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A couple threads (particularly by Qwerty UIOP & Tankman from Newgrounds) have tried the idea of an Xbox/Microsoft Smash competitor. They have been inactive & I wanted to revive the concept but with a twist. Seeing the success & potential Nintendo found with the Super Smash Bros. series, Microsoft has decided not only to make a competitor but to make it a flagship series alongside Halo right from the start with their 1st generation console.
This project takes inspiration from GamingFan1997's Smash Series remake thread as we go through generations with different series & characters coming & going which should hopefully produce something a little different from creating a normal modern crossover (It would be cool to see other iterations of this idea too with something like PS).
Below is a rough timeline for the series.
Cuts
We will try to match Smash in terms of content, although we will be playing catchup but will hopefully close that gap with 360 DLC. We will be focusing on the Roster, Stages, & Assists. We will also talk about Modes & Items but how much will depend on general interest. Submittions will always be open if anyone wants to dive further into specifics with movesets, alts, music, etc. for entries they like but there is currently no intent to have dedicated jobs for these topics. Thread will normally be updated every weekday within approximately 24 hrs.
This project takes inspiration from GamingFan1997's Smash Series remake thread as we go through generations with different series & characters coming & going which should hopefully produce something a little different from creating a normal modern crossover (It would be cool to see other iterations of this idea too with something like PS).
Below is a rough timeline for the series.
Roster image made by darkvortex
- Dashboard (Xbox)
- Halo (Halo)
- Hourglass Caves (Blinx)
- Bowerstone (Fable)
- City of Troy (Age of Empires/Mythology)
- Treasure Trove Cove (Banjo Kazooie)
- Poo Mountain (Conker)
- Area 51 (Perfect Dark)
- Turbo Tunnel (Battletoads)
- Ghoulhaven Hall (Grabbed by the Ghoulies)
- Ferix (Brute Force)
- Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Simulator)
- Minesweeper (Minesweeper)
- Bliss (Windows)
- The Ruins (Phantom Dust)
- Haybusa Village (Ninja Gaiden)
- GFO Oil Rig (Splinter Cell)
- Soulstorm Brewery (Oddworld)
- Included Game Modes would be somewhere between Smash 64 & Melee.
- A major new mode would be Online Battles.
- Arcade mode is also noteworthy, The Boss is Clippy who also utilizes other Office Assistants in his moveset.
- 20 Items would be included. Below is sample of what would be included. Be sure to check out KneeOfJustice99's linked post for some great detailed descriptions for some of our items.
- Warthog (Halo)
- Overshield (Halo)
- ECM Mine (Perfect Dark)
- Playing Card (Solitaire)
- Shadow Doppelganger (Ninja Gaiden)
- At Least 1 Halo Gun
- At Least 1 Fable Sword
- At Least 1 Banjo Kazooie Magic Item
Roster image made by darkvortex
DLC
DLC
All Stages Returning
- Bowerstone (360, Fable)
- Dashboard (360)
- ARK Citadel (Halo)
- Tattered Spire (Fable)
- Banjoland (Banjo)
- Washington DC (Age of Empires)
- Jacinto Prison (Gears)
- Enchanted Kingdom (Kameo)
- Garden (Viva Pinata)
- UltraTech Museum (Killer Instinct)
- New Orleans Square (Voodoo Vince)
- Devour Village (Blue Dragon)
- Aperture Test Chamber (Portal)
- Sky City Tokyo (Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive)
- Forza Circuit (Forza)
- Blood Gultch (Halo)
- High Charity (Halo)
- Chip's Challenge (Chip's Challenge)
- DLC - Pacific City (Crackdown)
- DLC - Rapture (Bioshock)
- DLC - Old West Theatre (Gunstringer)
- DLC - Willamette Parkview Mall (Dead Rising)
- DLC - Cauldron Lake Lodge (Alan Wake)
- DLC - 99th Street (Jet Set Radio)
New to this game, work differently from Smash being selected before battle, tied to a button, & having a cooldown between uses (like Fraymakers)
- Grunt (Halo)
- Klungo (Banjo Kazooie)
- Dark Queen (Battletoads)
- Berri (Conker)
- Kantus (Gears of War)
- Theresa (Fable)
- Zeus (Age of Empires/Mythology)
- Maromaru (Blue Dragon)
- Elvis (Perfect Dark)
- Professor Pestor (Viva Pinata)
- Kalus (Kameo)
- Sabrewulf (Killer Instinct/Sabre Wulf)
- Tom Tom Gang (Blinx)
- Flint (Brute Force)
- Crawdad Jimmy (Voodoo Vince)
- Ghouly Amber (Grabbed by the Ghoulies)
- Chell (Portal)
- Rachel (Ninja Gaiden)
- Zack (Dead or Alive)
- Anna Grímsdóttir (Splinter Cell)
- Munch (Oddworld)
- Jetman (Jetpac)
- Rabbid (Rayman/Rabbids)
- Medic (Team Fortress)
- Bomb Jack (Bomb Jack)
- Toof (Whacked)
- Tank (Left4Dead)
- Hexic Cluster (Hexic)
- DLC - Dr. Baltazar Chernenko(Crackdown)
- DLC - Little Sister (Bioshock)
- DLC - Wavy Tube Man (Gunstringer)
- DLC - Adam the Clown (Dead Rising)
- DLC - Raven Swarm (Alan Wake)
- DLC - DJ Professor K (Jet Set Radio)
- Comic book style character endings added to Arcade Mode
- Adventure Mode is somewhere between Melee & Subspace leaning on the Melee Side. Bosses are the below.
- Gravemind (Halo)
- Eyedol (Killer Instinct)
- Mr. Patch (Banjo Kazooie)
- Ragnarok (Mech Assault)
- All Co-op Modes & Leaderboards available online as a big selling point.
- Most modes from Brawl are here
- No Chronicle or Masterpieces (although Minesweeper is a secret unlockable mini-game)
- Stage Builder is added as a free update with more options than Brawl.
- New Items with a variety of different effects including Portal Gun & Weighted Companion Cube
Cuts
- Brutus
- Cooper
- Vince
- Sparrow
- Glados
- Ayane
Bold = Newcomer
- Dashboard (Xbox)
- Dashboard 360
- Dashboard One
- Halo (Halo)
- ARK Citadel
- Blood Gultch
- High Charity
- New Mombasa
- Jacinto Prison (Gears)
- Anvil Gate
- Hourglass Caves (Blinx)
- Bowerstone (Fable)
- Bowerstone II
- Bowerstone III
- Tatteres Spire
- City of Troy (Age of Empires/Mythologies)
- Washington DC
- Devour Village (Blue Dragon)
- Pacific City (Crackdown)
- Old West Theatre (Gunstringer)
- Forza Circuit (Forza)
- Castelletto
- The End (Minecraft)
- Ginso Tree (Ori)
- Treasure Trove Cove (Banjo Kazooie)
- Banjoland
- Poo Mountain (Conker)
- Area 51 (Perfect Dark)
- Turbo Tunnel (Battletoads)
- Enchanted Kingdom (Kameo)
- Garden (Viva Pinata)
- UltraTech Museum (Killer Instinct)
- Rare Replay Gallery (Rare)
- Flight Simulator (Microsoft Flight Simulator)
- Minesweeper (Minesweeper)
- Bliss (Windows)
- The Ruins (Phantom Dust)
- Chip's Challenge (Chip's Challenge)
- Zoo Tycoon (Zoo Tycoon)
- Fuzion Frenzy (Fuzion Frenzy)
- Cauldron Lake Lodge (Alan Wake)
- Haybusa Village (Ninja Gaiden)
- Sky City Tokyo (Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive)
- GFO Oil Rig (Splinter Cell)
- Soulstorm Brewery (Oddworld)
- Rapture (Bioshock)
- Columbia
- Willamette Parkview Mall (Dead Rising)
- 99th Street (Jet Set Radio)
- Prophet's Tomb (Tomb Raider)
- Salt Factory (Super Meat Boy)
- Bomberman Arena (Bomberman)
- Akihabara (Steins Gate)
- Milkman Conspiracy (Psychonauts)
- Endless Paths (Pillars of Eternity)
- Wondertown Land (Sunset Overdrive)
- Kadingir Sanctum (Doom)
- Inkwell Hell Casino (Cuphead)
- Citadel (Mass Effect)
- Naval Warfare (Sea of Thieves)
- Watchpoint Gibraltar (Overwatch)
- Ferix
- Ghoulhaven Hall
- New Orleans Square
- Aperture Test Chamber
Bold = Newcomer
- Grunt (Halo)
- Noble Five/Jorge-052
- Klungo (Banjo Kazooie)
- Bottles
- Berri (Conker)
- Kantus (Gears of War)
- Reaver (Fable)
- Zeus (Age of Empires/Mythology)
- Maromaru (Blue Dragon)
- Elvis (Perfect Dark)
- Professor Pestor (Viva Pinata)
- Kalus (Kameo)
- Sabrewulf (Killer Instinct/Sabre Wulf)
- Hisako (Killer Instinct)
- Tom Tom Gang (Blinx)
- Naru (Ori)
- Creeper (Minecraft)
- Rachel (Ninja Gaiden)
- Zack (Dead or Alive)
- Anna Grímsdóttir (Splinter Cell)
- Munch (Oddworld)
- Rabbid (Rayman/Rabbids)
- Medic (Team Fortress)
- Bomb Jack (Bomb Jack)
- Toof (Whacked)
- Hexic Cluster (Hexic)
- Dr. Baltazar Chernenko(Crackdown)
- Little Sister (Bioshock)
- Wavy Tube Man (Gunstringer)
- Adam the Clown (Dead Rising)
- Raven Swarm (Alan Wake)
- DJ Professor K (Jet Set Radio)
- Sam Nishimura (Tomb Raider)
- Dr. Fetus (Super Meat Boy)
- Louie (Bomberman)
- Suzuha Amane (Steins Gate)
- Milla Vodello (Psychonauts)
- Aloth Corfiser (Pillars of Eternity)
- Splosion Man (Splosion Man)
- Fizzle (Sunset Overdrive)
- Max Payne (Max Payne)
- Outrunners (Outrun)
- Captain Smiley (Comic Jumper)
- Cacodemon (DOOM)
- King Dice (Cuphead)
- Urdnot Wrex (Mass Effect)
- Pirate Lord (Sea of Thieves)
- Mercy (Overwatch)
- Theresa
- Dark Queen
- Jetman
- Crawdad Jimmy
- Ghouly Amber
- Flint
- Chell
- Medic
- Tank
- New Items include but not limited to (click link to see more details provided by KneeOfJustice99 or darkvortex)
- Adventure Mode is back & will continue to be a mix of Subspace & Melee, may have a little more of a focus on the narrative this time around.
- Narrative Details
- Clippy does not appear, villain characters will work with bosses initially like Subspace
- Will feature a Chapter structure which will include the linked concepts by KneeOfJustice99 & darkvortex
- Chapter 2
- Chapter 3
- Othet story moments included after Chapter descriptions, too much info to squeeze into OP but some cool ideas definitely worth a read.
- 4 New Bosses Added (see below), Boss Rush mode will return & be more heavily promoted.
- Queen Myrrah (Gears)
- Ender Dragon (Minecraft)
- Lu Bu (Musou/Warriors)
- Dragon Jack (Fable)
- Narrative Details
- Comic Book Style Arcade/Classic endings will be replaced by CG Cutscenes
- Target Smash will be back & Stage Builder will be in base game with mild new content & improvements.
- Smash Run, Tour, & Custom Moves will not be a part of the game. 8-Player battles & other smaller Smash 4 additions will be added.
- Instead of the above cuts, our big selling point from Smash 4 will be a Tag Team Mode available in battles with 4 or less players & Character Interactions which will primarily be featured in the Results screen.
Everyone is Here
Fighter Pass 2 (2023-present)
Fighter Pass 2 (2023-present)
- Chai (Hi Fi Rush)
- Jonesy (Fortnite)
- Ezio (Assassins Creed)
- Lilith (Diablo)
- Lilith (Borderlands)
- Raven (Star Wars)
Everywhere is Here
66 - Bridge to Helheim (Hellblade)
67 - Dragonsreach (Elder Scrolls)
68 - Dunwall Whiskey Distillery (Dishonored)
69 - Dustbowl (Team Fortress)
70 - Black Mesa (Half Life)
71 - Warp Room (Crash Bandicoot)
72 - Rook Islands (Far Cry)
73 - Oldest House (Control)
Fighter Pass 1 (2022-2023)
66 - Bridge to Helheim (Hellblade)
67 - Dragonsreach (Elder Scrolls)
68 - Dunwall Whiskey Distillery (Dishonored)
69 - Dustbowl (Team Fortress)
70 - Black Mesa (Half Life)
71 - Warp Room (Crash Bandicoot)
72 - Rook Islands (Far Cry)
73 - Oldest House (Control)
Fighter Pass 1 (2022-2023)
- Millennium Tower (Yakuza/Like A Dragon)
- Piltover (League of Legends)
- City of Glass (Mirriors Edge)
- Avalar (Spyro)
- Vault (Fallout)
- Vandelay R&D (Hi Fi Rush)
- Battlebus Tour (Fortnite)
- Venice Rooftops (Assassins Creed)
- Liliths Altar (Diablo)
- Moxxis (Borderlands)
- Placeholder (Star Wars)
Everyone is Here
58 - Valravn (Hellblade)
59 - Dagoth Ur (Elder Scrolls)
60 - Lady Boyle (Dishonored)
61 - Alyx Vance (Half Life)
62 - Dingodile (Crash Bandicoot)
Fighter Pass 1 (2022-2023)
58 - Valravn (Hellblade)
59 - Dagoth Ur (Elder Scrolls)
60 - Lady Boyle (Dishonored)
61 - Alyx Vance (Half Life)
62 - Dingodile (Crash Bandicoot)
Fighter Pass 1 (2022-2023)
- Kiryu Kazuma (Yakuza/Like A Dragon)
- Vi (League of Legends)
- Isabella Krueger (Mirriors Edge)
- Hunter (Spyro)
- Encave Soldier (Fallout)
- Korsica (Hi Fi Rush)
- Meowscles(Fortnite)
- Eivor (Assassins Creed)
- Elias (Diablo)
- Tiny Tina (Borderlands)
- Placeholder (Star Wars)
- Everything is Here, Smash had Everyone but Xbox is going the extra mile to get all previous content back after Smash came up barely short in several categories.
- This includes Assists who got promoted (Theresa, Dark Queen, & Jetman) having their assist return but will be blocked if the fighter iteration is chosen.
- A big returning mode is 360s Adventure Mode however it is not all available at launch with free updates completing the mode later now.
- All Arcade Mode endings are available too. Treated similar to Palutenas Guidance/Snake Codecs with new fighters (& future dlc in our case) getting the newer CG endings & only characters from the earlier games having their comic book style endings.
- Custom moves return however due to a competitive scene ban their is notably less effort towards balancing them.
- Due to a focus on returning content, new content is more limited especially in this category. However boss rush does get a new final boss & secret final boss (by clearing so quickly with higher difficulties giving you more time)
- Diablo
- The Devil (Cuphead)(Secret)
- A few new items are added
- Nothing nominated but feel free to share any ideas at any time.
We will try to match Smash in terms of content, although we will be playing catchup but will hopefully close that gap with 360 DLC. We will be focusing on the Roster, Stages, & Assists. We will also talk about Modes & Items but how much will depend on general interest. Submittions will always be open if anyone wants to dive further into specifics with movesets, alts, music, etc. for entries they like but there is currently no intent to have dedicated jobs for these topics. Thread will normally be updated every weekday within approximately 24 hrs.
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