Possible Use for Down B?

This may end up being a really stupid idea but I was just wondering if anyone has tried using Lucas's down B as an attack move. The jump shine technique used with Brawl's fox seems to speed it up some. Mixed with buffering dashes could this somehow be useful? just a thought. haven't had time to test it much myself.

sometime i use it to knock out my buddies if we get to sudden death....usually someone who is fast because i dont think i could get my pkfire out fast enough.....i hardly ever use it as an attack during the match

after testing it out a bit it seems like it could be used pretty effectively as a surprise move. If you jump and (extremely) quickly use down B, you can turn around instantly and use against a chasing foe. I've also noticed short hopping it can do some very odd things to your momentum. Sometimes when I do it just right I can short hop forward, use down B and pull myself backward toward where I first jumped. I'm not sure how I'm doing it exactly though, don't have the timing down.

gsusfreak said:

sometime i use it to knock out my buddies if we get to sudden death....usually someone who is fast because i dont think i could get my pkfire out fast enough.....i hardly ever use it as an attack during the match

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why wouldn't you have tilted in that situation?....

ANYWAYS, yea you can use it as an attack but there is almost always a better option. and it does have a short startup lag but the trajectory is nasty.

I've gone out after Falcos that have lost their jump holding Down-B out waiting for the sound of the illusion to let it go.

i use it to slow my fall


much like foxs J shine

Today I was screwing around in training with it.. The horizontal knockback is great against some characters, it is a nice approach against some projectile spammers..

It does some weird *** stuff to your momentum. As mentioned before by others, there is some wird thing that allows you to instantly reverse your movement. I think it involves double jumping right before, as that was the only way I was able to nearly reproduce that effect on purpose.

I think it has great potential as an edgeguard, especially by short-hopping, turning around, and hitting people into the side of the stage. there is no upwards knockback, as well, which is important in brawl.