Why two weeks?

[M.K]

You're complaining about waiting 2 weeks? You must be one of those people that are mad the Dojo isn't giving us updates this week.

I'm glad we're getting this game at all, since there are plenty of Japanese games that never hit American shores. And 2 weeks is nothing. Europe's launch date hasn't even been announced, and Australia and South America are just plain screwed.

Besides, you do realize that they have to do s\Snake's codec conversations, Sonic, and anybody else that talks? Then there are the probably 300+ trophies we'll be seeing, as well as the menus and everything. Most of that stuff is already done anyway.

If anything, I always thought Japan got it first because since they made it, they deserve to play it before us.

Grow up.

Oh lord,. I mean that not to be rude, but the fact that he is undermined for an accusation that you can prove neither false or true is blastphamy. We shouldn't be glad we are getting the game, because that's an obvious blatent given. I mean, why the hell wouldn't they give it to us? This isn't some low rate game that somehow turned out to be good, this probably is Nintendo's most fan-servicy game ever (excuse the atrocious language).

Other than that, I agree with everything you said in the last two paragraphs.

 

[T.U.C.]

for 1 (not japanese) language nintedo takes 17 days (u.s.).
so.... for 5 languages (eu) nintendo will take 85 days. that will mean that the eu release will be 19 april

 

[OrlanduEX]

You're complaining about waiting 2 weeks? You must be one of those people that are mad the Dojo isn't giving us updates this week.

I'm glad we're getting this game at all, since there are plenty of Japanese games that never hit American shores. And 2 weeks is nothing. Europe's launch date hasn't even been announced, and Australia and South America are just plain screwed.

Besides, you do realize that they have to do s\Snake's codec conversations, Sonic, and anybody else that talks? Then there are the probably 300+ trophies we'll be seeing, as well as the menus and everything. Most of that stuff is already done anyway.

If anything, I always thought Japan got it first because since they made it, they deserve to play it before us.

Grow up.

We don't have to be glad were getting Brawl because it is a given. America is the biggest gaming market in the world, far bigger than Japan. NOT releasing here would be like chopping off your own arm.
Besides that, I wholeheartedly agree that we should just wait patiently for Brawl and let Nintendo do their thing. Also, in 23 days, all our questions will be answered when Brawl drops in Japan, so the 2 following weeks will breeze by.

 

[KingKraken]

Yes, translating is a large part of developing a game, but then there is the fact that you have to re-program the entire game to be able to fit everything in that language into the game. It's actually a long process.

 

[Johnknight1]

It's because Nintendo is f***ing retarted, that is why. If Nintendo was smart, or cared about their customers, the game would come out in late March, and Australia, North and South America, Europe, and Japan would get it on the same day, and everyone would be happy. They got all the voicing down, but Nintendo is simply put retarted. Prove me otherwise...why else is EUROPE AT EARLIEST GETTING THE GAME IN JULY, AND AUSTRALIA WILL BE LUCKY TO GET THE GAME IN 2008! It's because Nintendo is f***ing lame, and wish they were as awsome as Kojima and Koonami.

Anyone who doesn't prefer the "everyone gets the game at the same time" plan is selfish and retarted. Nintendo's release date policy is so f***ing messed, and they show their overbiasedness for Japan too much. Kojima pwns their a**es every day of his life. Yes, Kojima is GODLY, and actually cares about his international fans. Ya, a delay wouldn't bug me if it was so European and Australian smashers got Brawl earlier. Nintendo on release dates and localizing games (MOTHER 3)=failure. Nintendo fails just for that.

EditL I'm not complaining about waiting two weeks. I'm complaing about Europe's and Australia's 5 month MINIMUM WAIT! That is just soooo retarted, it's not even funny. Kojima alone > All of Nintendo.

 

[Santini]

Well, they can only print so many game disks at once. So instead of printing both versions at the same time, they're probably goint to print all of the Japanese disks at once, and then print all of the American disks once they're done. But since the Japanese ones are already ready, they mine as well start selling those while the American ones are being produced.

 

[Masterem243]

It's because Nintendo is f***ing retarted, that is why. If Nintendo was smart, or cared about their customers, the game would come out in late March, and Australia, North and South America, Europe, and Japan would get it on the same day, and everyone would be happy. They got all the voicing down, but Nintendo is simply put retarted. Prove me otherwise...why else is EUROPE AT EARLIEST GETTING THE GAME IN JULY, AND AUSTRALIA WILL BE LUCKY TO GET THE GAME IN 2008! It's because Nintendo is f***ing lame, and wish they were as awsome as Kojima and Koonami.

Anyone who doesn't prefer the "everyone gets the game at the same time" plan is selfish and retarted. Nintendo's release date policy is so f***ing messed, and they show their overbiasedness for Japan too much. Kojima pwns their a**es every day of his life. Yes, Kojima is GODLY, and actually cares about his international fans. Ya, a delay wouldn't bug me if it was so European and Australian smashers got Brawl earlier. Nintendo on release dates and localizing games (MOTHER 3)=failure. Nintendo fails just for that.

EditL I'm not complaining about waiting two weeks. I'm complaing about Europe's and Australia's 5 month MINIMUM WAIT! That is just soooo retarted, it's not even funny. Kojima alone > All of Nintendo.

Are they really? Think about all the other games. some games take 10 years to make, and they're not all that memorable. Give it time. Besides, I don't think Sony or Microsoft games are any quicker to get to other countries.

 

[raymanbud714]

I'm sorry but i don't think you should be complaining... its only a few more weeks... i mean... Europe gets it like usually 3 to 6 months after the japanese release date...

 

[Johnknight1]

Are they really? Think about all the other games. some games take 10 years to make, and they're not all that memorable. Give it time. Besides, I don't think Sony or Microsoft games are any quicker to get to other countries.

Sony does it better. Think about it:

-Japan gets Brawl on January 23rd, 2008.
-North and South America get Brawl on Febuary 10th, 2008.
-Europe gets Brawl AT EARLIEST Q3 2008. That means the earliest they get Brawl is July (1st), 2008.
-Austrlia will be luck to get the game in 2008.

If that's not f***ing ridiculous, I don't know what is. C'mon, Sony does it WAYYYYY BETTER! They'll soon be printing Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots discs to all of those places at the same time. Microsoft had Halo 3 in Europe after the Americas within a week. The fact is Nintendo is a failure with release dates. Honestly, how far away is Australia to Japan=??? It's closer then America. At least the UK and other English speaking countries should get Brawl at the same time as the American release date. So my point ins MICROSOFT AND SONY PWN NINTENDO WITH WORLDWIDE RELEASE DATES!

Counter me that. Sony and Microsoft are definitely more friendly to Europe and probably Australia then Nintendo will ever be at this point. The only game Europe and Australia got early ws Super Mario Strikers Charged. Other then that, they've been screwed over.

 

[OrlanduEX]

It's because Nintendo is f***ing retarted, that is why. If Nintendo was smart, or cared about their customers, the game would come out in late March, and Australia, North and South America, Europe, and Japan would get it on the same day, and everyone would be happy. They got all the voicing down, but Nintendo is simply put retarted. Prove me otherwise...why else is EUROPE AT EARLIEST GETTING THE GAME IN JULY, AND AUSTRALIA WILL BE LUCKY TO GET THE GAME IN 2008! It's because Nintendo is f***ing lame, and wish they were as awsome as Kojima and Koonami.

Anyone who doesn't prefer the "everyone gets the game at the same time" plan is selfish and retarted. Nintendo's release date policy is so f***ing messed, and they show their overbiasedness for Japan too much. Kojima pwns their a**es every day of his life. Yes, Kojima is GODLY, and actually cares about his international fans. Ya, a delay wouldn't bug me if it was so European and Australian smashers got Brawl earlier. Nintendo on release dates and localizing games (MOTHER 3)=failure. Nintendo fails just for that.

EditL I'm not complaining about waiting two weeks. I'm complaing about Europe's and Australia's 5 month MINIMUM WAIT! That is just soooo retarted, it's not even funny. Kojima alone > All of Nintendo.

I agree that releasing games everywhere at once is more "fair", but in the business world there is no room for fairness. If the Japanese version of Brawl is finished first (which it undoubtedly will be), why SHOULDN'T Nintendo release it as soon as possible to start covering the development costs and make a profit? I think North America gets it next because it is the biggest video game market and because the game only needs to be translated into one language. However, for Europe, the translation process takes CONSIDERABLY longer. Also, the game has to be approved by the government/ rating board of many different countries. In America, the ESRB handles the game straight away, but many games are banned/censored in individual European countries for various reasons.

Personally though, I don't see why Australia and England have to wait so long. Those countries both speak English, so why not give them the English version that we get? Yea I know England is Europe, but still.

 

[Masterem243]

I'm not familiar with European release dates, so I can't provide a great argument. But Nintendo is the best of the 3 companies, delays or not.

 

[FSLMJM]

Sony does it better. Think about it:

-Japan gets Brawl on January 23rd, 2008.
-North and South America get Brawl on Febuary 10th, 2008.
-Europe gets Brawl AT EARLIEST Q3 2008. That means the earliest they get Brawl is July (1st), 2008.
-Austrlia will be luck to get the game in 2008.

If that's not f***ing ridiculous, I don't know what is. C'mon, Sony does it WAYYYYY BETTER! They'll soon be printing Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots discs to all of those places at the same time. Microsoft had Halo 3 in Europe after the Americas within a week. The fact is Nintendo is a failure with release dates. Honestly, how far away is Australia to Japan=??? It's closer then America. At least the UK and other English speaking countries should get Brawl at the same time as the American release date. So my point ins MICROSOFT AND SONY PWN NINTENDO WITH WORLDWIDE RELEASE DATES!

Counter me that. Sony and Microsoft are definitely more friendly to Europe and probably Australia then Nintendo will ever be at this point. The only game Europe and Australia got early ws Super Mario Strikers Charged. Other then that, they've been screwed over.

QFT, I don't see why the release dates have to be so far apart from each other in different countries if the game is already done. It doesn't make sense to me.

 

[darkhamsterlord]

QFT, I don't see why the release dates have to be so far apart from each other in different countries if the game is already done. It doesn't make sense to me.

That's because it's NOT done.

Translation isn't simply changing text from japanese to english, and into other languages. You have to change the coding of the game, or else it won't work right.

Plus, it takes longer to change the region coding.

If it's ready to be released in one country, they should release it immediately, in order to get money back ASAP.

I know some people that live in Europe, and I feel for them, and thier late release dates, but it's just bad business to hold a game back until it's ready everywhere.

 

[Mic_128]

2 weeks? Oh boo frekaing hoo. Moce to australia then feel free to ***** about releae dates. 2 weeks? You're complaining about ONLY having to wait 2 weeks?

 

[Johnknight1]

I agree that releasing games everywhere at once is more "fair", but in the business world there is no room for fairness. If the Japanese version of Brawl is finished first (which it undoubtedly will be), why SHOULDN'T Nintendo release it as soon as possible to start covering the development costs and make a profit? I think North America gets it next because it is the biggest video game market and because the game only needs to be translated into one language. However, for Europe, the translation process takes CONSIDERABLY longer. Also, the game has to be approved by the government/ rating board of many different countries. In America, the ESRB handles the game straight away, but many games are banned/censored in individual European countries for various reasons.

Personally though, I don't see why Australia and England have to wait so long. Those countries both speak English, so why not give them the English version that we get? Yea I know England is Europe, but still.

Fans and Customers > Business. Honestly, how hard is it to release the game in AT LEAST the English European countries, like the UK=??? It doesn't have to come out on the same day, but c'mon. A month at most. And if focusing on releasing it everywhere instead of just Japan is bad business, then how come Microsoft and Sony TOTALLY PWNED THE F*** OUT OF NINTENDO LAST GENERATION OF GAMING BY DOING SO WITH THEIR BIG GAMES=??? Not just did Nintendo fail last gen, they hardly made any progress. If anything, they lost ground, aside from smash. And you know what=??? They're stuck in last generation.

Nintendo shouldn't focus soley on the US or Japan-they should focus GLOBALLY! Nintendo is getting OWNED in Europe and Australia, while Nintendo dominates Japan and North and South America. Microsoft is beating then in Australia, and is about even with Nintendo and Sony in Europe. Europe=15% of sales. Japan=15% of sales. North and South America=60% of sales. Australia=10% of sales. Losing one is a terrible mistake.

So overall, this is bad business, and is bad for the fans. Sony and Microsoft get it, while Nintendo obviously doesn't. That is why in many aspects I respect Sony and Microsoft more. Heck, I don't even actually care which console wins this generation...well...maybe Wii or 360 just because those are the two I own!

Seriously though, if translating takes so long, then how come Halo 3 came out in Australia and ALL OF EUROPE IN A F***ING WEEK AFTER THE AMERICAS=??? POINT PWNED!

@ Mic
QFT.

 

[zurf23]

I guess you can say the japanese consumers are like guinea pigs. Like with many Kirby games and Pokemon too, if there's any bugs they can fix it quickly before the American release. The two games are being translated at the same time if you haven't noticed. In fact in many different languages. The translations is not the issue.

 

[Mysteryfox1]

OH NO two whole weeks!!! you have at least a release date the Europians (including me) and Austrialans or something don't have that

 

[NotGiratina]

John Knight,your incessant cursing doesn't exactly make any better,quite frankly it's making you sound like a childish fanboy.T_T

All six or so languages of Europe would just LOOOOOOOOOOOVE to have a word with you,UK english, french ,Spain's spanish, German,Italian,Danish...

And some countries will never have this game localised Such as Poland,Iceland,Egypt,India,and Most Islands of Oceana,Seeing as it would cost possibly Millions to translate them all (Africa has around 800 languages,mind you)

And Nintendo is a business first,the only reason they cater to fans is to ensure purchases of games,this is common sense.

Quite frankly you have no good reason to complain.T_T

 

[JPW]

What do you think about all the trophies, stickers, event match descriptions and all that? There's a lot more to translate than what you say there.

And be glad you don't live in Europe, we probably have to wait even longer!

Thank your lucky stars you don't have to live in Australia. We have to wait even longer just so we can get extra languages that don't even matter in Australia.

I think the main reason as to why Australia and UK have to wait still is Nintendo haven't got it through their thick head yet, that we have have NTSC/PAL compatible TV's. today.

I think it's also because of power voltage....

Australia actually lives on 240V to US 120V or 160V(I keep on fogetting but it's one of those.

And because Aussies only mark for 1/4 on Nintendo's sales, they figure it's best to worry about us last. But if we were given better attention games would sell much better downunder.

After all Nintendo has pretty much had the no.1 spot this year with our charts most of the time. Yet we still get treated like ****.

BUt what I don't get is how come it only takes a month for Super Mario Galaxy, yet we have to wait forever for a game like Fire Emblem or Super Paper Mario. Or even as is stands Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

This is mainly the reason why modding is legal in Australia, but apparently Nintendo doesn't like that....

 

[Magically Enhanced Hobo]

Oh lord,. I mean that not to be rude, but the fact that he is undermined for an accusation that you can prove neither false or true is blastphamy. We shouldn't be glad we are getting the game, because that's an obvious blatent given. I mean, why the hell wouldn't they give it to us? This isn't some low rate game that somehow turned out to be good, this probably is Nintendo's most fan-servicy game ever (excuse the atrocious language).

Other than that, I agree with everything you said in the last two paragraphs.

Well, sorry if I came off as rude as well. I was ticked off at the OP at the time, because complaining about having to wait 2 weeks is ridiculous. What I meant was, we're never seeing Mother 3 over here(not a low rate game), and Fire Emblem and Advance Wars took a -loooong- time to get here, and they still have installations of those we'll never see, etc.

And what I meant by happy to get it at all is that there are plenty of people on these boards from South America, Australia, etc, who are going to either have to import their copy, or wait a looooong time for it to release over there, if it ever does. Bringing it to America is a given, I meant we should be thankful our country has the priority of getting it first(along with Canada) after Japan. Sorry that I wasn't concise enough.

Fans and Customers > Business

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah....(Gasp) aaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha. Sure they are John, sure they are.

 

[shayr1992]

I'm an Australian, you guys are making us sound sooo inferior. Also, we're likely to get it BEFORE Europe, seeing as all recent Nintendo games have been coming out here about a month before Europe. Pokemon, Mario Galaxy, Corruption, etc...

Hey, only one of those games came out for you before us. Pokemon came out less than 3 weeks after Australia in Europe, and all the other games you listed were here first.

 

[falco999]

it's a slap in the face to everyone else outside of japan. they are saying we made this game and we get to play it first.

 

[Xenesis]

Thank your lucky stars you don't have to live in Australia. We have to wait even longer just so we can get extra languages that don't even matter in Australia.

I think the main reason as to why Australia and UK have to wait still is Nintendo haven't got it through their thick head yet, that we have have NTSC/PAL compatible TV's. today.

I know, amazing isn't it. I think it's just because they don't want to manufacture a separate disc for Australia, which would basically be the US Disc with it's region changed - instead they just give us the Europe disc which requires no modification whatsoever.

I think it's also because of power voltage....

Australia actually lives on 240V to US 120V or 160V(I keep on fogetting but it's one of those.

Nope, that makes precisely no difference whatsoever. The power cord does all the voltage conversion of the Wii - it's completely external. If you get a US Wii, fit it with an Australian power cord and plug it into an Australian 240v power socket, it'll work.

This is mainly the reason why modding is legal in Australia, but apparently Nintendo doesn't like that....

Yep. Modding a console to circumvent region lockouts is perfectly legal. Not to mention that selling a region-restricted DVD player in Australia is actually illegal (Basically the High Courts ruled that the sole purpose of DVD region 4 was to stiff Australian consumers with higher prices).

And of course Nintendo doesn't like us circumventing their region lockouts.
Compare:
RRP Australian Wii game: $99.95 AUD
RRP US Wii game: $49.99 USD
=~$60 AUD
RRP Jpn Wii Game: ¥5000-6800
=~$51 - $70

It's the same reason that Valve stopped letting Australian users buy in US Dollars off their Steam service. Basically they want people to pay their extortion of a RRP which everyone knows would basically be half price if we didn't get ***** up the bum by region lockouts.

By not fighting region locks, Nintendo basically stands to lose 30-50% off their RRP price here.

Eg, Nintendo have justified me in never buying a local Nintendo console ever again.

 

[Nezuko]

if you want to get it in 37-38 days get a job at eb games, or best buy or walmart and steal,or buy it early. And trust me the people at eb wont care lol, they will support you, and get it themselves to.

yes.... they'll support you straight to the office of hefty, hefty fees.

Having worked in a store and handling pre-release stuff.. Yes it is very tempting

Eg, Nintendo have justified me in never buying a local Nintendo console ever again.

Business can suck.. just remember that the guys coding the game and putting their hearts and minds into the game are not the bean counters, pullin the jerk moves and all that sort of stuff.

Nobody WANTS there to be a huge delay in release dates... I wouldn't be surprised if the more "world wide" release dates, they were pushed back until everyone was ready, just to say it was world wide. Call me selfish, but sorry Europe i'll take the game in North America when its ready I wish I could say how you feel, but i'd be lying!

 

[Xenesis]

Business can suck.. just remember that the guys coding the game and putting their hearts and minds into the game are not the bean counters, pullin the jerk moves and all that sort of stuff.

Oh, it's not just that. Nintendo of Australia consistently screw over any customer trying to claim any sort of warranty from what I've heard, too.

And that's why I can justify imports. Essentially No Local Service + Ripoff Prices + Massive Delays = Screw you NoAus, I'm importing.

 

[NotGiratina]

I best tear off AUS from my list of places to go.O.O In essense if you're a Nintendo fan in Austrailia you're S****ed

 

[Rhubarbo]

Oh my...it's not the translation people, it's the shipping. The translation is usually completed simulataneously with the Japanese version...

 

[Link_XI]

Why exactly should Nintendo bother releasieng the game at a similar time everywhere? As it has been said before, Nintendo is a buisness and myself and other Europeoons and Australians are still gong to buy the game, regardless of when it comes out. The prophts arn't gong anywhere, why pay extra money for more people to work on it to be done quicker?

 

[Xenesis]

Simultaneous releases tend to work well because the hype for the game is worldwide, rather than limited to one geographical area. Not to mention that those in regions that drew the short straw don't get any feeling of resentment AND it destroys the practicality of importing apart from cost.

Eg, rather than just the Japanese and importers raving about the game on the 24th, it'd be Japan, Europe, Australia, US, New Zealand....etc. etc.

 

[Poisoncomic2]

Just a few thougths on this, I am no expert so take it easy on me. I think production is obviously started in Japanese, right? After the game is complete does translation come into place. Did you ever think that for Sony or Microsoft that they actually delay their games in other countries in order to have a worldwide release? Nintendo, I think, is simply releasing the games as they translate them. If we were to have a worldwide release for Brawl, then I think the game wouldn't be released worldwide till around september of this year.

 

[Falcon1991]

Stop whining!

Europeans like myself have to wait for months and months.

 

[2nd Stamp]

Oh, yes. Voices.

"HAAAH! STRYYYKE! FWAAA!!! AHHHHH!!!"

... This is Nintendo we're talking about.

It's funny how you seem to ignore the points users give you, other then the ones you can make a baseless assumption on.

Although the final version and translation of Brawl is already done, because a game company wouldn't be stupid enough to still leave some translating work for the game 2 weeks near shipping date. I guess it's a marketing thing. Game's made in Japan, Japan gets the goods first. Seems good enough for me. And heck, I'm European, so I'm not having Brawl for a couple of months. (If I hadn't modded my Wii).

 

[SmashChu]

A lot of it has to do with timing. It's when NoA is ready to release it. It could be for numerous reasons. Also, don't forget that they do more then translations. There are other things they may rework as well.

 

[phantomphungus]

Well, lets see...there's trophy's, stickers, the entire game text, and lets not forget that the pacific ocean is the widest ocean in the world, and America and Japan are on complete opposite sides. Think these things through, people!

 

[zurf23]

It's because Nintendo finds it funny how we whine like this when we don't get a game the instant Japan does. I tried putting a more logical reason a page before, but I don't think anyone put that into consideration.

 

[Gilgamesh]

This thread is hauntingly stupid.

 

[user_name]

I really doubt translation is going to be that hard.

Japanese: MARIO!
English: MARIO!
Japanese: -something-
English: READY!?

So why does it take 2 weeks for the Japanese game to come to America?

Think of it.

I think that Japan gets it in... 26 days?
We have to wait 40 days, now!

Don't you see a big difference?

Not complaining. All I wanna know is why it takes a whole extra Buncha days to get from Japan to America.
(At least it wasn't delayed again...)

Trophies.
Production.

Any more questions?

 

[gamer8]

What do you think about all the trophies, stickers, event match descriptions and all that? There's a lot more to translate than what you say there.

And be glad you don't live in Europe, we probably have to wait even longer!

Lol you have to wait till June, that sucks.