What’s the point of parry

[Perfect patricia]

If it can’t parry rapid attack moves

 

[Orlando BCN]

You can parry rapid attacks; they just require precise timing. The point of a parry is to cancel all shieldstun, enabling you to instantly perform any other action afterwards.

 

[Fell God]

It's called perfect shield ):<

 

[DeKu Skrub]

It's called perfect shield ):<

It flashes blue, leaves you at frame advantage, and makes a loud noise. Its a parry.

 

[Arthur97]

It flashes blue, leaves you at frame advantage, and makes a loud noise. Its a parry.

I mean, not according to official sources.

 

[DeKu Skrub]

I mean, not according to official sources.

You seem like the kinda guy to say "Hyper Combo" instead of Super

 

[Sudz]

It's called perfect shield ):<

Ryu makes the parry sound from SF when he does it

Also parry is shorter to type and speak than perfect shield

 

[Arthur97]

You seem like the kinda guy to say "Hyper Combo" instead of Super

I'm also the guy who doesn't like the term shine. It's a reflector! Three syllables just aren't that hard to say!

 

[Sudz]

I'm also the guy who doesn't like the term shine. It's a reflector! Three syllables just aren't that hard to say!

Tangential nerd moment but one of the primary drivers in historical development of language in a society is articulatory simplification, in which over time words are changed or repurposed to be easier to say while still carrying their meaning, or even becoming more specific. For example, reflector refers to a lot of different moves, but shine refers to the spacies and more importantly the initial hitbox of their down-special

You don't have to feel bad about shortening words because saying a longer one is somehow more correct, as that is the natural way human language is. If anything, using the shorter slang contributes to the growth of language

 

[Arthur97]

Tangential nerd moment but one of the primary drivers in historical development of language in a society is articulatory simplification, in which over time words are changed or repurposed to be easier to say while still carrying their meaning, or even becoming more specific. For example, reflector refers to a lot of different moves, but shine refers to the spacies and more importantly the initial hitbox of their down-special

You don't have to feel bad about shortening words because saying a longer one is somehow more correct, as that is the natural way human language is. If anything, using the shorter slang contributes to the growth of language

Don't care. I really loathe that term partially because it's so weird and removed from the move's real name. By the way, don't think any other moves other than those three are called reflector, so it still covers the same ground. Plus, it has an intricate association with competitive Melee for me.

 

[Sudz]

Don't care. I really loathe that term partially because it's so weird and removed from the move's real name.

Suit yourself, being bitter about words is your prerogative also if I'm not mistaken every move that reflects projectiles is referred to as a reflector unless it has another iconic name already like the bucket or, you know, shine

 

[DeKu Skrub]

Don't care. I really loathe that term partially because it's so weird and removed from the move's real name. By the way, don't think any other moves other than those three are called reflector, so it still covers the same ground. Plus, it has an intricate association with competitive Melee for me.

That seems really pety

 

[Orlando BCN]

Don't care. I really loathe that term partially because it's so weird and removed from the move's real name. By the way, don't think any other moves other than those three are called reflector, so it still covers the same ground. Plus, it has an intricate association with competitive Melee for me.

Funny how you mention that, since ‘parry’ is not different from ‘perfect shield’, nor is it a made-up word meant to be spoken easily. Parry is actually the correct word to use and the same mechanic has been implemented in other games as ‘just defends’ and whatnot. But sure, it’s Smash and it still refers to it as perfect shielding, but that does not set it apart from any other parry mechanic ever.

 

[Arthur97]

Suit yourself, being bitter about words is your prerogative also if I'm not mistaken every move that reflects projectiles is referred to as a reflector unless it has another iconic name already like the bucket or, you know, shine

You realize every special move has a name right?

 

[Opossum]

Plus I mean, fan made terms can eventually become canon terms as well.

Best example is "tilt." From 64-Smash 4, they were officially called Strong Attacks. Nobody in their right mind actually called them that though, and in Ultimate the fanmade term "tilt" became the official name.

The REAL issue is when people call Chrom's death combo Aethercide when it straight up isn't Aether.



To answer the topic at hand though, yeah, you can parry rapid jabs, but it requires precise timing. Someone even managed to recreate EVO Moment #37.

 

[DeKu Skrub]

Plus I mean, fan made terms can eventually become canon terms as well.

Best example is "tilt." From 64-Smash 4, they were officially called Strong Attacks. Nobody in their right mind actually called them that though, and in Ultimate the fanmade term "tilt" became the official name.

The REAL issue is when people call Chrom's death combo Aethercide when it straight up isn't Aether.



To answer the topic at hand though, yeah, you can parry rapid jabs, but it requires precise timing. Someone even managed to recreate EVO Moment #37.

I've only ever heard Chrombo

 

[ccllr]

Hold up. So Parrying by releasing the shield at the right time has a different effect than perfect shielding, or putting the shield at the right time?
I'm confused.

 

[DeKu Skrub]

Hold up. So Parrying by releasing the shield at the right time has a different effect than perfect shielding, or putting the shield at the right time?
I'm confused.

Nah, the old perfect shield was called Power Shield

 

[SkyDrag0n152]

Hold up. So Parrying by releasing the shield at the right time has a different effect than perfect shielding, or putting the shield at the right time?
I'm confused.

First of all, parrying is perfect shielding. However, it is a different method to perform, unlike other smash games. To parry, you have to (like what you said) release the shield right when the attack hits you. I am kinda new to the shield mechanic though.

 

[ccllr]

Nah, the old perfect shield was called Power Shield

Wew. Didn't know that

First of all, parrying is perfect shielding. However, it is a different method to perform, unlike other smash games. To parry, you have to (like what you said) release the shield right when the attack hits you. I am kinda new to the shield mechanic though.

But in Ultimate it also works the other way around, am I right?... it also works by activating the shield just when the attack comes, aside from the new mechanic that requires to drop the shield instead of activating it.

 

[DeKu Skrub]

Wew. Didn't know that


But in Ultimate it also works the other way around, am I right?... it also works by activating the shield just when the attack comes, aside from the new mechanic that requires to drop the shield instead of activating it.

No, thats gone

 

[SkyDrag0n152]

Wew. Didn't know that


But in Ultimate it also works the other way around, am I right?... it also works by activating the shield just when the attack comes, aside from the new mechanic that requires to drop the shield instead of activating it.

The mechanic I listed is in Ultimate.

 

[Sudz]

You realize every special move has a name right?

Uh, you realize that the vast majority of the Smash community completely ignore those when it's convenient to do so, right? Uh, for example, when they call fox's reflector shine (what we're literally talking about) and oil panic bucket and splat roller just roller. If you're going to try to be condescending at least make sure that what you're saying has any relevance whatsoever to the discussion. Thanks.

 

[SkyDrag0n152]

Uh, you realize that the vast majority of the Smash community completely ignore those when it's convenient to do so, right? Uh, for example, when they call fox's reflector shine (what we're literally talking about) and oil panic bucket and splat roller just roller. If you're going to try to be condescending at least make sure that what you're saying has any relevance whatsoever to the discussion. Thanks.

Oh sry. Haven't posted in a long time.

 

[Sudz]

Oh sry. Haven't posted in a long time.

Wut no that wasn't directed at you lol you have nothing to be sorry for, I was responding to the quoted comment

 

[Fell God]

Perfect shield gang will always remember

 

[DeKu Skrub]

Perfect shield gang will always remember

The future is now, old man

 

[asia_catdog_blue]

Plus I mean, fan made terms can eventually become canon terms as well.

Best example is "tilt." From 64-Smash 4, they were officially called Strong Attacks. Nobody in their right mind actually called them that though, and in Ultimate the fanmade term "tilt" became the official name.

The REAL issue is when people call Chrom's death combo Aethercide when it straight up isn't Aether.



To answer the topic at hand though, yeah, you can parry rapid jabs, but it requires precise timing. Someone even managed to recreate EVO Moment #37.

I DID! I hate the term "tilt!"