Final Smashes aren't so Final: Sakurai goes into detail about the Final Smash

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<p align="center">Sakurai today revealed some useful information about Final Smashes today that have had some people very anxious about receiving the answer to. What’s that question? Simple, it is whether Final Smashes can be triggered by themselves without involving the other items making Final Smash much more viable within a tournament scene.<!--more--><img src="/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/technique09_071205b-l.jpg" title="Break it down!" alt="Break it down!" align="middle" border="0" height="315" width="400" /></p>
As revealed through E-4-All and many other outlets, you can’t just grab the Smash Ball. One has to hit it several times before it releases it’s “good-ness”.

After you’ve obtained the Smash Ball, you’ll emit a glowing aura around you meaning your character is ready to executes its Final Smash.
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Obviously some Final Smashes are easier to pull off than others like Peach’s Final Smash which just knocks everyone unconscious and produces fruit, versus Samus’s Final Smash which is a straight power (and wide) beam.
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<p align="center"> Of course, don’t think you’re safe with a Final Smash because you got the ball. In fact, if you get hit enough, you’ll drop the ball so to speak and someone else can take hold of it.</p>
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On top of all this, based on a certain amount of point difference, you can be given a Final Smash for free which Sakurai calls a Pity Final Smash. One would assume this would be broken, but based on E-4-All videos the amount is kind of high to get that and if that is the case than it isn’t broken at all. No Final Smash will save you obviously, but <em>maybe</em> give you a free KO.
<p align="center">Now this most important question is answered here. Yes, Final Smashes can be turned off as well as let you decide on the frequency they show up.</p>

Made of win.

What about the music upate. Can anyone identify the game that's from?

Thanks for confirming it =D

Not bad at all.

Wate wat

This is what I get for not paying attention

Also that music is from... X?

a japan only gameboy game called X. made by some of the people who made starfox for the snes.

edit: and yes it is a shooting game.

Great! Now some of the whining that "brawl will be ruined!!!111" will die down.

Say, doesn't that game box (X whatever) look similar to the rail space shooting thing in the credits on Melee? Not saying it means anything in particular, I just noticed it.

and just when i thought samus coulnt look any awesomer

Saor Gael said:

Great! Now some of the whining that "brawl will be ruined!!!111" will die down.

Say, doesn't that game box (X whatever) look similar to the rail space shooting thing in the credits on Melee? Not saying it means anything in particular, I just noticed it.

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mmm true


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The update wasn't bad but wasn't good

Saor Gael said:

Great! Now some of the whining that "brawl will be ruined!!!111" will die down.

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Heh, I wouldn't necessarily count on that.

Either way it's still interesting to see the whole information right from the source...

Really the pity smash will only come up in limited occassions so it hardly seem worth worrying about.

I think the answer was common sense though. Thus I say the music saved the update.

Homelessvagrant said:

I think the answer was common sense though. Thus I say the music saved the update.

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There is no such thing as common sense in a game like Smash.

Now, I'm one of those people who tends to take things in stride. The production of Brawl is out of my hands, so when I heard about things like Final Smashes, no wavedashing, ZSS requiring a Final Smash, etc., etc., I just continued as normal and said, "There's nothing I can do about it. I'll wait to play then form an opinion." (Well... maybe not about the ZSS thing, seems stupid to have almost an entire separate character be deactivated by an option) But pity smashes just irk me so. I do hope there's an option to leave the Smash Ball on without pity smashes...

i'm just glad they've confirmed it can be turned off.
they'll be fun.
but they'd ruin the competitive balance.

There's a possibility they wouldn't ruin the competitive scene you know, if the Final Smashes are balanced and not broken then it would be okay, but I guess you're right, just look at Giga Bowser, that's just too much ...

so if you trun off the samsh balls does thsst mean no zss

Tanea said:

so if you trun off the samsh balls does thsst mean no zss

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I think not, personally. Since S/Zamus have been confirmed to be able to switch back and forth with Smash Balls instead of it just being a one-way thing, I would guess that you'll be able to choose to start as Zamus somehow (a la Zelda holding A in Melee).

It's good to see that Smash Balls are not being forced on us though. My group will likely keep them on, but more options are never bad.

I certainly hope some of the "Brawl is ruined!!!" comments die off thanks to this, since Final Smashes can be completely disabled, including the Pity FS.

I really think people are too pessimistic about this game and doubt it far too much.

And the music update wasn't bad. Wonder what stage it's for. Possibly a Fox stage?


Edit: I also hope Zamus is playable from the roster, preferably by a "hold A" method or something. Otherwise I refuse to count her as an entire character. Sakurai did say that she was only available "in special conditions" so it's still likely she is only playable after the Final Smash.

Aaah, good to see that most people seem to see the bright side of this update.
Explains having to hit the Ball to those who didn't see the E3 stuff, explains hitting the Ball out of someone who got it, explains Pitiy Final Smashes, explains that you can turn it off, PLUS some nice music and the hint that there will be lots of music from unrelated games. Sounds like a good update to me!


PS: When I first saw the title of this update, I was actually about to really get angry. "Okay, now he's REALLY pulling stuff out of his ***."

I am satisfied, the real question is when they will anounce a new final smash or sheik.

theONEjanitor said:

i'm just glad they've confirmed it can be turned off.
they'll be fun.
but they'd ruin the competitive balance.

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We'll make that decision when we know all the final smashes and we have the game in our hands for a bit, eh?

Anyway, the whole idea of a "Pity Final Smash" just opened up a whole new world of Trash Talk. "Dude, you got a PITY Final Smash ... even Sakurai knows you need help!!!" Man ... I can't wait to beat on my friends until they get a Pity Final Smash ... and then dodge it! Or make a huge comeback after getting a Pity Final Smash myself ... lol.

Saje said:

Now, I'm one of those people who tends to take things in stride. The production of Brawl is out of my hands, so when I heard about things like Final Smashes, no wavedashing, ZSS requiring a Final Smash, etc., etc., I just continued as normal and said, "There's nothing I can do about it. I'll wait to play then form an opinion." (Well... maybe not about the ZSS thing, seems stupid to have almost an entire separate character be deactivated by an option) But pity smashes just irk me so. I do hope there's an option to leave the Smash Ball on without pity smashes...

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If you're winning 10-0 10-1 isnt going to make a difference..

Fawriel said:

When I first saw the title of this update, I was actually about to really get angry. "Okay, now he's REALLY pulling stuff out of his ***."

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Yeah me too. I was like this is useless. But then I saw that he shed some light on the mysteries of the final smash. Plus more music is always good to get.

Do you think that there is a mode that allows you to play in your finalsmash form for the duration of the match.

I'm glowing on Standby, baby!

BTW, does anyone know if it's true that you can purposely 'destroy' a smash ball?

Isn't it cool? Monday was all about "Real men use items" and now, Sakurai confirms that you can deactivate the Smash Ball. Oh, the mindgames!

I never thought that you wouldn't be able to turn Final Smashes off. It's still an item. And I really hope there's an option to play as Zamus without using the Final Smash.

Love the music. Cool to see we'll be getting a huge selection of music this time around.

Although some may argue that today's update was lame, I think it was nice to finally get a confirmation about the Final Smash. Sure, most of us knew that they would be able to be turned off, but getting confirmation on the issue is still nice to have.

The best part of today's update, though, was indeed the music from X. When I first read it I thought "OMG MEGAMAN X MUSIC", but the music was still good regardless.

I'm glad there's an option of turning these off, but I hope this means zero suit samus is a separate character.

cool but we all ready knew this (like it anyway)

Maybe a seperate Zero Suit Samus icon appears on the character select screen after meeting certain conditions? Like, you have to "unlock" a "playable-from-the-start" Zamus? Then again that would be kinda stupid, lol.

In any case, I really liked this updated. I was a little bit irritated reading the title at first but when reading the update itself I actually really liked it, it goes very in-depth.

And yeah I'm pretty certain you can turn the Pity Final Smash off and still leave Smash Balls on. I mean, judging from past updates we're going to have a TON of customization in this game.

To force someone into a pity Finalsmash is going to be perfect.

Not a bad update at all. Leaves even more questions out there.

this would have been epic...2 months ago.
curse e4.