Yoshi Approach Question(s)

[PlayaFritz]

I have a well devoloped Yoshi, and am capable of doing all of the most technical things with him. One thing I feel im lacking is a good approach. I constantly find myself being pressured, seeing as Yoshi is somewhat slow and just going and running towards the apponent and doing a nair, or djc another arial. I just seem to not be able to get that first hit on the opponent that can break me free of their control. Should I really start dash dancing a lot before i go in, or is their a better way. Also I notice I roll a lot when im under pressure, is there also a better way to get away? Thanks in Advance

 

[Valban]

you could try to double jump reverse cancel to either fair or nair. catches others off gaurd as they might approach you as you jump away for just a sec. bair fast fall l cancel to whatever is also good.

 

[Shiri]

As far as getting away is concerned, lightshielding is really helpful.

I know I keep spamming topics and saying this, but it really can take a lot of pressure off your shoulders if you do it well enough.

 

[Bloshi]

Yoshi is more defensive than offensive, although a good offensive tactic wouldn't hurt. Try spamming short hopped (not fastfalled) bairs, since there's no lag at landing.

In addition to lightshielding don't forget spot-dodging!

 

[rmusgrave]

If you're being pressured you should use a few defensive techniques to put your opponent on the back foot. If you're not being pressured well... just enjoy the match.

RDJC, f-smash pullback, CC-ownage, DJCC-ownage, light shielding, shieldgrabbing smashes. Learn when to use them all and you should have less trouble.

 

[PlayaFritz]

K thx, one last question, should i try to dash dance a lot with Yoshi? Is it not nescessary? Or is it purely a players choice?

 

[Shiri]

I would only really dash dance if you force a tech near the edge.

It sets up great for whatever you want, provided you react quickly enough to your opponent's decision. You can also dash dance to bait pivots which is actually quite effective. You said you can do the techy stuff, so if you like pivoting, you can use dash dancing for that.

If Yoshi had better forward-reaching options on ground and in the air, then dash dancing would be a lot more effective, but you'll have to pick and choose what you wanna do if you plan on not getting grabbed.

 

[rmusgrave]

Dash dancing I use most often when I plan on faking the opponent out and dash grabbing them.

Not really that useful, and if you use too many evasive defensive techniques they'll learn their way around it.

 

[Hal-Yur-Azn-Pal]

DJC eggz, you can get closer while spamming eggz.

Kinda awkward I know, but it can be kinda usefull if you can find a place for it.

Plus you can always turn around if your getting pressured too much and still throw the egg towards the opponent to kinda defend yourself.

 

[Eggm]

DJC neutral B's work wonders against campers.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Well I was going to make a thread asking about approaching, but I guess I'll just post it here.

My approaches are not varied and are really predictable, but they seem to work well for me. Just wondering if my approach is fine how it is, or should I switch it up. I basically have three approaches and that's it.

1. Usually I will full hop or short hop a bair and try to land behind my opponent so I can follow it up with a utilt, DJC uair, dsmash, or whatever else is necessary.
2. Nair approach. I nair in such a way that I hit them and continue going past (so I don't get shieldgrabbed) and if they shield the nair then I can dtilt/dsmash to hit them or whittle down their shield.
3. WD dtilts and WD dsmashes. I space myself so I hit them with the tip of the tail. Pressures shields as well.

Any advice, or are these approaches good? I have a problem with priority sometimes. The bair and nair seem to have a lot of priority over others' attacks but every once in a while I go on a streak where none of my aerials will hit my opponent, and my opponent easily cuts through most of my attacks. I'm not sure what to do about that. Also, I have trouble landing dsmash sometimes. If they're right in my face, the dsmash tends to not hit. Is that how the hitbox is? That's my guess. What attack should I use if they're in my face? Ftilt? I don't know.

Hope I'm not asking too many questions.

 

[rmusgrave]

If you did 2 to me, I would jump out of shield and n-air etc, or else I would just WD out of shield and then grab.

Depending on the character for 3, I would short hop out of shield and f-air, or else just WD backwards and try to stay airborne to avoid this.

1 is ok if you're fast enough, but if I wait until you lag yourself from a tilt after landing, then I get a free WD punisher out of shield.

I'll let everyone else answer your other questions, I have to go.

 

[technomancer]

The best approach with Yoshi is to just walk forward and react, or throw out some spaced down tilts because they have like 0 lag. He doesn't have anything particularly amazing in the approach department. I only attack with him when I think I'll hit someone.

 

[flintstone]

normally i would distract them with an egg and short hop into a d-air or a b-air... but thts my choice as its what i find most effective...but the best approach is to wait till they come to you, since yoshi isnt a very effective character when on the move...

 

[RedYoshi92]

What I do with yoshi is to DJC attacks alot in combat,spam eggz from long range and Dash dance for some mindgames.I personally think yoshi should be used defensively.