Character Weight Classes - backed by in-game data

t!MmY · Feb 16, 2008

Kirby's Star Shot (Neutral Special after Inhale), is a unique projectile in that the damage it can deal is based on how heavy the victim's weight is. By analyzing the damage each character does I've constructed a list of Weight Classes.

The list is organized from heaviest to lightest Weight Class, and then heaviest to lightest within the Class:

Very Heavy (18%)
Bowser (Koopa)
Donkey Kong
Dedede

Heavy (17%)
Samus
Charizard
Ganondorf
Snake

Medium-Heavy (16%)
Yoshi
Wario
Ike
Link
R.O.B.
Captain Falcon
Wolf

Medium (15%)
Mario
Lucario
Luigi
Ivysaur
Sonic

Medium-Light (14%)
Ice Climber
Pit
Lucas
Diddy Kong
Peach
Toon Link
Ness

Light-Weight (13%)
Zelda
Olimar
Sheik
Marth

Very Light-Weight (12%)
Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Pikachu
Meta Knight
Fox
Falco
Squirtle

Feather-Weight (11% or less)
(11%) Mr. Game & Watch
( 9% ) Jigglypuff (Purin)

Edit:
To clarify, damage done to the victim who is Inhaled and shot out is 10%. The damage the Victim deals as a projectile is based on their weight. Heavier characters create heavier projectiles which deal more damage.

Update:
Characters rearranged within the Classes to reflect their specific weights.

billywill · Feb 16, 2008

ah nice test

Inferno_blaze · Feb 16, 2008

wait so heavy characters take MORE damage? That's rather silly.

Xdrows · Feb 16, 2008

Great Find! Mr. Game & Watch is uber light!

Super Drybones · Feb 16, 2008

balloon pokemon for a reason

Evelgest · Feb 16, 2008

Interesting.. Falco a very light-weight and TL a medium-light.

MasterCheeze · Feb 16, 2008

Good thinking! I like these results a lot more than "knocking an opponent OoB from the middle of FD with Mario's Side-Smash."

t!MmY · Feb 16, 2008

Inferno_blaze said:
wait so heavy characters take MORE damage? That's rather silly.

Please re-read the content. Heavier characters deal more damage. The Star Shot always deals 10% to the one being shot.

Kevin · Feb 16, 2008

I remember someone else did a test on weight classes with a different method involving Mario, but yeah, its interesting to see that Toon Link is heavier than Marth.

Disco Ninja Monkey · Feb 16, 2008

This is actually pretty helpful. Nice job.

BentoBox · Feb 16, 2008

Inferno_blaze said:
wait so heavy characters take MORE damage? That's rather silly.

Not at all. Heavier characters spend more time boiling in the stomach's pool of acid as they're harder to regurgitate. bio101 sir.

Lingy · Feb 16, 2008

Nice test, some of those are pretty unexpected.

Big-Cat · Feb 16, 2008

Wouldn't Falco be lighter than Fox since he's a bird?

T-major · Feb 16, 2008

does this property work the same for Dedede's Star shot?

retro gamer 6 · Feb 16, 2008

interesting. this could help me with my own future strategies. nice work t!mmy!

Itakio · Feb 16, 2008

Glad to see Marth as being light. He seems pretty overpowered right now compared to most of the other characters.

CT Chia · Feb 16, 2008

very nice find, i never knew that kirbys star shoot does differ damage but it makes sense. its interesting that marth is lighter than like ness

Evelgest · Feb 16, 2008

KumaOso said:
Wouldn't Falco be lighter than Fox since he's a bird?

You forget that Falco was a fast faller in Melee..

J0™ · Feb 16, 2008

Xdrows said:
Great Find! Mr. Game & Watch is uber light!

He always was.
In melee, the only char who is lighter then G&W is Pichu.

Anyway, nice list, the gap between Fox's and Wolf's weight doesn't make sense though (but I guess they did that to balance em out)

Big-Cat · Feb 16, 2008

Evelgest said:
You forget that Falco was a fast faller in Melee..

True, I forgot the laws of physics and such don't necessarily apply in Smash.

Pi · Feb 16, 2008

Yea, I'm not too sure the creators had it in their heads that the animal kingdom rules apply to smash (birds and foxes), or that fox and falco were both fast fallers in melee.

squarez · Feb 16, 2008

Inferno_blaze said:
wait so heavy characters take MORE damage? That's rather silly.

Slow but strong? Not that ridiculous if you think about it. Also THX for making the list.

ROFL · Feb 17, 2008

niiiiiice

ive been very interested in this for a while now.

OrlanduEX · Feb 17, 2008

Marth is light now?

-Ran · Feb 17, 2008

Very nice work, thanks for the effort.

Nobie · Feb 17, 2008

Do these percentages also apply to Dedede and his star spit?

-Ran · Feb 17, 2008

OrlanduEX said:
Marth is light now?

Marth was Lightish in Melee.

Weight Listing from Gamefaqs said:
Smash Brothers Melee:
#012 - Pichu
#019 - Jigglypuff, Mr. Game & Watch
#029 - Kirby
#032 - Fox
#033 - Pikachu, Falco
#035 - Mewtwo, Young Link, Roy
#038 - Marth
#039 - Popo, Nana
#042 - Peach, Zelda, Sheik
#045 - Ness
#048 - Mario, Luigi, Dr. Mario
#052 - Link, Captain Falcon
#054 - Yoshi
#055 - Ganondorf
#056 - Samus
#059 - Donkey Kong
#061 - Bowser

2L84U · Feb 17, 2008

t!MmY said:
Please re-read the content. Heavier characters deal more damage. The Star Shot always deals 10% to the one being shot.

I got that from your OP as well. Maybe it isn't his problem ?

Kirby's Star Shot (Neutral Special after Inhale), is a unique projectile in that the damage it can deal is based on how heavy the victim's weight is. By analyzing the damage each character does I've constructed a list of Weight Classes.

Eldiran · Feb 17, 2008

Nice find, OP. I'd never have thought of such a method of measuring, and it seems it'd be rather reliable.

t!MmY · Feb 17, 2008

Kirby's Star Shot (Neutral Special after Inhale), is a unique projectile in that the damage it can deal is based on how heavy the victim's weight is.

There was nothing wrong, gramatically or structurally, with how I worded my sentence. In this sentence I'm referring to Kirby's Star Shot (a projectile) dealing damage (as a projectile) based on the victim's weight. But I can see how someone can assume I'm referring to the inherent damage the victim takes (non-projectile damage). I've added a clarification to my post to straighten this out.

(I'll be testing out King Dedede's Star Shot today)

ElectroBlade · Feb 17, 2008

Olimar's not THAT light....

Senshuu · Feb 17, 2008

Hey, Marth's pretty light. Doesn't really surprise me but...

Good find!

Luigi player · Feb 17, 2008

lol, I didn't understand what the percentages meant until I read that they were shot out to hit enemies.

Anyway, thanks for the list ^^ if Mewtwo will be in Brawl it should at least be Heavy. It can't be leighter than Charizard... >_>

Your Friendly Neighborhood Pimp · Feb 17, 2008

Wario = Captain Falcon?

I guess CF's muscles are just so dense that they weigh as much as a not-so-dense blob of... Wario.

Jumpinjahosafa · Feb 17, 2008

Your Friendly Neighborhood Pimp said:
Wario = Captain Falcon?

I guess CF's muscles are just so dense that they weigh as much as a not-so-dense blob of... Wario.

Density =/= weight

Otherwise, iron ships wouldn't float.

Frodnonag · Feb 17, 2008

cool. pretty creative test!

webrunner · Feb 17, 2008

Jumpinjahosafa said:
Density =/= weight

Otherwise, iron ships wouldn't float.

Density is the ratio between weight and volume- what he said about Captain Falcon was correct. In order for two things of different size to have the same weight, the smaller must have a higher density

RedMage8BT · Feb 17, 2008

Weight is the ratio between mass and gravity
Density is the ratio between mass and volume

Get it right.

timbers92 · Feb 17, 2008

It seems like Mario is average in everything. I mean like he doesn't really stand out anywhere and he isn't horrible at anything. In the list of weight classes, he has medium weight.

SOJ · Feb 17, 2008

LOL I like how Peach is medium-light and Zelda is light

PEACH YOU ****ING FATTY!

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