Vivian for Brawl thread!

[Sabrewulf238]

Ok I tried this earlier with Mallow(but he already had a thread, just hoping Vivian doesn't have one already since it's not on the Index)

Extra Pictures

The Shadow Sirens, Beldam, Marilyn and Vivian!
Interesting fact: Beldam is an old english word meaning ugly old woman.

When you think about it, people are saying they don't want Paper Mario because he could be a clone of Mario, here's a simple solution, if Paper Mario needs a representative why not Vivian? For me Vivian was one of the most memorable of Paper Mario's Partners.

Ok I'll think up a moveset, not good at this so......

A Moves

A right/Left - Normal Punch - Stretches arm a bit to get good distance on punch

A Up - Stretch Uppercut - Stretches arm upwards to do damage

A down - Slam - Slams her fists on ground.

B Moves

B Right/Left - Shade Fist - Punches foward with fire which sometimes causes the hit character to go on fire.

B Down - Hides underground, you can move her and pop up with B up, however you can't stay underground forever.

B Up - when underground Vivian pops up to deal damage to foes, but when not
underground she stretches herself to try and reach Ledges when in the air.

Grabs

Grab Down - Shoves foe underground and pulls them out again to do damage

Grab Left/Right - Grabs foe and stretches out to fling them away.

Grab Up - Flings upwards and shoots Flames up at foe.


Final Smash

Final Smash - Fiery Jynx(With action command) - Button symbols appear above Vivian's head. Obviously the buttons would be different depending on what controller you're using, but I'll use the wii remote as an example....these buttons can appear

A, B, 1, 2, +, -

The order they appear in however is random.
Upon a successful action command, vivian will perform fiery jynx, it's strength is based on two things:

1.How fast you completed action command (faster = Stronger)
2.How many wrong buttons you pressed (More mistakes = Weaker)

Then Vivian uses Fiery jynx, damaging all characters within a certain range, all characters hit will sustain a burn and will continue taking damage for a short period of time after the final smash has ended.


Support Icon!

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa285/Sabrewulf238/vivianpf5.png

So what does everyone else think?

 

[Cinder]

Hmm...I coulda sworn there was a Vivian thread...but apparently there isn't...anyway, Vivian's a great idea, but I'm not sure if she's a big enough character (not size, popularity, etc.) to get in...nice moveset, though...she's got the moves and physique to get in, just not the notoriety...

 

[Sabrewulf238]

It's not all about Popularity, I think Vivian would be a solid fighter in brawl and would be a unique one too. Plus Vivian is on Sakurai's Poll which says something about her chances anyway.

 

[Cinder]

It's not all about Popularity, I think Vivian would be a solid fighter in brawl and would be a unique one too. Plus Vivian is on Sakurai's Poll which says something about her chances anyway.

Well, I guess you're right...it wouldn't hurt to have more Mario reps (besides, having 7-8 Mario reps would increase Lucario's chances)...and I forgot Vivian was on the poll...

One more thing...as great a character as she is, with all of the perfect characters being At'ed, Vivian could be as well...but she could also be a PC...it can go either way...I'm all for her as a PC, I'm just preparing for the worst...

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I'm 70% sure Vivian will be a playable charecter!

Ok I know that's a bold statement but I think if a paper mario has a representative it will be Vivian, not Paper mario since theres not going to be clones and not just clones from a move point of view but from the Looks, paper Mario and Normal Mario look quite similar(well appart from one being flat....)

 

[Eggman]

If she doesn't make it as a PC, she would be an awesome AT. She would appear and pull you down into the ground like in Paper Mario and you'd be gone for a few seconds.

 

[tennisthehilife]

It's not all about Popularity, I think Vivian would be a solid fighter in brawl and would be a unique one too. Plus Vivian is on Sakurai's Poll which says something about her chances anyway.

I completely agree. Vivian was my favorite partner, she would be unique.

 

[vesperview]

Slimy thing with witch's hat? No thanks!

 

[tennisthehilife]

If she doesn't make it as a PC, she would be an awesome AT. She would appear and pull you down into the ground like in Paper Mario and you'd be gone for a few seconds.

Actually I agree more w/ this. Shes not a very likely PC but awesome high chance AT.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Slimy thing with witch's hat? No thanks!

It's a fighting game not a beauty show, it doesn't matter what she looks like, Ganondorfs fairly horrid looking too but you don't see me complaining.

 

[Hong]

I didn't read the full first post because it's so badly formatted. :/
Sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but please make it easier to read. It's spelt "enemy", not "enimie". Enemies when you're referring to more than one.

Slimy thing with witch's hat? No thanks!

She isn't slimy. Just made out of some shadowy substance. o.o

I'm all for Vivian. She could definately offer something unique.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Sorry if this comes across as ignorant, but please make it easier to read. It's spelt "enemy", not "enimie". Enemies when you're referring to more than one.

No that's ok I'm going to put it through an spell check now and Try and tidy it up a bit.

Edit: Sorry I wasn't able to change it, my internet connection wasn't working properly

 

[Desruprot]

This is not a bad idea, although I am worried the chances are low...

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Well Sakurai has been showing an interest in having more female fighters so....that boosts her chances.

Things going for her:

1.Sakurai Showing interest in more female fighters
2.She would be a unique fighter
3.Was on Sakurai's poll
4.Is possibly the most memorable paper mario partner.

Things against her:
1.Not very popular


That's all I can see anyway....

 

[error_alt_delete]

interesting character, I would like her to replace game&watch. if mario has a paper mario alt then her chances would shoot up(I havnt seen any E for all video's so I wouldnt know if he had him or not). but her chances are low at best for now.

 

[vesperview]

She isn't slimy. Just made out of some shadowy substance. o.o

Yeah substances are usually slimy, still NO!

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I think she'd be way better then Paper Mario because at the end of the day regardless of what different moves Paper mario has he's still Mario at least Vivian is a new face.

vesperview, Ridley looks horrid and probably slimy/Scaly but you seem to like him.....

Ok Lunadis didn't describe it well, she's just a shadow creature theres no substance involved.

I couldn't care less if a fighter had three heads and had worms sticking out of it, as it's a fighting game not a Barbie beauty game or something like that

 

[vesperview]

I think she'd be way better then Paper Mario because at the end of the day regardless of what different moves Paper mario has he's still Mario at least Vivian is a new face.

vesperview, Ridley looks horrid and probably slimy/Scaly but you seem to like him.....

Ok Lunadis didn't describe it well, she's just a shadow creature theres no substance involved.

I couldn't care less if a fighter had three heads and had worms sticking out of it, as it's a fighting game not a Barbie beauty game or something like that

How is Ridley slimy? I'm not interested in discussing a zero chance character, don't compare this **** to Ridley.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Well then....why are you here discussing it?

she isn't zero chance, that's just your opinion, until you show absolute proof she has no chance, then all you have are assumptions.....

Also she wasn't in Sakurai's poll for nothing, he must have been considering her.

 

[vesperview]

Again I just stated what I think of the character in my first post, and it isn't a post that needs to be replied to to start an argument, people who make character threads at this point are just digging in the darkest bottoms of their head or the Sakurai poll, seriously this character may not have zero chance but it doesn't get to five anyway.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Well I don't want an argument, I'm not the one throwing out ****'s and such.....

I'm just trying to support Vivian for brawl and if you don't like her...say it but don't keep saying it to the point where it becomes an argument.

I respect you opinion but I just think differently about this charecter.

 

[Mysteryfox1]

I like this character a lot she's my favorite partner in paper mario and the thousand year door but I don't think she's in brawl because she's isn't that significant to the storyline and doesn't have enough popularity

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Vivian was a great character in paper mario and she deserves to be in brawl *shakes fist at sakurai*

All that aside though, sakurai is looking for more females so.....Vivian? How more unique can you get?

I wish more people would give her a chance, she is really cool!

 

[Enigma14]

IF Mikaya a light makes it in, why not a fire mage?

VIVIAN 4 BRAWL!

 

[Biggie Smalls]

 

[Enigma14]

Thats nice seeing as how we got Mario, Vivian for the paper series!

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Thats nice seeing as how we got Mario, Vivian for the paper series!

I'm making Anti-Stuff sigs just because of that, and I'm starting with Vivian, Mog, and Sonic.



Oh, and Tupac

 

[Enigma14]

I'm making Anti-Stuff sigs just because of that, and I'm starting with Vivian, Mog, and Sonic.



Oh, and Tupac

Thats nice of you not to give them a chance. =)

BTW if you ever played FF6 then you know how Mog works but for S/E I prefer Geno.

 

[Blade Knight]

Paper mario in no way shape or form would be a mario clone check his support thread oh and i love viv's she rules

 

[Kriven]

Here you guys go:

I'd much rather have Lady Bow, since she's my favorite of the Paper Mario allies, but I also fully support Vivian.

My only concern is that it would look odd to have that shadow-trail going all the way down and off-screen if she were to go over edge... I also think she should be in 3D with a Paper costume...

Either way, Vivian recieves my support!

Also, to whomever said she played no significant part of the PM:TTYD story, you're very wrong. She was one of three assassins sent out by that X-Naut Leader guy to thwart Mario, becoming problems through several portions of the game. Vivian and her sisters were actually followers of the Shadow Queen, who would have not been released if the three weren't around.

 

[Enigma14]

Here you guys go:

I'd much rather have Lady Bow, since she's my favorite of the Paper Mario allies, but I also fully support Vivian.

My only concern is that it would look odd to have that shadow-trail going all the way down and off-screen if she were to go over edge... I also think she should be in 3D with a Paper costume...

Either way, Vivian recieves my support!

Also, to whomever said she played no significant part of the PM:TTYD story, you're very wrong. She was one of three assassins sent out by that X-Naut Leader guy to thwart Mario, becoming problems through several portions of the game. Vivian and her sisters were actually followers of the Shadow Queen, who would have not been released if the three weren't around.

Also she is cruicial to the plot because shes knows why Grodus is gathring the crystals but she is vague on whom is released because she was born after the shadow queen had been locked away.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Wow thanks for that vivian support icon!

I believe that paper mario characters may be separate from the mushroom kingdom reps, they might have a book(that's paper marios symbol right?) instead.

 

[Enigma14]

Wow thanks for that vivian support icon!

I believe that paper mario characters may be separate from the mushroom kingdom reps, they might have a book(that's paper marios symbol right?) instead.

maybe but its still Mario-related its not like Yoshi or DK where its own branch

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Paper mario is it's own branch. Yoshi is closly related to the mushroom kingdom though, even though it has it's own games almost anyone who would have thought of yoshi before melee would have just put him under the mushroom kingdom icon.

 

[Enigma14]

Paper mario is it's own branch. Yoshi is closly related to the mushroom kingdom though, even though it has it's own games almost anyone who would have thought of yoshi before melee would have just put him under the mushroom kingdom icon.

explain how it can be self-standing, by itself like the DK series?

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Look at it this way, the mushroom kingdom and the paper mario world even if they're the same place are really different in looks. I'm just saying it's a good possibility that paper mario will have it's own icon.....

Because if paper mario isn't a seperate series from the mushroom kingdom, I'm afraid over popularization will stop Vivian from being in brawl.....

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I think the only reason Yoshi got in as his own franchise was because he's controllable without Mario in one game, and controllable himself in 3 in all...2 while protecting Baby Mario though and stuff...

 

[Enigma14]

I think the only reason Yoshi got in as his own franchise was because he's controllable without Mario in one game, and controllable himself in 3 in all...2 while protecting Baby Mario though and stuff...

if thats true then PM isnt seperate, thus making itself a mushroom kingdom logo

 

[Sabrewulf238]

But if you go by that theory(yoshi being playable in own game so he has his own franchise) than being able to play as Paper mario in the paper mario games would make it the paper mario franchise. Paper mario isn't exactly the same as Normal mario, not fully anyway....

Let's see.....if there were

Mario
Peach
Luigi
Bowser
Geno
Paper mario
Vivian

.....A lot of people would call that over popularized

I just hope Sakurai isn't thinking about over popularization.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Let's see.....if there were

Mario
Peach
Luigi
Bowser
Geno
Paper mario
Vivian

.....A lot of people would call that over popularized

I just hope Sakurai isn't thinking about over popularization.

Who cares what they call, after it comes out no one will care about that anymore