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Recent content by BatShark

  1. BatShark

    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    We can PP Dsmash without Bidou, it's not inaccessible tech. It's hard to argue with some of the mobility potential, and I can actually see some of the options out of crawl being useful in very specific situations. As far as the BnB combos on away DI, a closer to frame perfect buffered run out...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Not convinced the benefits of Bidou outweigh what we lose for it, and I suspect this is probably the case for 3/4 of the cast.
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    Data Official MU thread : Breaking Clouds Limits.

    I think Bayonetta is a negative MU for us, but not hugely. Can explain in more detail later, having pretty good experience with Bayos of all stripes at this point. I *still* don't know how I would rate the Cloud MU. I think people were far too hasty in rushing to write it off as bad for us...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    So I want to circle back here and note that, in my experience playing since the patch, the 4-frame grab nerf is by far the highest impact change for us from this patch. Honestly not feeling much of a functional difference for our combo game on the UAir/NAir/DThrow changes, aside from having to...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    I got a FAir FAir Side B kill the other night at like 90%, so uh, that was neat. It's basically a buff ZAir offstage, trading safety for power.
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    I find Diddy to be her worst, honestly. Playing from behind in that MU is absolutely brutal, and the level of precision required to break even in neutral with him is silly, largely because we simply don't have a good response to SH FAir and banana-in-hand requires a ton of respect. His size...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Eh, possibly, or just less than perfect execution on the folks I've played so far. I tend to pay most attention to the % when I get the grab. Moreover, I've been feeling a lot better landing in between UAirs with some platform situation, at the low-mid %s, so that's been kinda nice so far.
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Honestly the BnB getting shifted upwards in % is good in helping to compensate for the Boost Kick nerf. Since the BK patch I almost never get kills off of it from stage level at the percents where it's true, and it's felt sliiiiightly better in that regard since. NAir BAir working at higher %s...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    I think these are appreciable nerfs, but are probably worse on paper than in practice. Our quality of life with things like NAir space, NAir on block (lol 1 frame) and grab active frames is going to go down a bit, but none of those are fundamental nerfs IMO. Our % windows will change a bit...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Ughhhhh EVO rules update. Lylat and DL swapped, the latter now a CP and the former a neutral.
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Having the option doesn't necessarily imply depth if the choices aren't actually all that compelling. There's plenty of prospective strategy in dealing with hazards that nobody would find acceptable on legal stages, but if the optimal line of play is "Stop fighting until X" then I don't really...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Of course people CAN do the opposite, but the surprise factor in that kind of play doesn't really outweigh the benefit of an attentive player using those transformations to their advantage. The issue isn't what's possible to do, it is what those transformations promote as optimal. If my...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Walkoffs. Multiple transformations that make it optimal to literally just run away and wait for a better transformation. Obnoxiously low ceilings at times. Funky blast zone constrictions during transformations. Sorry, you shouldn't ever die because the blast zone literally shrinks to...
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    Social The Zero Suit/Samus in Shorts Social

    Siege and Delfino are hot garbage. We are one Lylat away from having a great set of legal stages, no reason to mess that up.
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    Q&A Zero Suit Samus- Quick Question, Quick Answer Thread

    If you narrow this down a bit we can probably supply a better answer. This is essentially just asking 'how do zss?' which is a pretty broad topic. Until then, same advice as learning any new character. Learn their options, approaches, setups, etc.
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