Young Link's Dair, does it still have the fire spike?

[Megamanxtreme Unlimited]

Since our brave little green clad hero of time has made his epic comeback in ultimate, this question has been on my mind for quite some time.

Does anbody know or have at least seen any footage of young link having his fire meteor spike from melee? It was always one of his best kill tools and greatest spikes in the whole game, so I'm just curious to know whether or not he still has it or has sakurai removed it entirely?

 

[JohnKnight416]

So far I haven't seen any footage of Young Link's Dair spiking any of his opponents. It might've indeed been removed from the game entirely but I don't know for certain if that's actually the case.

I've never really played Young Link in melee before. How exactly do you perform his fire meteor spike in melee?

 

[Megamanxtreme Unlimited]

So far I haven't seen any footage of Young Link's Dair spiking any of his opponents. It might've indeed been removed from the game entirely but I don't know for certain if that's actually the case.

I've never really played Young Link in melee before. How exactly do you perform his fire meteor spike in melee?

Well it's like this, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's actually just random, but I have seen it spike opponents in melee though.
You just hit yink's dair and the opponent is engulfed in flames and spiked into the abyss. Highly effective.

 

[Bynine]

Well it's like this, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's actually just random, but I have seen it spike opponents in melee though.
You just hit yink's dair and the opponent is engulfed in flames and spiked into the abyss. Highly effective.

it is consistent, just very difficult to land, as the spike hitbox is the highest one, around young link's chest. the easiest way to land it, i've found, is to use a down air while rising, colliding with an opponent who's falling or on a platform above you.

i hope it's in ultimate, as it was a flashy kill option both on and off stage!

 

[Metalbro]

Yeah rising dair used to be the guaranteed way to hit with it in melee. Assuming it is in ultimate, it should be easier to hit since offstage play is much safer considering air dodge reads being more common in this games mechanics.

Even better is if you can do aerials whilst holding a bomb in hand, it should be even more safe.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Despite the abundance of Young Link match videos, I haven't seen a fire spike yet.

 

[Bakasama]

Young Link cannot meteor on downair at all, I tried both tipper at start of move and the head hitbox from melee just now. I'm a melee player, so I know how to hit it.

 

[0007]

Young Link cannot meteor on downair at all, I tried both tipper at start of move and the head hitbox from melee just now. I'm a melee player, so I know how to hit it.

RIP.

Oh well, he's already really good in Ultimate. I will miss it though.

 

[Shoopdawooper]

Young Link cannot meteor on downair at all, I tried both tipper at start of move and the head hitbox from melee just now. I'm a melee player, so I know how to hit it.

How many tries did you have? I don't doubt your skill, but I guess I just want to keep hoping the spike remains, but maybe in a hard to hit way. It seems weird to me to remove it. They had so much care in bringing his melee form back. And it was one of his coolest kill options.

 

[Young Link.]

So, does Young Link have NO SPIKE in Smash Ultimate??

 

[Chibi-Chan]

Here to confirm I can't get any spike of any sort with Young Link. Not even with the old head hitbox.

 

[JohnKnight416]

Here to confirm I can't get any spike of any sort with Young Link. Not even with the old head hitbox.

That's a shame. Getting the Dair spike with Smash 4 Link was extremely satisfying. It's disappointing that we won't be able to pull that same sort of satisfaction with Young Link's Dair

 

[Chibi-Chan]

That's a shame. Getting the Dair spike with Smash 4 Link was extremely satisfying. It's disappointing that we won't be able to pull that same sort of satisfaction with Young Link's Dair

Regular Link and Toon Link have it though, but I don't think they're as good as Young Link. There's plenty to choose from if you want a particular thing!

 

[Young Link.]

Here to confirm I can't get any spike of any sort with Young Link. Not even with the old head hitbox.

Oh that's unfortunate, I think all characters should have had at least one spike to be fair.

I see Young Link like Sheik in Smash 4, a good character, but having some troubles to kill.

 

[Chibi-Chan]

Oh that's unfortunate, I think all characters should have had at least one spike to be fair.

I see Young Link like Sheik in Smash 4, a good character, but having some troubles to kill.

Not really, he's more like Brawl Metaknight early in the meta. People THOUGHT he had trouble Koing because of low power, but then realized he had a lot of setups to get the KOs easy. Young Link can combo (with fair or projectiles) into Fair, F-smash, Upair and also has a decent recovery to go out and gimp people. To be fair, he's probably going to be able to score KOs more consistently than adult Link since he has so many options.

 

[roymustang1990-]

Young linkhas a cloud esque dair which doesn't lead into anything...

 

[Kienamaru]

The bouncing hitbox combos into uair and other aerials.

 

[JohnKnight416]

The bouncing hitbox combos into uair and other aerials.

Are you certain that Young Link can combo the bouncing Dair into other aerials besides Uair and are they true combos?

 

[Kienamaru]

Tested on Pit

True combos into nair/bair at 0- 29. Deals 30%,

True combos into nair/bair at 0- 29.
Deals 24%/32%
(Only lands the first hit of bair at low percents but eventually combos into both.

True combos into uair at 15-40.
Deals 32.4%

True combos fastfall rising spin attack at 30, alternatively, space it perfectly and hit with the edge of the move.
Deals 32.4%/28.8%
^ True combos up to 80 without the fast fall.
(At higher percents, it will miss the first slash, but still count as a true combo.

Late fastfall True combos into Utilt at 20. Hit with very late hitbox. Fastfall must be started late into the move. (this is the hardest one to replicate though I've done it a few times now. You have to hit with the late box but NOT bounce off.
Deals 27.6%

True combos into Fair hit 1 at 20-35. Spacing is important. Hit with edge of move and very late hitbox.
Deals 25.2%

True combos into Zair at 15-38
Deals 22.8%

Unfortunately, I can't seem to get anything AFTER the first hit of fair as a true combo. If it was used at the ledge however, the second hit of fair could connect.

 

[Pop0615]

Dtilt doesnt Spike anymore either?

 

[Kienamaru]

Doesn't seem to, no matter how I use it.