Frame Data

Wunpee · Mar 26, 2008

How do people get a hold of frame data? For example, every now and then I'll see someone say oh this and this lasts 4 frames. I'm like 30 frames happens in 1 second, how do you manage to even see that?

Tristan_win · Mar 26, 2008

Well in Melee we where able to learn the frame data of every attack and movement, since brawl also runs on 60 frames per second then I guess they compare how fast something is or how long it last by purely comparing them.

GofG · Mar 26, 2008

I'm fairly sure that wouldn't work. I'm of the belief that, before the AR for the wii comes out, we're forced to underclock to figure out framerate data, and I don't think anyone has figured out how to do that with a Wii yet.

I'm interested to know, honestly.

Lechteron · Mar 26, 2008

There's always the old fashioned way of taping the match and going frame by frame (Can be done with many VCRs). I'm not involved in any of that stuff though so there may be more sophisticated methods but that would be a fairly simple one.

SCOTU · Mar 26, 2008

Here's how it's done: Training mode, 1/4 spd capture video at 30fps 2 frames of video to every 1 frame of gameplay. That's how it's done.

I seriously doubt there will be a brawl debug mode for AR.

SuperDoodleMan · Mar 26, 2008

So are there people working on that?

Rapid_Assassin · Mar 26, 2008

SuperDoodleMan said:
So are there people working on that?

That's what I'd like to know. Frame data is helpful.

Slashed · Mar 26, 2008

By the way, I believe there are 60 frames in a second. I believe Scotu knows what they're doing to get the frame data. xD

P.S: SuperDoodleMan...weren't you the one who got a lot of frame data/shine distance data for Fox in Melee? =P

Magus420 · Mar 26, 2008

scotu said:
Here's how it's done: Training mode, 1/4 spd capture video at 30fps 2 frames of video to every 1 frame of gameplay. That's how it's done.

You don't need to slow down the game at all actually. Normal game speed recorded through composite or S-Video at 29.97 fps 640x480 interlaced will give you every in-game frame when properly de-interlaced into 240 progressive @ 59.94 fps (640x240 resized to 320x240p).

Zink · Mar 26, 2008

someone should jump on recording that. huh.

metroid1117 · Apr 29, 2008

I've been doing my own (inaccurate) frame tests by going to Training Mode, slowing it down to 1/4th speed, then using a stopwatch and recording my times for attacks.

kamekasu · Apr 29, 2008

I'm collecting a lot of frame data right now.
I'll probably be done in around a month or two.
It resembles M2K's old frame data page.

Frame Data

Wunpee

Smash Cadet

Tristan_win

Not dead.

GofG

Smash Champion

Lechteron

Smash Apprentice

SCOTU

Smash Hero

SuperDoodleMan

Smash Ace

Rapid_Assassin

Smash Master

Slashed

Smash Cadet

Magus420

Smash Master

Zink

Smash Champion

metroid1117

Smash Master

kamekasu

Smash Ace

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