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Recent content by JustSomeScrub

  1. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    On the tier list presented in this topic? It would have to be Ryu first at the very least. Just compare his lacklustre results to Marth. He has yet to make a single top 8 appearance at any major. He has a few rare 9th places, that's about it. And even with those he has the weakest results at...
  2. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    You didn't understand what I said. Let's say I make top 8 going only Diddy. Then in top 8 I play Ganon only. I lose every single game winners and losers except 1. So I get 3-0ed in winners as Ganon and then 3-1ed in losers as Ganon. In other words my only set wins were with Diddy. So why on...
  3. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Did MKLeo only use Cloud versus Dabuz? Did he go Marth for everyone else? If so, I guess we can say Marth just won a major. I don't think characters that win games should be listed if they don't end up winning the set. It's very misleading. For instance, if I make top 8 with a top tier and...
  4. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Anti's Charizard has won nothing. Everytime he's tried him, he's lost. He had a close set with Komo, that was pretty much it. Nairo is a lot more successful with his picks but like you said top tiers in this game have significantly better matchup spreads, which again is no different from...
  5. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Even if you took the top 10 in USF4 and stated all those were top tier, you'd still have way more high-mid tier characters consistently making top 8s at the biggest events. The game still had some polarizing top tiers but regardless, it had way more diversity in top 8s than Smash 4 probably ever...
  6. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    In other news Esam lost today to a GnW in round 1 pools...who went 0-2 immediately after beating him. In other words the only person the player managed to beat before getting eliminated was Esam lol. Poor Esam. He seems to get Smash 4ed harder than anyone else. And what is it with GnW players...
  7. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Yes but everyone hailed Smash 4 as being so much better balanced than previous Smash games, it's slowly but surely looking like this isn't really the case. Top 8s at majors tend to be almost exclusively top tier characters and doubles have been Cloud fests for a while now. As for Japan, I think...
  8. J

    Official 2GGT: ZeRo Saga discussion thread - Top 48

    Any-time USA sleeps on any other scene as they often do, this crew battle should be brought up. I haven't seen the US take a beating like this since Apex 2012. And even back then though singles ended up being an all Japanese Grand Finals, the crew battle was at least close. That was...
  9. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    I agree Bayonetta is at least top 10, I'm merely pointing out she has nowhere near the results yet to justify top 3 considering she has yet to make a single top 8 appearance at a super major. Results wise the best DLC character has to go to either Cloud or Mewtwo. Anyway top 48 for 2GGT: Zero...
  10. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    There has been a lot of talk about Bayonetta being the best character or at least top 3 recently. But she doesn't seem to have the results yet to justify that. Sure Salem has taken a set off most of the best players in NA. But even he has yet to have a breakout performance at a super major (I...
  11. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Funny thing is I watched and played competitive Brawl for years and never once saw someone lose with their main game 1/2 and then 3-0 the opponent with a pocket MK in top 8 at a major. Now Brawl MK is a better character than Smash 4 Cloud. But I'd argue Cloud is still way easier to pick up as...
  12. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    You are all missing my point and/or dodging the issue at hand. I play other fighting games, I know it's like this for nearly all of them. I understand play to win and have never criticized anyone for it. And I've already stated I don't even think Cloud is top 5 in the game. But this is the age...
  13. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Cloud has netted more success as a secondary than any other character by a significant amount at top level. Yes a lot of pocket Clouds get bodied because as I explained earlier, this mindset trickles down to lower levels of play as well. That's NOT an argument for Cloud being okay because "so...
  14. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    It disproportionately happens much more with Cloud than any other character. I'm not suggesting no other secondary has worked. But when literally half of arguably the top 10 players use Cloud to some extent, there's a problem. In particular, Nairo (doubles), Ally/Anti/You (some matchups) and...
  15. J

    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Smash 4 is more balanced than most other fighters, especially older fighters. I can see player's sticking to the same 5-8 characters in Melee for instance, because the gap between top and mid/low tiers is huge in the game to the point where low/mid tiers have almost zero good matchups with top...
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