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Winning With Sass - Zelda Tournament Results

Zylach

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The Construct 34 Smash 4 Singles (Offline)
10/25/15
7th/39 entrants
Used: :4zelda::rosalina:
Bracket: http://ehgaming.challonge.com/c34s4s

The Construct 34 Smash 4 Doubles (Offline)
10/25/15
1st/9 teams
Used: :4zelda::rosalina: (Teammate used :4ganondorf::4falco:)
Bracket: http://ehgaming.challonge.com/c34s4d

Notes: So, I ended up doing more work with Zelda this tourney than Rosa. I used Zelda in grands for doubles which lasted 9 games. Lost to a ROB in winners of singles bracket and a Yoshi in loser's. Zelda vs. ROB and Rosa vs. Yoshi. Turns out Rosa has a less manageable MU against Yoshi than I thought so I screwed up in that respect and should've used Zelda as I've beaten that same guy with Zelda 2-0 before. Oh well, growing pains.
 

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Kings of the North 4 Smash 4 Singles (Offline)
11/21-22/15
25th/122 entrants
Used: :4zelda: Only
Bracket of Top 64: http://kotn4.challonge.com/s4_top64

Notes: My attempt at using high tiers has been a failure and I am returning to Zelda exclusively. I've gotten better with her anyway so who needs Rosa?
 
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Dee-SmashinBoss

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Kings of the North 4 Smash 4 Singles (Offline)
11/21-22/15
25th/122 entrants
Used: :4zelda: Only
Bracket of Top 64: http://kotn4.challonge.com/s4_top64

Notes: My attempt at using high tiers has been a failure and I am returning to Zelda exclusively. I've gotten better with her anyway so who needs Rosa?
Sorry for the troubles and random question but....
If you had anything to say to those who think Zelda is poorly designed and/or her only saving grace is UpB, what would it be?
I'd like to copy and paste it whenever someone makes a post about her that seems rather......ignorant I guess?
 

Zylach

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Sorry for the troubles and random question but....
If you had anything to say to those who think Zelda is poorly designed and/or her only saving grace is UpB, what would it be?
I'd like to copy and paste it whenever someone makes a post about her that seems rather......ignorant I guess?
I mean, at her heart, Zelda is poorly designed. I'll agree on that front because of one thing: She was designed as half a character back in melee. She was the killing counterpart to the Zelda/Sheik combo. What ruined everything in melee was the fact that Sheik was perfectly fine with killing and also better at combos (Like she was designed to be), faster, etc. When it came to brawl, they ruined Sheik by basically taking combos out of the equation altogether and the idea of playing "Sheilda" was made truer to its design since, if you check most brawl tier lists, they'll have "Sheilda" listed above solo Sheik and solo Zelda. When it came to designing her as her own character while also staying true to her character design from previous installments, the dev team didn't do a great job because she kept more of her killer attributes and didn't get enough in return to make her fit her new archetype of glass cannon rather than "kill half."

That said, anyone that thinks Zelda's only tool is FW knows nothing about Zelda. She did get stuff in the split from Sheik albeit not enough. She's got true combos like dtilt>jab>DA, dtilt>Lkick, dtilt>nair, nair>nair on a lot of characters, nair>Lkick on some characters, and many more. Those combos, btw, do a ton of damage. 23% from dtilt>jab>DA. She's got disjoints in fsmash (which is fairly safe on shield if spaced properly), jab, ftilt, nair. She's got kill confirms like landing nair, dtilt which can lead to Lkicks, and unteched dair. She's got phantom as a spacing tool as long as it's used correctly (fade-away phantom, wavebounce phantom, b-reverse phantom). Her offstage game is impeccable. She'll pressure you while you're offstage with din's and phantom then go off for nairs and dairs to try and gimp or meteor smash you. Then, she'll get back to the stage almost no matter how deep she goes. She isn't even combo'd as easily as a lot of other characters because she's light and has Nayru's Love. Having frame 5 intangibility is a better option than a lot of characters have for getting out of combos. Plus, while she is juggled easily, she still has some interesting options for landing like airdodge>Nayru's Love that can often trick opponents into thinking they can punish her landing and she can b-reverse Nayru's Love as well as phantom. She can also wavebounce phantom for added efficacy. Given all that and the fact that you can die at 70% against her, there's no reason to claim that she only has one option.
 

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Hi, I'mma drop this here real quick:
STG Super Smash Bros Tournament #1 (Offline)
11/21/15
3rd/15
http://challonge.com/STG_SSBT1_WiiU
Used: Mostly :4zelda:, had to pull out :4zss: later in bracket

Small Philly local that seriously wasn't stacked, but I'm super glad I got to use zelda as much as I did. I wish I could solo main the girl, but some of her flaws and bad matchups keep me from from using her confidently in a tournament setting, even though she might be my best character when I play friendlies. Maybe I'll just go all zelda next time to see what happens.
 

Cress!

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Yay first results of the new year
3rd place using :4zelda: only. Only 9 people total but I'd rather not use Zelda when there's more people. Because I'd rather have a chance at winning.
http://challonge.com/TBTMonthly9
 

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Construct 38 Smash 4 Singles
1/10/16
4th/53

Second offline tourney. I did pretty well. I think I may have been able to take third, but I don't know MK well and made the mistake of CPing T&C to him. Oops. Overall, great tourney.

Not sure if doubles count, but I'll post it here anyway.

Construct 38 Smash 4 Doubles
1/10/16
1st/13

Huge thank you to Marshall for asking me to team with him! We totally sweeped the bracket.

Also, huge thank you to Adrian for driving me to this tourney!

Edit: FORGOT THE LINKS. AGAIN.
http://ehgaming.challonge.com/c38s4s <- Singles
http://ehgaming.challonge.com/c38s4d <- Doubles
 
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Offstage 12 Smash 4 Singles
2/6/16
3rd/32
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http://challonge.com/2tdw5i8c
Used all :4zelda: and tried :4bayonetta: once against :4diddy: (this did not go so well)

I'll be the first to admit here that my high placing can be attributed to the change in our final smash :secretkpop:
I beat that Meta Knight in winner's, but he beat me in loser's finals bc MK sux and having no bans makes him even more sucky
As for the other loses, Diddy is just hard. I'll be working on that one.

Offstage 12 Smash 4 Doubles
2/6/16
1st/11
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http://challonge.com/p33hl2wf

Teamed with Marshall again and did amazing again.
I used :4zelda: and my partner used :4bayonetta: and :4diddy:.
Bayonetta is srsly so great for us. In one game she got witch time and did a full charge f smash and i swooped in and landed a sweetspot f air before witch time ended on the same enemy. Needless to say they got bodied :secretkpop:
 
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Zelda's better than most people give her credit for. Unfortunately most lack the capacity to think of her as anything other than the worse half of Sheik. She is much more reliable now, than in Melee, she has her own combos, and she doesn't need speed to do it. Zelda is a different kind of character, and needs to be played calmly, and with a clear head. Not with random button mashing, and throwing out moves everywhere. If you do throw out moves like you do with characters like Sheik, you WILL die. Openings between her moves are usually too easy to spot for that kind of play. Start from a distance, and work your way in. Then slowly distance yourself more, and then go back in. If you follow this pattern, you never panic, and you actually KNOW the character, you'll be FINE.
 

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Tales of Jank Smash 4 Singles
2/27/16
2nd/46
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http://talesofjank.challonge.com/smash4singles

Only used :4zelda:

Sweeped through bracket again. Luckily, the people I struggle the most against got taken out by people I can beat fairly well. Ultimately lost to Marshall again because Diddy is an abomination and should be removed from the series.

Shout-out to the person whose pizza I stole :secretkpop:

Tales of Jank Smash 4 Doubles
2/27/16
1st/19
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http://talesofjank.challonge.com/Smash4Doubles

Only used :4zelda:, partner used :4rob:
Teamed with Otis this time. We're the first team from Wisconsin that actually beat Marshall and Zander in bracket. It was super close and ultimately was won by me getting a hard punish on Diddy. Wanted the replay, but I'll never get it. Anyway, Rob's a pretty good teammate for us.
 

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First time being in a tournament with pools so I'll post both top 32 and pools I guess

UMN March Monthly Singles
3/26/2016
9th/120
http://umnsmash.challonge.com/MarMonthS4Pools
http://umnsmash.challonge.com/MarMonthS4Top32
Used only :4zelda:

First time being out of state ever in my life and also first out of state tournament.
Also first tournament with over 100 people.
I think I did pretty well considering I beat a few of their PR and lost to their #1 and former #1.
MN is really well known for their obscure match ups.
Overall this tournament was really hard, partly because I was living off of twizzlers throughout the entire day :secretkpop:
 

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Alright, momentum has been continuing for now!

VS weekly
3/31/16
5th/95
http://versus.challonge.com/s4_033116

100% :4zelda:

Many videos will be on the way. I got whacked my MVD. Nick Riddle was a close loss as well. Grrrr.
So are you going full Zelda from now on, or are you still seconding Sheik? Regardless, thanks for not giving up on her! I never saw much if your early Smash 4 Zelda so I thought we lost another player for a while, lol. Or maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough.

The Sheilda dream must live on!
 

#HBC | Scary

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Rickster Rickster for now yea. I have Sheik on the bench just because I was becoming super stressed out by using her. Not being able to kill at all before the patch, and then arbitrary weight nerfs creating a nigh impossible need for no mistakes created an incredibly toxic mindset for me. Zelda is my remedy for Sheik and my mindset. At some point or another Sheik will be back but right now it's all Zelda, running therapy for me.
 

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It's awesome to have you still repping Zelda, Ed. Your power with ha will end up getting her nerfed for looking broken!

But srsly 5th/95 with solo Zelda where known names were present too.

Zelda is my remedy for Sheik
brb saving this cut :secretkpop:
 
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Alacion

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Good job Ed. Grats on having the only notable results for Zelda this whole year.
 

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Can you ride his **** any harder?

Wisconsin is irrelevant lol

Placing in a free region isn't notable
 
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Can you ride his **** any harder?

Wisconsin is irrelevant lol

Placing in a free region isn't notable
Macchi was talking about MN. Though Zolda said he placed 9th, not 5th.
 
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Being able to read would help and the basic knowledge of all 50 states. Last time I checked Wisconsin isn't MN but lol okay you do you
Tbh I'm more inclined to agree with Aero, Macchi.

MN doesn't really have as big of a smash scene, and you've been calling Zolda's name from the mountaintops like suddenly he's the Zelda main we've been waiting for and all of his opinions are right. I'd like to see him snaTch wigs at a more major tourney.

Also Zolda can come in here and try to tell me MN has a big smash scene if he disagrees.
 

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Tbh I'm more inclined to agree with Aero, Macchi.

MN doesn't really have as big of a smash scene, and you've been calling Zolda's name from the mountaintops like suddenly he's the Zelda main we've been waiting for and all of his opinions are right. I'd like to see him snaTch wigs at a more major tourney.

Also Zolda can come in here and try to tell me MN has a big smash scene if he disagrees.
tbh idk & idc
 

Aunt Jemima

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people just play this game for fun, there's no reason to nitpick about scenes tbh

Zolda isn't gonna go fly out to some other state just to play the game, lol

there's no reason to get all pissed at Zolda just for something Macchi said that seems to have been taken out of context in the first place
 

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Today was a rough day in the office. Really bad. The entire PR was in attendance. That and I lost to an improving Bayonetta..... *sob*

TGL 4 EVO Qualifier
25th/65
100% :4zelda:
http://challonge.com/tglmonthly4smash4singles
Don't worry bayonetta is getting nerfed for sure next patch lol Did you see bayo's Fair 1 and Witch Twist jank hitboxes?

Huh, I guess this isn't "notable" enough to add to your notable tournament results on your wiki...unless you still want to add it.
 
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#HBC | Scary

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KlicKlac KlicKlac , not too concerned about a nerf though it would be welcomed I'm sure. The MU is hysterically skewed for Bayo and Zelda has to turtle so hard and look for early kills otherwise there's no way to keep up.

Also, witch twist is the only move in the game I've yet to Dair. I've outright Daired through Cloud's Upair but NEVERTHELESS witch twist. That's big.

I imagine me taking a thrashing was overdue. Was getting too many good results lol. Just gotta keep rebuilding the great, brawl mindset.
 
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