CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
Be a boss character and make one yourself.
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YGD - As the snow melts, the mighty Dinosaur rises once more!
- Thread starter Delta-cod
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~Firefly~
Smash Hero
I really want to know what the hitbubble for Utilt looks like. :x I thought somebody posted images of the hitbubbles, but I can't remember where they are... >.<We seriously need a Yoshi hitbubble video, though.
bigman40
Smash Master
Hope you show it. Seeing is believing.
And time to **** the rest of you. Just because you're not putting up results like the top players doesn't mean you can't help either. Communicating is how we all improve, how we all create a stronger community, and most importantly, how we all improve ourselves. People that lurk aren't going to get the benefit they could be talking because you aren't asking questions and learning when you need help. You can't improve by yourself and only yourself. While stuff might not be correct and such, you can learn from it from people that know the area that has more expertise in such area; HOWEVER this does not mean that you shouldn't drop the area and leave it to one person. Think about stuff that you wouldn't think of instinctively (outside the box). Create discussions on it, and it'll promote new ideas and ways to handle scenarios.
To further understand how having an actively helping community gets more done and helps others improves more as a whole, take a look at the Melee Yoshi boards (around 2007 cause that's when I remembered) or look at these boards (the previous threads) when Brawl got started. No one didn't come out the blue and just ignored everyone else. Everyone came together to improve each other and find out everything together. When you look at the boards now, they're dead cause no one is doing the kind of stuff we did back then. You got new Yoshis taking over what the dead Yoshis stopped doing, and then those die off not too long after that. I know everyone had that goal to be the best Yoshi main, and if you can't show it in results right now, then ****ing show it by helping and making this community strong like before.
PS: Being social relates to this, but I'll let you guys figure out how.
/rant
And time to **** the rest of you. Just because you're not putting up results like the top players doesn't mean you can't help either. Communicating is how we all improve, how we all create a stronger community, and most importantly, how we all improve ourselves. People that lurk aren't going to get the benefit they could be talking because you aren't asking questions and learning when you need help. You can't improve by yourself and only yourself. While stuff might not be correct and such, you can learn from it from people that know the area that has more expertise in such area; HOWEVER this does not mean that you shouldn't drop the area and leave it to one person. Think about stuff that you wouldn't think of instinctively (outside the box). Create discussions on it, and it'll promote new ideas and ways to handle scenarios.
To further understand how having an actively helping community gets more done and helps others improves more as a whole, take a look at the Melee Yoshi boards (around 2007 cause that's when I remembered) or look at these boards (the previous threads) when Brawl got started. No one didn't come out the blue and just ignored everyone else. Everyone came together to improve each other and find out everything together. When you look at the boards now, they're dead cause no one is doing the kind of stuff we did back then. You got new Yoshis taking over what the dead Yoshis stopped doing, and then those die off not too long after that. I know everyone had that goal to be the best Yoshi main, and if you can't show it in results right now, then ****ing show it by helping and making this community strong like before.
PS: Being social relates to this, but I'll let you guys figure out how.
/rant
Poltergust
Smash Master
I don't have the equipment for it...
My Wii is a bit unstable, also. I seriously think it'll brick if I even attempt to hack it.
Delta-cod
Smash Hero
Polt, nobody actually hates you (I'd hope it's only trolling). But really, the problem is is that we all chat over Skype, which helps everyone build a bond together, so the support is more there. While you're a good player and bring in results, you lack the constant interaction with everyone else so you're somewhat more distant.
You have Skype. Get on it and join the chat.
As for the hitbubble videos, I remember us having problems with it due to Yoshi's tail extending or something during the attacks. The bubbles weren't accurate at all, so we didn't get one, even though we tried for it.
You have Skype. Get on it and join the chat.
As for the hitbubble videos, I remember us having problems with it due to Yoshi's tail extending or something during the attacks. The bubbles weren't accurate at all, so we didn't get one, even though we tried for it.
Poltergust
Smash Master
We managed to get the pics though, didn't we? Would making a video be that much harder?
And Skype... eh... maybe tomorrow.
And Skype... eh... maybe tomorrow.
bigman40
Smash Master
Yep. We already have one, but because Yoshi's tail gets bigger, it threw off the hitbubbles, making the hack less useful for certain moves.I'd try asking someone to get a personal hack done for Yoshi (probably innocentroads).
Poltergust
Smash Master
Weird... I know that his tail gets bigger, but what makes that different from any other character? Mario's hand gets huge during his f-air, Wario's hand becomes the size of his head when d-titling, Kirby's feet grow ENORMOUS during most of his moves, etc.. Why is Yoshi the only one affected by this?
bigman40
Smash Master
IIRC, it was because Yoshi has no bones in his tail. Due to this, the hitbubbles we saw were not proportional to what it should've been.
The one who made the hacks for us was Eternal Yoshi.
He posted the pics/Downloads in a topic somewhere, I downloaded them and been trying to think on how to take a in-sight look on the hitbubbles and (if I ever learn/Get to it) edit the hitbubbles around and make a video.
But sadly not really sure on how this stuff works, can't just jump in from novice to Editting hitbubbles to a character who has no bones in most of his moves since it involves his tail.
He posted the pics/Downloads in a topic somewhere, I downloaded them and been trying to think on how to take a in-sight look on the hitbubbles and (if I ever learn/Get to it) edit the hitbubbles around and make a video.
But sadly not really sure on how this stuff works, can't just jump in from novice to Editting hitbubbles to a character who has no bones in most of his moves since it involves his tail.
CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zmtzmqXTik
So umm more GR options, Hype maybe? We'll test this later tbh. No rush, boards aren't active enough for this to matter anyway <3
So umm more GR options, Hype maybe? We'll test this later tbh. No rush, boards aren't active enough for this to matter anyway <3
Poltergust
Smash Master
Yes, I know about that. It's also impossible to chain-grab Meta Knight when facing right.
Although, I haven't tried it with other characters. I imagine that everyone who gets released close to Yoshi is susceptible to an f-smash (like Squirtle) and characters who were released too far to be re-grabbed can now be grabbed (like Snake).
Although, I haven't tried it with other characters. I imagine that everyone who gets released close to Yoshi is susceptible to an f-smash (like Squirtle) and characters who were released too far to be re-grabbed can now be grabbed (like Snake).
Does anything effect Yoshi by Port priority?
Cause last tournament I was at, I noticed I couldn't SDI with neither my controller or Xyro's.
Along with laggy TV/No SDI = 100% to lose to MK.
Cause last tournament I was at, I noticed I couldn't SDI with neither my controller or Xyro's.
Along with laggy TV/No SDI = 100% to lose to MK.
Poltergust
Smash Master
That TV wasn't laggy...
Also, port priority should have no effect on SDI.
Also, port priority should have no effect on SDI.
Depster
Smash Champion
Polt I hate you because you didn't come to Ultimate No Koast 3 </3
Not really, but still =0
Not really, but still =0
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Looks like we could possibly even regrab, like the wario infinite thing. Just imagine, MK CP's RC, then we standing GR CG him until the blastzone gets near us where we fthrow ftk. ON HIS OWN CP.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Can someone add me to the yoshi chat
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
What exactly is going on in that video? Is he running and then immediately doing an Fsmash? Because if that's so I dont understand what's so new about that. :I
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
No, he's just small stepping > fsmash. The moving screen on RC pulls him closer to yoshi if you release to the left.
EDIT: Want this SO hard:
EDIT: Want this SO hard:
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
Oh, I see. >_> That's pretty sick I guess.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I'm not gonna lie......
that looks pretty sick
that looks pretty sick
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Zuruggu da BESS EVAR!!!
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Guys! I discovered something new! It's insanely situational, but it's pretty much a free kill on one of our hardest MUs!
If you're playing on PictoChat against Wolf, and you grab release him directly on the left ledge of the stage while the wind in blowing, Wolf will do an air release and the wind will push you off the stage, ending your GR lag instantly. Due to this, if you DJ Fair directly after the wind pushes you off, Wolf releases at just the right spot for you to connect with fair. Wolf also releases far and also is pushed by the wind, so its almost impossible to recover from (not to mention they wont even see it coming so they wont be ready for it)
Like I said, uber situational, but still cool amiright?
Also 1 post away from 5000, GET HYPE!!!
If you're playing on PictoChat against Wolf, and you grab release him directly on the left ledge of the stage while the wind in blowing, Wolf will do an air release and the wind will push you off the stage, ending your GR lag instantly. Due to this, if you DJ Fair directly after the wind pushes you off, Wolf releases at just the right spot for you to connect with fair. Wolf also releases far and also is pushed by the wind, so its almost impossible to recover from (not to mention they wont even see it coming so they wont be ready for it)
Like I said, uber situational, but still cool amiright?
Also 1 post away from 5000, GET HYPE!!!
Sephiroths Masamune
Shocodoro Blagshidect
No 5000 for you!
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
5k gogo!....
CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
How often do you Fsmash out of a run? lol
What happens is, RC moves making Mk land closer towards us Letting us take a step forward to fsmash him. The beauty is he's like right next to the blast zone so you get an early kill and he can't do anything during this so he basically takes the fsmash like a *****.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
You could GR > Dash > DR > Fsmash in a normal situation, I do it to MK to end CG's sometimes for extra damage or kills. You have to angle it up though, or at least, I do because I miss when I dont. Might just be bad timing on me, but tilting it up does more damage anyway so I dont care.
CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
And you don't get Shuttle Looped? Pretty sure when i tested this it didn't work. But as a mixup sure i guess. The RC thing is guaranteed tho.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I don't GR > fsmash a lot as Im bad at it, and I do get a shuttle looped when I try a lot. I always just assumed I was being too slow... if it's true that its not guaranteed that makes me sadface...
bigman40
Smash Master
Never guaranteed even when done frame perfectly. If perfect though, he HAS to airdodge or else he'll get hit over the ledge.
Guys! I discovered something new! It's insanely situational, but it's pretty much a free kill on one of our hardest MUs!
If you're playing on PictoChat against Wolf, and you grab release him directly on the left ledge of the stage while the wind in blowing, Wolf will do an air release and the wind will push you off the stage, ending your GR lag instantly. Due to this, if you DJ Fair directly after the wind pushes you off, Wolf releases at just the right spot for you to connect with fair. Wolf also releases far and also is pushed by the wind, so its almost impossible to recover from (not to mention they wont even see it coming so they wont be ready for it)
Like I said, uber situational, but still cool amiright?
Also 1 post away from 5000, GET HYPE!!!
(un)fortunately Pictochat is banned at GOOD tournaments (most of US sucks :D)
Poltergust
Smash Master
Really? I always see Pictochat legal.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I wanna see someone use that against a wolf in tournament lol
Yink
The Robo-PSIentist
Same, but I live in the Midwest, we like lots of things here!Really? I always see Pictochat legal.
Sharky
Smash Master
loving the look of these new discoveries, good **** guys =D
CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
My discovery was pretty old honestly lol. I told Scatz, Air, Slice and i think Delta and Hades (most of the people on the skype chat) about it but I think Scatz and Air were the only ones who remembered
Still needs testing though. Im Planning on recording a bunch of dumb discoveries i found.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Still think we should make a thread with all of the random things we can do. Even the uber situational ones (in their own group or something).
I'd love to read through all our shenanigans just to get in a situation where one would work and remember it.
I'd love to read through all our shenanigans just to get in a situation where one would work and remember it.