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Why Geno in brawl?

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volbound1700

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This is not a flame this is serious discussion... why would Geno be in brawl? He was in one Mario game that wasn't even massively popular...

Why should he be in over lets say

Koopa Trooper

or

Waluigi

or

Tantanga

or

Lakitu

or

the Magikoopa from Yoshi - can't remember his name

or even

Wart
 

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The fact of the matter is (if you could read at all), yes Geno was in one game however he was very important to the one game that he started in. You can't say the same about someone like Waluigi who's just a filler character.

Super Mario RPG was a very popular game. If the game was unpopular/disliked do you really think that the JPN and U.S. would want him included? Let alone show up on the poll.

Here's what you should do. Look up the the word "Main Character" read a book and see if you can find the "Main Character" in that book. Then play Super Mario RPG and see if you can find the "Main Characters" in that game.

Topics like this are annoying, the Geno thread could of been found though simple reading.

-Knight
 

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The fact of the matter is (if you could read at all), yes Geno was in one game however he was very important to the one game that he started in. You can't say the same about someone like Waluigi who's just a filler character.

Super Mario RPG was a very popular game. If the game was unpopular/disliked do you really think that the JPN and U.S. would want him included? Let alone show up on the poll.

Here's what you should do. Look up the the word "Main Character" read a book and see if you can find the "Main Character" in that book. Then play Super Mario RPG and see if you can find the "Main Characters" in that game.

Topics like this are annoying, the Geno thread could of been found though simple reading.

-Knight
lol... nice

as for the thread starter..... smh... had to be a sonic fan:dizzy::dizzy:
 

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I just don't think Geno is that big of a Mario character, that is why he hasn't reappeared since that game. Waluigi is all over the place in the Mario world, even if a filler character.
 

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Might as well say Buzzy Beatle or Boom Boom for brawl or even Mouser because that is about how relevant Geno is along the line with those characters. At least Mouser appeared in the Cartoons though.
 

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This is not a flame this is serious discussion... why would Geno be in brawl? He was in one Mario game that wasn't even massively popular...
Thats debatable.

Why should he be in over lets say

Koopa Trooper
Koopa Trooper is a basic grunt of the Koopa Army, and has no specific story of a character.

Waluigi was designed as a counter to Wario, much like Daisy was to Peach. Geno is his own dependant character.

Geno's has a much richer back-story than Tatanga.

Lakitu is just another grunt of the Koopa army and is a generic character.

the Magikoopa from Yoshi - can't remember his name
The Magikoopa is another grunt of the Koopa Army and is a generic character.

or even

Wart
Who said it had to be one or the other. I'd love to see Wart in another Mario game. SSBB might be an odd place for him to make his 2nd debute, but whatever. :p
 

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I just don't understand why people want Tingle, Skull Kid, or Geno... none of the three are great characters with major roles. They are simple side characters... and no Mario is the main character in Super Mario RPG.

I wish they would go down the line and put major heroes and video game characters even if third party:

Bomberman
Sonic
Simon Belmont
Megaman
Axe Battler
Shinobi
Liu Kang
Sub-Zero

All great video game characters that are the main characters and are far more popular and well published then Geno. The point of Super Smash bros was to get all the Nintendo (now all heroes period) together to duke it out.
 

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You didn't read right, I was refering to a certain MagiKoopa, I just can't remember his name all of a sudden. He is the boss of SMW2 and has appeared in several games after it.

I just don't see the logic in letting in a dumb little puppet. And I have played Super Mario RPG for SNES and it took you through several quests before you even got to GENO.
 

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I just don't understand why people want Tingle, Skull Kid, or Geno... none of the three are great characters with major roles. They are simple side characters... and no Mario is the main character in Super Mario RPG.

I wish they would go down the line and put major heroes and video game characters even if third party:

Bomberman
Sonic
Simon Belmont
Megaman
Axe Battler
Shinobi
Liu Kang
Sub-Zero

All great video game characters that are the main characters and are far more popular and well published then Geno. The point of Super Smash bros was to get all the Nintendo (now all heroes period) together to duke it out.
Why does it have to be main characters?

Are you saying you aren't happy that Luigi, Zelda, Ganondorf, Bowser, Peach, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, & Falco were in Melee?

Plus, you do understand that what you're saying here is opinion based. which you are entitled to, but you must understand that your opinion isn't necessarily the way the majority of the player/fan base feels.
 

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Luigi, Zelda, and Peach have been in about every game in their series...

Apparently Jigglypuff is popular in the tv series... never watched it and Pokemon fans say Mewtwo was one of the top ones as well.

Falco is in every Star Fox game and his attitude stands out.

Majority of fan base on this board... if you go ask average joe they would know the characters I listed but wouldn't have a clue who Geno was.
 

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Honestly this seems like a troll topic, either that or the TC is really clueless/close minded. Judging by what he has said he wants everyone to agree with is opinion; which isn't going to happen. Oh well I really hope this topic get's locked soon.

Also TC maybe if you looked at the Geno thread maybe you could get an idea as to why people want him in the game in the first place.

-Knight
 

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You know what, I am sorry that I am flaming your character though... I wish we could have them all you know.

BTW I don't expect hardly any of those 3rd party characters to make it but I think adding third party was best thing ever for brawl. If Sonic and Megaman where added it would be huge and I think Brawl sales would go up because non-nintendo fans would be interested.
 

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Well I started this thread because I don't want to read through the 1000 posts of the Geno thread, people need to make threads more because it is hard to read threads that have over 1000 posts. I post on ESPN sometimes and they don't do that on ESPN when talking about sports. Could I just have a short, one post summary...

Sorry I am bashing your character, looks like you guys really want them. The real main character that Mario Series is missing is Toad though.

O btw, there is a main Koopa Trooper because he appears in all the Mario Sports games.
 

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You know what, I am sorry that I am flaming your character though... I wish we could have them all you know.

BTW I don't expect hardly any of those 3rd party characters to make it but I think adding third party was best thing ever for brawl. If Sonic and Megaman where added it would be huge and I think Brawl sales would go up because non-nintendo fans would be interested.
:/ yawn this is getting boring TC go look at the Geno thread.

EDIT:

It's really not my fault that you can't read though 1 or 2 pages to get an understanding of an opinon people have of Geno.... If it's that hard perhaps you should get a person to tutor you in order to increase your reading ablitity so you can make it though 2 pages of reading.

-Knight
 

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:/ yawn this is getting boring TC go look at the Geno thread.

EDIT:

It's really not my fault that you can't read though 1 or 2 pages to get an understanding of an opinon people have of Geno.... If it's that hard perhaps you should get a person to tutor you in order to increase your reading ablitity so you can make it though 2 pages of reading.

-Knight
LOL no jerk, I just don't want to waste 5-10 hours reading every post in the Geno thread...
 

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LOL no jerk, I just don't want to waste 5-10 hours reading every post in the Geno thread...
Umm you do understand that you can click on the very first page of the Geno thread correct? See you start at the first page then read the 2nd page. x_x I didn't think it was that hard to understand I guess I was wrong.

-Knight
 

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Bowser Jr. is a lot more popular, however, a lot of people think of him as annoying and wish that the Koopalings from SMB 3 and SMW would make a reappearance on the mainstream.

Personally, I think the Mario series needs to bring most the bosses from SMB2 back for one or two of their games, they were cool, and I think the Koopalings should be brought back and even put in the Mario Sports games and Mario Party series.
 

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volbound1700.... You should play Mario RPG first... and then, after playing it... and just THEN... start a debate about Geno being in this game; BTW what you are doing is pure trolling.

IMO, Geno will be in the game in some shape, way or form... He is in fact a very popular character... you wouldn't start a debate if he wasn't... it's just that you don't know him... and yet I don't think Wart deserves a spot as a playable character more than Geno.
 

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I have played Mario RPG...

I think the problem here is where I live. I live in the Southeastern United States and we don't have very many solid RPG/Video game players.

The Video games that are popular down here are sports games (especially Madden, Tiger Woods, and NCAA Football), Halo, Sonic (really just the old school Genesis ones), and Old School Mario games (talking about SMW, and SMB 1-3). In fact most people where I live think Nintendo, SNES, and Sega Genesis are a10x better then any of the modern non-sport/halo games.

If you really want to sell SSB here, adding in Sonic and likely a football player would go a long way.
 

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BTW:

Snake is owned by Konami

Simon Belmont is owned by Konami...


I don't think Konami should get 2 of the 3rd party reps.


Edit: My God, you want a football player in Brawl now!?!
 

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I have played Mario RPG...

I think the problem here is where I live. I live in the Southeastern United States and we don't have very many solid RPG/Video game players.

The Video games that are popular down here are sports games (especially Madden, Tiger Woods, and NCAA Football), Halo, Sonic (really just the old school Genesis ones), and Old School Mario games (talking about SMW, and SMB 1-3). In fact most people where I live think Nintendo, SNES, and Sega Genesis are a10x better then any of the modern non-sport/halo games.

If you really want to sell SSB here, adding in Sonic and likely a football player would go a long way.
South-Eastern United states gets the same games that the rest of the United States gets. You need to broaden your perspective. Things happen outside your general community and/or social life. Just because a lot of people you know like Madden, doesn't mean your whole town/State/chunk of the country likes the same thing.

That called generalizing, and you should tread carefully with it in a forum.
 

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I just don't think Geno is that big of a Mario character, that is why he hasn't reappeared since that game. Waluigi is all over the place in the Mario world, even if a filler character.
This is just my own speculation...but it would make sense to me that since Square technically owns the rights to Geno, and shortly after Super Mario RPG was made, things went really sour between Nintendo and Square for a while, the reason Geno didn't appear in more games could have simply been because Square wasn't really making ANY games for Nintendo during the 64 era. Thus Nintendo had to start its own Mario RPG franchise...Paper Mario.

Also, another good reason might be because, from a plot perspective, Geno's entire mission in SMRPG was to fix the Star Road, which he was successful in doing. Essentially, his story came to a close. Since the Star Road was his main priority, I don't know if they would include him in a future adventure if it didn't relate to the Star Road in some way.
 

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A lot of people I know HATE sports games...

I'd prefer to actually PLAY the sport then on a consol...(What, are people too lazy to get up an play a sport they have to pretend their playing it?)

I find them interesting to multi-player sometimes but not worth buying myself...


and DUH old school is popular here...Mario RPG IS Old school (Not 8-bit but it's Super Nintendo)
 

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I'd be one of those people who aren't that fond of sports games, personally >.>

Gimmie something where I can do something that real people DON'T do. THAT'S the kind of game I like playing.
 

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first off, please stop posting volbound. you're an insult to all of us geno haters.

oh, and you know the drill, geno sucks, blah, blah, blah, only starred in one game, blah, blah, blah, is only a side character, blah, blah, we have too many mario characters, blah, blah, waluigi is more deserving, blah, there should only be an FF character for a square rep, blah, blah, all that other stuff I said at the sora/megaman thread.
 

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first off, please stop posting volbound. you're an insult to all of us geno haters.

oh, and you know the drill, geno sucks, blah, blah, blah, only starred in one game, blah, blah, blah, is only a side character, blah, blah, we have too many mario characters, blah, blah, waluigi is more deserving, blah, there should only be an FF character for a square rep, blah, blah, all that other stuff I said at the sora/megaman thread.
Which are all irrelivent
 

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didn't geno get like one of the highest amounts of votes in that poll taken? personally geno is my favorite character in mario rpg, next to that shark... i cant remember his name... he was so awesome!.lol.
 

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Honestly in my opinion more is better. are you seriously suggesting the game is made worse by ADDING a character? if you don't think Geno should be in, and his is, go ahead and beat up on him in training or something.
 

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This is not a flame this is serious discussion... why would Geno be in brawl? He was in one Mario game that wasn't even massively popular...

Why should he be in over lets say

Koopa Trooper

or

Waluigi

or

Tantanga

or

Lakitu

or

the Magikoopa from Yoshi - can't remember his name

or even

Wart
When has starring in one game ever mattered? From what I understand Ness only starred in one game and was added into Smash. Zero Suit Samus has a very short role on her GBA title Metroid Zero Mission. Also, this list of characters is filled with dumb and unimportant characters. Half of them are mindless drones of Bowsers army.

Please stop making stupid threads like this people.
 

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Geno isnt 3rd party.

Hes more on the lines of 2nd/2nd and a half party, since Nintendo and Square worked on it together. If Geno were to be in Brawl, Square would care less, as he doesnt have a popular franchise, which basicly moved right to Paper Mario (Not worked on Square) so..... Plus. Geno is one of the most wanted characters in the game.. Megaman is not really what I'd want, I'd rather see Sonic.. anyways.

Point is, look at the first post of the Geno Thread, and read it fully, tell me that isnt unique. Then look up Super Mario RPG on Wikipedia and tell me it didnt have a HUGE impact on Japan/
 
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