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Wario Q&A Thread
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tedeth
Smash Master
You don't have to be good to be legenday. Look at that Australian Speed Skater who won Olympic Gold because everyone else fell over. :\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJAZHsEkb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJAZHsEkb4
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
That's weird whenever I try it he jumps and avoids it oh wells.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
hunger!
Smash Champion
d3's reg grab > bite. and you're telling him to approach a PIVOT GRABBING d3 with bites? worst advice ever.
Airdodge into Spotdodge.
He will only have a 3-4 frame window to grab you out of it. If he grabs too early, spotdodge activates. If he does it too soon, well in that instance spotdodging would be bad cause you could just attack him regularly.
Hit then run away.
He will only have a 3-4 frame window to grab you out of it. If he grabs too early, spotdodge activates. If he does it too soon, well in that instance spotdodging would be bad cause you could just attack him regularly.
Hit then run away.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
If you approach from the air your bite beats his grab.
Not his pivot grab though. You can still hit his head when he's pivot grabbing w/ dairs though, or go around him and pivot bite.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I thought jump in bites beat out all his grabs
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
That's what I meant being above the grab box and bite. But I didn't really say that didn't know how to explain it but PX said it doesn't beat pivot grab so I'm still wrong =/.
Pivot grabs also have a larger vertical hitbox. I'm not the only person you should believe, AL, quite a few people on these boards know what they're talking about.
Popertop
Smash Champion
I hate DeDeDe
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
just to clarify, Warios bite beats D3's STANDING grab ONLY if he mis-spaces (which happens often enough)
Jupz
Smash Master
This is true, its why they're often used to stop aerial approaches.
brannerboy
Smash Rookie
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Is fair the best for momentum canceling? I know that nair is one frame faster, but it seems like most people use fair instead. Reason for this?
Fair ends sooner than Nair. It's not about how fast the aerial comes out, but rather how soon it ends.
Whenever you reach the point where you can use an aerial, the first frame that comes by you can fast fall. This means that regardless of how fast your attack is, the first frame you can fastfall.
Look at Fair. It takes 7 frames to hit. Before that however, on frame 1 of Fair, you can fastfall. Since you are able to start up attacks at the same window (faster attacks do not start before slower attacks, it's like hitting a brick wall and then trying to attack. Everyone hits it the same time), there's no point in picking a faster startup aerial because they are all equal in that area. How soon it ends will allow you to move freely before other aerials. This allows you to Bike/try to slow down.
Whenever you reach the point where you can use an aerial, the first frame that comes by you can fast fall. This means that regardless of how fast your attack is, the first frame you can fastfall.
Look at Fair. It takes 7 frames to hit. Before that however, on frame 1 of Fair, you can fastfall. Since you are able to start up attacks at the same window (faster attacks do not start before slower attacks, it's like hitting a brick wall and then trying to attack. Everyone hits it the same time), there's no point in picking a faster startup aerial because they are all equal in that area. How soon it ends will allow you to move freely before other aerials. This allows you to Bike/try to slow down.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
Hey I was watching fiction vs sean or whatever his name is some MK. Fiction get doing ledge drop DJ Dairs against him. How effective is that against MK's recovery options?
hunger!
Smash Champion
goes through everything if you do it right. but mk has like 900 jumps and can just bait it then recover safely
Not very effective honestly. That's not the best of ideas for trying to stop MK. They have enough recovery options 95% of the time to either delay their recovery enough to hit you before/after Dair, or to possibly gimp you.
If you DJ Dair hovering offstage/around the edge trying to hit them, and they grab it and you aren't able to maneuver back onstage in that DJ, then you are screwed HARD.
If you DJ Dair hovering offstage/around the edge trying to hit them, and they grab it and you aren't able to maneuver back onstage in that DJ, then you are screwed HARD.
#HBC | ZoZo
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AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
So if it timed right it's super effective?
Well if you've faired them out of a glide then it becomes more effective right ? But I definitely see the risk involved that you've pointed out. But I just feel awkward not doing anything while MK recovers safely ya know?
Just try to hit the MK if they're at stage level with a bair/dair or a waft if they aren't too far below the ledge. Aside from that, let them do as they please. If they start being annoying/planky, start throwing bikes.
*JuriHan*
Smash Master
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guyz im actually doing offline tommorow with someone, I haven't forgotten about Wario. I was wondering if I should use him, but if I SD and my friend finds out I was distracted because I was getting turned on by Wario and not him you think he might get offended? Maybe I shouldn't use him after all. Plz help!
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I'll try that also.
LoL @ throw bikes.
If he was smart he'd pick Wario just to get you turned on.
What's so funny about throwing bikes?
Zori
Smash Champion
bike throws are amazing @_@
px make my wario good
px make my wario good
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
It just sounds funny. Like eh throw a bike at that *****.
That's pretty much what it is, lol.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Ledge drop, double jump Dair?
Letting go of a ledge, jumping and Down airing, IIRC. lol
Letting go of a ledge, jumping and Down airing, IIRC. lol
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
You shouldn't let slepten troll you like that.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Yeah, but I would've felt bad if it wasn't a troll though.
Especially after looking at the post count. rofl