Arcane_
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Any advice for a beginner to deal with falco in neutral? I can punish him well but I struggle to do what I usually do in neutral against Falco. How do I deal with his lasers and get in safely?
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Winning Neutral Against Falco
- Thread starter Arcane_
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Two easy things that work pretty well as marth:
Waveland onto sideplatform to avoid laser, then wait for them to approach and then fall through platform with fair or run off fair.
Full jump or shorthop->double jump at a good time, then threated with aerials and mix up your fast fall timings and drifts in the air.
Just playing around platforms and full jumps like that can give you simple and meaningful mixup options. The more difficult solution is to learn to wavedash out of shield after the laser. It's not always the right option of course, but it gives you many more options, since you can threaten with stuff like wavedash -> tilt or wavedash -> rising aerial right after the laser hits. Or you wavedash back to catch their overshot aerial. Once you get fast at it, you can stop a lot of braindead falco approaches like their laser -> rising aerial with wavedash ->uptilt or wavedash -> dash away ->grab.
Waveland onto sideplatform to avoid laser, then wait for them to approach and then fall through platform with fair or run off fair.
Full jump or shorthop->double jump at a good time, then threated with aerials and mix up your fast fall timings and drifts in the air.
Just playing around platforms and full jumps like that can give you simple and meaningful mixup options. The more difficult solution is to learn to wavedash out of shield after the laser. It's not always the right option of course, but it gives you many more options, since you can threaten with stuff like wavedash -> tilt or wavedash -> rising aerial right after the laser hits. Or you wavedash back to catch their overshot aerial. Once you get fast at it, you can stop a lot of braindead falco approaches like their laser -> rising aerial with wavedash ->uptilt or wavedash -> dash away ->grab.
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dash dtilt and dsmash go under high lasers
mod a trigger to be hard press only for easy powershields. helps with everything including Falco lasers and bad dairs etc. gotta be good at wavedashes out of shield instantly for this to be effective
acting quickly after eating a laser is basically a less powerful powershield
Falco murders marth in the air so don't let him force you up there unless you really need a break from the pressure. let him play his game just beat him at it
mod a trigger to be hard press only for easy powershields. helps with everything including Falco lasers and bad dairs etc. gotta be good at wavedashes out of shield instantly for this to be effective
acting quickly after eating a laser is basically a less powerful powershield
Falco murders marth in the air so don't let him force you up there unless you really need a break from the pressure. let him play his game just beat him at it