-Almost all attacks Snake has are kill moves.
-Disjointed hitboxes
-C4 recovery
etc etc etc

Basically, he has the ability to control the flow of any match. With well placed explosives, you can pretty much guess where the opponent is going to be next. Not to mention Snake players don't even dream getting knocked off before at least 150%. He has his weaknesses, but his strengths FAR outweigh them.

Id check the backroom discussion on Snake; a lot of analysis there.
 
Snail

Snail

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Blistering Speed said:
I love how all the Snake players downplay how good Snake is, Snake is my secondary and I'll be the first to admit he's **** good.
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Yeah, all the people who don't play Snake whine how overpowered he is as an excuse so they seem less bad when they lose, and all the people who do play Snake keep saying he's not overpowered so people won't think they can only win because they're Snake :ohwell:
 
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