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Shulk. Ganon. Mac. Mario. Sheik. Jiggly. Yoshi. Not long combos (usually around 5 hits), but combos nonetheless.

Well besides Ganondorf, those characters can combo better than most of the cast anyway. I wish Marth could reliably combo

Marth can combo well offstage. You just have to stay close enough so you can recover, which is difficult at around 80% in my experience. His ground game, not bad, but meh.

*When the opponent is around 80%.

I think your definition of combo and my definition of combo are two different things, and I'd also say that my experience with Smash in general trumps your own.

My definition of combo is a series of moves that can't be escaped or airdodged out of. Smash 4 is basically full of these.

A string on the other hand is a series of moves that can be escaped, but the opponent keeps getting hit because 1,. they suck, 2. you have positional advantage or 3. you're hard reading them

No, I mean combo. I know the difference.

Smooth Landing heavy Gravity is amazing though

I really don't get why you hate the air dodge so much. It's an actual dodge now, how it always should have been. Melee's wasn't intended to be used for wave-techniques. That's most likely why Sakurai made it a REAL dodge.

Plus, it's more believable as a dodge.

True, but Melee's airdodge meant you couldn't spam it. I don't care about the airdodge enabling wavedashing. Sakurai can add a WD button in Sm4sh. This airdodge is too spammy and braindead imo. I can read airdodges and punish no problem, but it is too easy an escape route IMO.

How could it be improved? Making it so only one air dodge in the air makes no sense. Entering a helpless state makes little sense. And it gives the other player a chance, making it more fair.

It'd be better to reduce combo potential and increase fairness and string potential than to reduce fairness and increase combo potential.

No matter how you look at it, 0-death combos are not fair at all if you can't do anything to try and counter them.

There are two infinite combos. Fox's multishine infinite on a wall vs chars with a weight value of 87 or more, and Fox's waveshine infinite on Peach, Falcon, Marth, Ganondorf, Link, Bowser, Samus, and a few others that I care less to remember. Both of these are pretty technical.

All other 0-death combos in Melee are a result of hard reads,/bad DI on opponents part/comboer being nearly frame perfect (i.e Mew2King).

Infinite combos are pure Magikarp. It doesn't matter what kind of 0-death combo it is. It's still unfair. BTW I don't consider teching as a combo breaker unless they can shield. If you get hit immediately after teching, it's still a combo.

Thats a tech chase...

I consider it to be part of the combo.