Vaccines do not cause autism

[GoldShadow]

I would like to post this here, in response to this post in the SWF Gym thread:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7452056#post7452056

I'm not putting this in the debate hall since this isn't a debate, it's basic science. Anyway, here's a short list of all the sources (a few of which I've excerpted) regarding the issue:

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/autism/autism-mmr.htm
"Current scientific evidence does not support the hypothesis that measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, or any combination of vaccines, causes the development of autism, including regressive forms of autism. The question about a possible link between MMR vaccine and autism has been extensively reviewed by independent groups of experts in the U.S. including the National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine. These reviews have concluded that the available epidemiologic evidence does not support a causal link between MMR vaccine and autism."

http://www.ct.gov/dph/lib/dph/Paul_Offitt_vaccines_and_autism.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/AutismDecision/

http://www.iom.edu/CMS/3793/4705.aspx

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSL043963020080205

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/upload/autismMMR.pdf

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1954297
-An NPR broadcast about the issue

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal.htm
"...evidence from several studies examining trends in vaccine use and changes in autism frequency does not support such an association."

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20090212/vaccine-court-rejects-autism-claims
"Vaccine Court" rejects autism claims

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/faq_vaccines.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29160138/
"Science years ago reached the conclusion that there’s no connection"
"The evidence “is weak, contradictory and unpersuasive,” concluded Special Master Denise Vowell. “Sadly, the petitioners in this litigation have been the victims of bad science conducted to support litigation rather than to advance medical and scientific understanding” of autism."

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/combo-vaccines/mmr/faqs-mmr-hcp.htm
"There is no scientific reason for or benefit to separating the antigens. There is no credible evidence that measles vaccine or MMR increases the risk of autism."

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/autism/cadata.htm
"A follow-up analysis of the data published in 2001 showed that there is no association between autism rates in California and the proportions of young children in this state who have received Measles Mumps Rubella (MMR) vaccine."

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/mmr_vaccine.htm

http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/node/5026

http://www7.nationalacademies.org/ocga/testimony/Influenza_vaccine.asp

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/08/science/sci-autism8
"Mercury's Removal Doesn't Stop Autism's Rise, Study Shows"

http://jolt.unc.edu/blog/2009/02/18/no-link-between-mmr-vaccine-and-autism

http://web.missouri.edu/~segerti/1000/ps1/no%20autismvaccinelink.pdf

http://discovermagazine.com/2009/jun/06-why-does-vaccine-autism-controversy-live-on
"The irony is that vaccine skepticism—not the vaccines themselves—is now looking like the true public-health threat."
"The decadelong vaccine-autism saga began in 1998, when British gastroenterologist Andrew Wakefield and his colleagues published evidence in The Lancet suggesting they had tracked down a shocking cause of autism...Yet even as vaccine hysteria reached a fever pitch in the wake of Kennedy’s and Kirby’s writings, the scientific evidence was leaning strongly in the other direction. In discounting the dangers of both the MMR vaccine and thimerosal, the IOM had multiple large epidemiological studies to rely on. For MMR, the IOM examined 16 studies...showed no evidence of a link."

http://www.iom.edu/CMS/3793/4705/20155.aspx
"The committee concludes that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism. The committee also concludes that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."

http://www.dukehealth.org/HealthLibrary/AdviceFromDoctors/YourChildsHealth/mmr_vaccine_and_autism

http://www.mailman.columbia.edu/news/e-newsletter/AtTheFrontline-vol3no4/Pdf/re-MMR_autism.pdf

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27440647/
"Doctor disputes autism, vaccine link"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/03/health/main4413842.shtml

http://www.quackwatch.com/03HealthPromotion/immu/autism.html

http://altmed.creighton.edu/Vaccination/Page1.htm
"Temporal relationship between MMR vaccination and autistic symptoms: Because two things happen sequentially, does not mean that they are causally related. For example, if a rooster crows every morning and then the sun comes up, it does not mean that the rooster crow is causing the sum to come up. In the same way, if a child receives a vaccination and then he develops autism it does not mean that the vaccination caused the autism. There must be more evidence linking them than just a temporal relationship. If a causal relationship exists, one would expect for there to be more autism per capita in vaccinated children than in non vaccinated children. One would also expect the rates of autism to increase after the vaccination was introduced."

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/cc-thim.htm

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table-08-0806.pdf

http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/me....Critical.Test.Slowly.Dissolves-3635593.shtml

http://www.jhsph.edu/cadde/Facts/autism.html#vaccines

http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/news/Alerts/EliStone.htm

http://dearscience.org/2009/02/16/autism-is-not-caused-by-vaccination/

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=384

A few selected studies:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003140
"Lack of Association between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...rders: negative results presented from Japan.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/aq0470t874jwm686/
"MMR-vaccine and regression in autism spectrum disorders: negative result presented from Japan."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&doptcmdl=Citation&defaultField=Title%20Word&term=Taylor%5Bauthor%5D%20AND%20Autism%20and%20measles%2C%20mumps%2C%20and%20rubella%20vaccine%3A%20no%20epidemiological%20evidence%20for%20a%20causal%20association.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=c49b0521b5c0daf9efb34e079709a0e1
"Autism and measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine: no epidemiological evidence for a causal association."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...outine childhood immunization schedule of UK.
"Absence of detectable measles virus genome sequence in blood of autistic children who have had their MMR vaccination during the routine childhood immunization schedule of UK."

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vsd/thimerosal_outcomes/
"Thimerosal Neurodevelopmental Study"

http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimfaq.htm#q11
"There is no convincing evidence of harm caused by the small doses of thimerosal preservative in influenza vaccines, except for minor effects like swelling and redness at the injection site.Recent research suggests that healthy children under the age of 2 are more likely than older children and as likely as people over the age of 65 to be hospitalized with flu complications. Therefore, vaccination with thimerosal-preservative containing influenza vaccine and thimerosal-reduced influenza vaccine is encouraged when feasible in children, including those that are 6-23 months of age."

http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#tox
"The committee concluded that this body of evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism, and that hypotheses generated to date concerning a biological mechanism for such causality are theoretical only. Further, the committee stated that the benefits of vaccination are proven and the hypothesis of susceptible populations is presently speculative, and that widespread rejection of vaccines would lead to increases in incidences of serious infectious diseases like measles, whooping cough and Hib bacterial meningitis."

http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4026.pdf
(A short article followed by a list of 25 studies showing no causal relationship between MMR vaccine and autism)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14519711
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/290/13/1763
"Furthermore, we found no evidence of a dose-response association (increase in RR per 25 microg of ethylmercury, 0.98 [95% CI, 0.90-1.06] for autism and 1.03 [95% CI, 0.98-1.09] for other autistic-spectrum disorders). CONCLUSION: The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders."

http://www.med.umich.edu/pediatrics/ebm/cats/autism.htm

http://www.ehponline.org/members/2005/7712/7712.pdf

http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPorta...&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ790427
(evidence shows that tylenol or ibuprofen use after vaccination does not cause autism)

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/347/19/1477

 

[SuperBowser]

Just wanted to add a few things.

PaperstSoapCo's first three sources (and last) either prove nothing or are logical fallacies. The 4th source is just a lie. The conclusion of the study his source mentioned:

''The evidence does not support a causal association between MMR vaccination and autism. Although there may be biologic plausibility for an association, there is a lack of evidence in five of the classic attributes of causality: consistency, strength of the association, specificity, dose response and experimental evidence. Whereas the risks of disease and complications of disease in the unvaccinated are known and real, the role of MMR vaccination as an initiator, or promoter, of autism remains unsubstantiated. ''

(Also, the MMR vaccine never containted mercury.)

 

[Tom]

As physicians, my parents raaage when they hear reports on the news about parents not vaccinating their children because of fear of their kids becoming autistic due to mercury.

 

[Superstar]

Isn't autism something you're born with, not something you "get"? The only thing is that the diagnoses comes later in life.

I mean, I'm autistic and I was always the same way since birth. It only took till my teens for them to change my ADHD diagnosis.

 

[SuperBowser]

As physicians, my parents raaage when they hear reports on the news about parents not vaccinating their children because of fear of their kids becoming autistic due to mercury.

Probably because rates of MMR disease have gone up and excess children have died/been permanently affected.

All for a risk reported by irresponsible newspapers that doesn't exist.

 

[Teran]

The public generally don't trust scientists, haha.

You can blame sensationalist papers for cooking up correlations.

Still, there's hope for educating this generation so they don't make the same mistake of not vaccinating their kids when they become parents.

 

[Livvers]

Omg, thank you. i hate when people don't vaccinate their kids for these ridiculous reasons.

 

[slave1]

so quick question has autism increased over the years or has it remained at a relatively level occurance.

 

[GOD!]

Isn't autism something you're born with, not something you "get"? The only thing is that the diagnoses comes later in life.

I mean, I'm autistic and I was always the same way since birth. It only took till my teens for them to change my ADHD diagnosis.

Some forms people are born with, and there are other kinds that progress and come out, usually right before puberty.

And vaccines cause AIDS, no way I'm getting those things.

 

[_Phloat_]

Soap justs believes any conspiracy that crosses his internet browser, don't let it get to you on a personal level.

That said, this thread is a good thing. People's health and lives are worth the time, even if only 1 takes it to heart =]

 

[Amide]

The whole vaccine autism controversy just shows the power of undeveloped inferences. There are NO scientific studies to show any link. Thank you.

 

[GoldShadow]

so quick question has autism increased over the years or has it remained at a relatively level occurance.

Occurrence of autism has increased over the past century or so; I'd find numbers but I'm too tired right now!

The exact cause of the increase is unknown.

 

[Mic_128]

I would wager it'd be because of

1. Increased population size
2. Increased survival rate so children survive long enough to be diagnosed.

 

[Lore]

I would wager it'd be because of

1. Increased population size
2. Increased survival rate so children survive long enough to be diagnosed.

and that seems to be the cause behind a lot of things, unfortunately.

Thanks for getting together all this stuff. I had a huge argument with someone over this the other day, so this will come in handy when I see him next time.

 

[Frown]

Autism can't be developed. You're born with it or you live without it.

 

[Kitten]

Also worth noting that the vaccinations were given near the age that signs of autism begin to show.

 

[Ryan Ludovic]

It does not cause autism,
It does impair neurological development.

I hate children, especially babies, stick them with whatever. So long as I don't get sick from the gremlins..

 

[GoldShadow]

It does not cause autism,
It does impair neurological development.

That's the thing, it doesn't. Yeah, mercury and toxins in high levels are known to cause neurological damage. But thimerosal and mercury in vaccines are not at any level that can cause harm; most vaccines don't even contain the stuff.

 

[Ryan Ludovic]

That's the thing, it doesn't. Yeah, mercury and toxins in high levels are known to cause neurological damage. But thimerosal and mercury in vaccines are not at any level that can cause harm; most vaccines don't even contain the stuff.

I said Mercury could, not Mercury in vaccines. I don't know how much is in vaccines, so I'll read into it.

 

[GoldShadow]

Ah, I see. I was assuming you meant vaccines or mercury in vaccines.

 

[Ryan Ludovic]

Ah, I see. I was assuming you meant vaccines or mercury in vaccines.

I should have specified, that was my fault. Apologies!
Really, the situation should be parents need to do the research!

Find out at what level the stuff becomes harmful, find out how much is in there, and compare to their child. Me, I can bearly keep myself healthy, so I don't plan on helping a child through it XD

I wont take shots or vaccines unless I NEED them, then I research them accordingly. [thankfully i haven't NEEDED any recently]

Then again, I'm the kind of person that wont even take an advil, so..

 

[GOD!]

Occurrence of autism has increased over the past century or so; I'd find numbers but I'm too tired right now!

The exact cause of the increase is unknown.

I read something in a book about this once: part of the reason for increase is misdiagnosis. In the past, autism was difficult to treat, but now we have drugs that make the kids easier to handle. So now, any strange kid gets labeled early on and medicated. Saves time and makes money.

 

[Oracle Link]

Stupid that People think this there is (luckily) no way to gain Lose Autism because it would Fundamently Change you
(im Autistic Asperger)

 

[Cyn]

Oracle Link please refrain from bumping threads that are over a decade old.