What Are Falcon's Bad Matchups?

[DKaf713]

Hey everyone! Who does the captain struggle against the most and what would be a good secondary to cover his bad Matchups?

 

[MERPIS]

 

[MercuryPenny]

i can't tell if this is a list of secondary suggestions or bad matchups because saying falcon loses to mario, kirby, or ryu is a bit of a stretch but you don't actually say what this is a list of

 

[DKaf713]

That's quite a long list. I'm looking for his absolute terrible matchups like anything 65-35 or worse.

 

[MERPIS]

i can't tell if this is a list of secondary suggestions or bad matchups because saying falcon loses to mario, kirby, or ryu is a bit of a stretch but you don't actually say what this is a list of

these are his bad MUs, also none of these are a "stretch", ask anyone else on the falcon boards and they'll say that this is a true proven bad MU.

That's quite a long list. I'm looking for his absolute terrible matchups like anything 65-35 or worse.

too bad you got all of his bad MUs

 

[DKaf713]

They are all 65-35 or worse? Just wondering but that seems a bit extreme having that many considering he is pretty high on the tier list.

 

[MERPIS]

They are all 65-35 or worse? Just wondering but that seems a bit extreme having that many considering he is pretty high on the tier list.

a bad MU doesn't have to be 65-35 or worse, if that were the case then Sonic diddy cloud bayo and sheik would all be flawless broken characters. The only ones that are 65-35 are Pika and bayo. Kirby Mario and Ryu are all 60-40

 

[DKaf713]

Yeah I meant I'm specifically looking for that bad of a matchup because 60-40 is still doable. What characters do well against pika and bayo then?

 

[Frihetsanka]

Yeah I meant I'm specifically looking for that bad of a matchup because 60-40 is still doable. What characters do well against pika and bayo then?

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/66tock/notable_players_matchup_chart_compilation_v6/

According to Fatality*, the best Captain Falcon main, Captain Falcon only loses two MUs 40-60 (Kirby and Mr. Game & Watch), loses 45:55 against 16 characters, goes even 17 MUs, and wins the rest.

45:55 is generally considered "slight disadvantage" or soft-counter, 40:60 "disadvantage" or counter, and 35:55 "heavy disadvantage" or hard counter. In Smash 4 there aren't many hard counters at all, it's surprisingly balanced. I don't think Captain Falcon hard counters any characters, and he doesn't get hard-countered by any characters either.

A 60-40 MU is pretty bad though. You basically have a 30% chance to win a best of 5.

*Many people believe that Fatality underestimates Bayonetta. She might very well be a 40-60 MU, some Bayonetta players even say it's 35-65.

 

[DKaf713]

Thank you all for the replies! I guess I'll have to go by experience and see what I struggle with if any. I come from melee where there can be some pretty bad matchups amongst the higher tiers; but 60-40 is not a problem to me because that's what pika fox is in melee and that is definitely doable.

 

[Frihetsanka]

Thank you all for the replies! I guess I'll have to go by experience and see what I struggle with if any. I come from melee where there can be some pretty bad matchups amongst the higher tiers; but 60-40 is not a problem to me because that's what pika fox is in melee and that is definitely doable.

Yeah, 40-60 is definitely douable, but it's pretty rough though (it is a counter-pick, after all). 45-55 can also be pretty annoying, but very doable. Smash 4 has very few MUs worse than 40-60, and Captain Falcon is a good character, so it's fairly likely that his worst MU is 40-60 (or possibly even 45-65). It probably helps that characters like Kirby, Pikachu, and Mr. Game & Watch aren't very common in tournament settings.