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Watching The World Burn: Zard Video Thread! [9.29.15]

LavaLatte

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I am coming for you. I will find you. I will djc fair you.
I'd like to see you try---I mean, char charizard!

I am disappointed with you for not trying to use the beam sword in that game against peach.
Sorry, tourney nerves got to me. I'mma practice my beam sword combos, I promise =P

Anyway, uploaded matches from the Beast Mode NY weekly to Youtube, the same matches that John posted earlier. Don't watch any of my Charizard's vids if you intend to learn. :p

LavaLatte vs. thesage (Ness/Peach)
John Numbers vs. NinjaLink (ZSS) | Winner's Finals
LavaLatte vs. RiB|MoXiE (Mario/Ike) | Loser's Quarters
John Numbers vs. RiB|MoXiE (Mario/Ike) | Loser's Finals
John Numbers vs. Ninjalink (Diddy/ZSS) | Grand Finals
 
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John12346

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As previously mentioned I heavily recommend against watching my WF match against NL too... I put on a much better show getting bopped in GF

Also I pulled out a lot of sweet moves in the set against Moxie, should check that out
 
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Hey guys, I've got some matches from 4HYPE, a Midwest Regional where I took 2nd overall. Here's the twitch archive link.

http://www.twitch.tv/legendoflux/b/540744407

My first Set was against a Luigi from my home state, I think I played it pretty well but any advice would be welcome. Set starts at 2:07:35

My second set was against the best Falcon in KS, and I'm also pretty happy with how I played this but again, any advice would be welcome (also the ending was hype). Set starts at 2:45:00

My GF set was against Strong Bad. I was pretty happy with myself managing to force him off Wario, but then Pit happened, and I'm not really sure what I needed to change. I'm thinking I should have been trying for more Ftilts and Bairs as opposed to Nair spacing, since I wasn't getting follow ups and essentially I was going to have to play footsies with him and just wasn't wanting to. This is definitely the MU that I'd like the most help on. Set starts at 3:02:20.

Thanks in advance!
 

LavaLatte

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@ metroid1117 metroid1117 Should the front page be updated with new vids? Most of the vids there are pre-3.02 with people that don't really play zard anymore. I've been keeping an eye on most of the Zard VoDs lately, so if you need any help updating it lemme know! :D
 

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@ metroid1117 metroid1117 Should the front page be updated with new vids? Most of the vids there are pre-3.02 with people that don't really play zard anymore. I've been keeping an eye on most of the Zard VoDs lately, so if you need any help updating it lemme know! :D
The OP definitely should be updated, but I publicly stated a while ago (1.5 yrs ago?) that I wouldn't be updating the thread anymore. I invited people to take ownership of the thread and message a mod to give them rights to the OP, but no one really stepped up to the plate. If you would like to take charge of the thread, let me know and I'll try asking a mod or admin to make the switch.
 
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John12346

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Here's another fresh batch of matches, hot out of the oven from Nebulous. I got 3rd place, behind NinjaLink and Frozen again so overall about the same performance as last time, heh heh

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/543008703

1:16:20 - John#s vs. Gurukid - Winner's Bracket - Win 2-1
1:51:10 - John#s vs. Ninjalink - Winner's Bracket - Lose 0-2
2:00:05 - John#s vs. DarkBlues - Loser's Quarterfinals - Win 2-1
2:13:45 - John#s vs. Gurukid - Loser's Semifinals - Win 2-1
2:54:40 - John#s vs. Frozen - Loser's Finals - Lose 0-3
3:31:55 - John#s vs. Gallo - $5 Money Match - Win 3-1
3:48:15 - John#s vs. Gallo - $5 Money Match - Win 3-0

Let's see some Youtube all in this joint, let's rock and roll
 
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LavaLatte

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Your wish has been granted, fellow Zardian.

Updated my Youtube channel with playlists of John Numbers and Heroofhatz, and uploaded lots of Zard VoDs from NYC weeklies.

John12346 John12346 Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-IETe1am30RY5ZphCofb_vrejJ54dU6w

Beast Mode NY 14:
- vs. Gurukid [Metaknight]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIB3KlEJtvI
- vs. Gallo [Mario]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSssPRQuKGM
- vs. Ninjalink, WF [ZSS/Diddy]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KJgx_V8b5s
- vs. Frozen, LF - 1 Match [Mewtwo]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hrD6DRgv4

Nebulous PM 4:
- vs. Gurukid [Metaknight]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeETYQNFqkc
- vs. Ninjalink [Lucas] WQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evi2Zh_lcME
- vs. Darkblues [Ivysaur] LQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnZC6JwUL5Q
- vs. Gurukid [Metaknight] LS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpcOvyIZqE
- vs. Frozen [Mewtwo] LF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWHYYPYA2c
- vs. Gallo [Lucas/Mario/Falcon] MM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IXszhbLJc

Heroofhatz Heroofhatz Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-IETe1am30RrT6XL0be4nbfgWFUCYrL0
 
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Oh man I have a playlist now let's go

Also here are some more matches, all very exciting to watch!

http://www.twitch.tv/beastmodeny/b/543932525

1:05:40 - John#s vs. Gallo - Winner's Semifinals - Win 2-1
1:49:25 - John#s vs. Ninjalink - Winner's Finals - Win 3-1
2:27:50 - John#s vs. Ninjalink - Grand Finals - Lose 2-3 followed by Lose 1-3
 

LavaLatte

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Oh man I have a playlist now let's go

Also here are some more matches, all very exciting to watch!

http://www.twitch.tv/beastmodeny/b/543932525

1:05:40 - John#s vs. Gallo - Winner's Semifinals - Win 2-1
1:49:25 - John#s vs. Ninjalink - Winner's Finals - Win 3-1
2:27:50 - John#s vs. Ninjalink - Grand Finals - Lose 2-3 followed by Lose 1-3
Yeah, we know, we all watched the stream :p I'll try to upload these later tonight so we can all yell at you for F-Smashing 20 times. :006:
 

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For the longest time I kept seeing posts by John12346. You know how long it took me to make the connection that that was John#s...

I feel dumb. I can't main Charizard for disgracing one of the best at it T_T Time to pick up Falco...

Nah **** that, Charizard too fun.
 

LavaLatte

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With metroid1117 metroid1117 officially passing the reigns of this thread to yours truly, I've taken the opportunity to completely revamp the OP. There you will find playlists of highly active Zard players, which *should* be updated on a monthly basis at the latest. Additionally, BluntedMask BluntedMask now has his own playlist, although VoDs of him playing are pretty scarce. :p

Ever wanted to learn the Mario/Fox/Falcon matchup? The OP now contains individual sets sorted according to character, all of which are post patch 3.02. Anything pre-patch is still there at the bottom. Sorry Olimar players, we'll meet someday.

Fly on, my fellow Zardians.:006:
 
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LavaLatte

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Smashboards still won't let me edit any of my posts. Now I can only stare at how ugly my OP formatting is. :c

EDIT: Unreal. Apparently I can edit every post except for OP.
 
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Mera Mera

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Have some matches... got second at Construct 9 (a Milwaukee biweekly)
Neenah/Appleton crew got 1st - 4th at this one so pretty happy with that.

Winners Bracket set Mera (Zard) vs Fatboy (G&W and Samus):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC5DTjbJn9U

Winners Finals set Mera (Zard) vs Hunger (Ness, Mario, and Marth):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--f4qlax-78

Losers Finals set Mera (Zard) vs Fatboy (G&W and Samus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3-bGcMbt4E (end of second match was awesome :p )

Grand Finals set Mera (Zard) vs Hunger (Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRpAFoWqmbw

I got bodied by Ness pretty hard... I would really appreciate advice on this match up. @ Oracle Oracle

I lost pretty hard to Hunger's Mario as well, but I don't normally... I think I just played bad that game, but advice is welcome here too.

Of course advice on Zard as a whole is much appreciated too.
 
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Havent seen your matches, but that mu is rough. Cant really juggle with ness since he has no hitstun and his dair trades favorably with your upsmash, jab, and other up moves. Use your superior dash speed to bait stuff, punish by putting him in the airs and only juggle with super well spaced sruff that he cant punish well like bair and nair. If youre gutsy to go for an uair midcombo, it keads into up b and kills super early, and a trade at that point is usually irrelevamt
 

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I discovered today that if PK Fire is already burning your shield, you can UpB to at least burst Ness off you if he gets too close. Trade off is that you'll clank with the PK Fire at the same time and start getting hit by the flames immediately afterwards.

As far as the matchup in general, Ness is definitely on my Top 3 list for matchups you need to air camp like crazy.
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Also more recorded matches. This time I won it all! (due to the fact Ninjalink was not present...)

www.twitch.tv/beastmodeny/b/546004877

4:31:25 - John#s vs. Kravis - Winner's Bracket - Win
4:53:00 - John#s vs. StereoKid - Winner's Semifinals - Win
5:15:20 - John#s vs. Gallo - Winner's Finals - Win
6:22:15 - John#s vs. Gallo - Grand Finals - Lose followed by Win

Protip: Every single set against Gallo went to Game 5
 
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Mucho thanks too Shadic and Warchamp7, the OP once again looks spick and span. I'm gonna see if I can upload John's matched to YT, but in the meantime, Zen's recent tournament games have been added to the OP in his playlist and character matchups. =]

[GG3] W½F - Zen (Charizard) Vs. Nono (Wario) - Project M
[GG3] WF - Zen (Charizard) Vs. EMG | Leon (Marth) - Project M
[GG3] GF - Zen (Charizard) Vs. Nono (Wario/Falco/Marth) - Project M
The irony of Zen winning against Leon in the 2nd match, with Hot in Here remix playing in the background...
 

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We really should record matches at my local tournaments. I'm beginning to think my Charizard is getting truly good. If we ever do start recording, I'll come back here so that you can add me to the list and critique my game.

Of course it'll seem pretty pathetic compared to you people, we're not exactly the most advanced set of smashers....
 

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haven't really been that pm active or on here at all, but seeing as i've lost all my presence in this thread, here are 2 of my more high-caliber matches (with me loosing), i'd be happy if you'd add them to the OP :D
Yomi vs ProfPro (Beast#4)
Yomi vs Amsa (RoF#3)

I might start playing a bit more again soon, and i hope that'll give me a bit of a boost again. I feel like i haven't really been able to play at full strenght, there's a lot more mobility to tickle out of the dragon, i'll hopefully work on that a little bit these upcoming months....
All my other recorded matches are from smaller smashfests sadly
 
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Ace55

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Some footage of my set vs Amsah last Sunday, I only went Zard for the last two matches.


Oh, and I also unlocked Marth...
 
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Here's a few more matches. My performance was... interesting I guess. I think I'm coming up with some new strats or something but I gotta flesh em out a bit better.

Also this tournament was Round Robin, 6 entrants.

http://www.twitch.tv/beastmodeny/b/556261922

2:48:30 - John#s vs. NinjaLink (the end of this match gets cut off but w/e)
3:04:00 - John#s vs. Malachi
3:38:10 - John#s vs. Cruised
3:45:10 - John#s vs. Shredagaze
 
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John12346

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Here's another batch, this time from Nebulous. I pulled out some sweet moves this time around and want to review them if possible, so could we get a Youtube on this one?

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/556676898

4:32:10 - John#s vs. DarkBlues - Win
4:43:40 - John#s vs. Gallo - Lose
5:50:20 - John#s vs. StereoKiDD - Win
5:58:35 - John#s vs. Gallo(Loser's Finals) - Win
6:18:35 - John#s vs. NinjaLink(Grand Finals) - Lose
 

LavaLatte

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Here's another batch, this time from Nebulous. I pulled out some sweet moves this time around and want to review them if possible, so could we get a Youtube on this one?

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/556676898

4:32:10 - John#s vs. DarkBlues - Win
4:43:40 - John#s vs. Gallo - Lose
5:50:20 - John#s vs. StereoKiDD - Win
5:58:35 - John#s vs. Gallo(Loser's Finals) - Win
6:18:35 - John#s vs. NinjaLink(Grand Finals) - Lose
These can now all be found on Youtube in your matches playlist. Also added them to the appropriate matchup sections. :D
 

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My roommate recorded some flipcam-quality vids of my winner's finals set against strong bad. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3stWWH1BozP8StQBjHJ9pZbZHHRmRBPf

Also here's winners and loser's finals of a tourney I had a while ago. It was my first loss to Joker's Link in a while so I think I know what to do next time. As for Falco, my biggest mistake was not banning FD. We had a few friendlies and it was the only stage I couldn't win on. Other than that my nair out of shield was just getting stuffed by that dair all day, and I played like a super scrub when my back was to the ledge. =\ As always critique is welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKuI18uCJ08&#t=1h12m0s
 

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This is from a couple weeks back but it's the most recent stream footage I have:

Mera Mera (Zard) vs ORLY (Captain Falcon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFWRqfNd6M&index=4&list=PLXr8fmSpMMKEt7CjwGK_SQmn7JOp_oTrl

Mera Mera (Zard) vs Rat (Wolf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCCLqbrK0aw&index=1&list=PLXr8fmSpMMKEt7CjwGK_SQmn7JOp_oTrl

Critiques are welcomed / hoped for. I managed to win both sets but I definitely have room for improvement. I have a lot of ideas for changing how I play vs wolf, but suggestions are still welcome, especially suggestions for the neutral game (for either matchup).
 
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I went to Don't Get Rekt recently and here is a pools match of me vs Renegade
youtube.com/watch?v=-pe8aI2jbLA (Sadly I can't link this because I need to post 10 times...)
 
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