We still stand unnerfed!

[Gryphon827]

For those unaware, v3.1.0 came out very recently. It was a balance patch in which pretty much all of the top tiers got nerfed into the ground. Well, all of them except Ike. By some miracle, we still have yet to be nerfed in any 3.X.X patch. Nair still has no landing lag after frame 15, Fsmash still kills at 50% by ledge, Aethercide still kills the opponent first and Counter still lasts for 24 frames. We've still got it, boys.

 

[Arrei]

Because Nair's still all we've got. We already ate some nerfs coming from 4 with Fair, Bair, and Utilt, our smashes are still trash, our Counter is the slowest and one of the laggiest in the game on both miss and success. If they touch Nair at all Ike has nothing left except fishing for Ftilts and Bairs, so I don't feel like any nerfs are likely... but I still want the rest of his kit buffed.

 

[DeDeDIke]

Maybe it's better he remain unchanged. That Nair is pretty useful, the most useful thing he has in his arsenal. And the aethercide still kills the opponent first. Buffing his other moves would be helpful too.

 

[Gryphon827]

Maybe it's better he remain unchanged.

Absolutely. It's either no changes or nerfs, because the devs know enough to not buff a top tier.

 

[Arrei]

He's already dropping in tier lists, is he not? It'd be the same thing that happened in Smash 4. People flip their noodles over Ike getting one really good combo and then he falls off when they start to realize his shortcomings. Except now we don't even have our old Fair and Utilt kill power to fall back on.

 

[DeDeDIke]

He's already dropping in tier lists, is he not?

I think Ike's still considered high tier amongst the pros, though I could be wrong. You can check out the tier list averaged by the pros on this site: https://www.proguides.com/super-smash-bros-ultimate/characters/

 

[SleuthMechanism]

Glad the whiners(I don't even play Ike and the ammount of "AAAA HOW DARE A CHARACTER HAVE A GOOD NAIR! CHEAP!" whining i see everywhere irritates me) haven't gotten you guys unjustly nerfed but.. it's a bit hasty to celebrate. Lie low before the devs take the axe to you next

 

[Xuan Wu]

Any hopes or fears for Ike this upcoming 4.0.0 update, anyone? (Assuming this one includes balance changes.)

 

[Arrei]

I hope so much for Fair and Utilt to get their old kill power back... but I'm not going to expect it.

 

[DeDeDIke]

I actually hope that he remains unchanged, though some buffs would be nice. Then again, I don't see anyone complaining about Ike's Nair anymore, so more than likely he'll remain untouched.

Edit: He isn't nerfed nor buffed, as I expected. Patch notes here: https://www.twingalaxies.com/feed_details.php/5825/super-smash-bros-ultimate-40-patch-notes

 

[DeDeDIke]

Patch 5.0.0 has been released today. Patch notes here: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/47365

Ike isn't touched at all. This tells me that he is going to stay the same for the remainder of the game's lifespan.

 

[DeDeDIke]

Just following up on what I said two months ago, as expected, Ike isn't touched (THEY ACTUALLY BUFFED KIRBY THOUGH =O. Kirby mains can now rejoice and celebrate XD) Patch notes here: https://en-americas-support.nintend...id/48071/kw/super smash bros update ver.6.0.0