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Same thing I did for Lucas: Since Mewtwo's UpThrow sends strictly vertically, it's relatively easy to let a computer calculate the percentage it kills at against each character on each stage - and so I did. My formula is still slightly off at some points, meaning the numbers given here are not exact and should only be taken as estimates.
Each number is for perfect DI (straight left/right), lists the damage before throwing, unstaled (add 12 to get the damage after the throw) and assumes Mewtwo to be standing on the main platform (at a height that makes sense for uneven terrain: the higher part for YS/Lylat, an average height for YI etc.) For now expect the numbers to be off by about 2 points in either direction - some more, some less.
Character
| Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story |
Character
| 133% | 129% | 162% | 126% | 134% | 135% | 129% | 122% | 119% | 138% | 129% | 114% | 129% | 110% |
| 171% | 168% | 203% | 163% | 173% | 175% | 168% | 161% | 157% | 178% | 168% | 152% | 168% | 148% |
| 121% | 118% | 151% | 113% | 122% | 124% | 118% | 111% | 107% | 127% | 117% | 103% | 118% | 99% |
| 142% | 138% | 173% | 133% | 143% | 145% | 138% | 131% | 128% | 148% | 138% | 123% | 138% | 119% |
| 157% | 154% | 188% | 149% | 159% | 160% | 154% | 146% | 143% | 163% | 153% | 138% | 154% | 134% |
| 148% | 145% | 179% | 140% | 150% | 151% | 145% | 137% | 134% | 155% | 145% | 129% | 145% | 125% |
| 185% | 181% | 216% | 176% | 186% | 188% | 181% | 174% | 171% | 191% | 181% | 166% | 181% | 162% |
| 176% | 173% | 203% | 168% | 178% | 180% | 173% | 166% | 163% | 183% | 173% | 158% | 173% | 154% |
| 121% | 118% | 151% | 113% | 122% | 124% | 118% | 111% | 107% | 127% | 117% | 103% | 118% | 99% |
| 136% | 133% | 166% | 128% | 138% | 139% | 133% | 126% | 123% | 143% | 133% | 118% | 133% | 114% |
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
| 117% | 114% | 147% | 109% | 119% | 120% | 114% | 107% | 104% | 124% | 114% | 99% | 114% | 96% |
| 136% | 132% | 166% | 127% | 137% | 139% | 132% | 125% | 122% | 142% | 132% | 117% | 132% | 113% |
| 118% | 115% | 149% | 110% | 120% | 121% | 115% | 108% | 105% | 125% | 115% | 100% | 115% | 96% |
| 101% | 98% | 131% | 94% | 103% | 105% | 98% | 91% | 88% | 108% | 98% | 84% | 98% | 80% |
| 115% | 112% | 145% | 107% | 117% | 118% | 112% | 105% | 102% | 122% | 112% | 96% | 112% | 93% |
| 139% | 136% | 170% | 131% | 141% | 143% | 136% | 129% | 126% | 146% | 136% | 121% | 136% | 117% |
| 136% | 133% | 166% | 128% | 137% | 139% | 133% | 126% | 122% | 142% | 132% | 118% | 133% | 114% |
| 148% | 145% | 179% | 140% | 150% | 151% | 145% | 138% | 134% | 154% | 145% | 130% | 145% | 126% |
| 113% | 110% | 144% | 105% | 115% | 117% | 110% | 103% | 100% | 120% | 110% | 95% | 110% | 91% |
| 152% | 148% | 183% | 143% | 153% | 155% | 148% | 141% | 138% | 158% | 148% | 133% | 148% | 129% |
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
| 121% | 118% | 151% | 113% | 122% | 124% | 118% | 111% | 107% | 127% | 117% | 103% | 118% | 99% |
| 138% | 134% | 169% | 130% | 140% | 141% | 134% | 127% | 124% | 145% | 134% | 119% | 134% | 115% |
| 111% | 108% | 141% | 104% | 117% | 115% | 108% | 106% | 98% | 118% | 108% | 94% | 108% | 90% |
| 125% | 122% | 156% | 117% | 127% | 129% | 118% | 115% | 112% | 132% | 122% | 107% | 122% | 103% |
| 128% | 125% | 159% | 120% | 130% | 131% | 125% | 118% | 114% | 134% | 125% | 110% | 125% | 106% |
| 111% | 108% | 141% | 103% | 113% | 114% | 108% | 101% | 98% | 118% | 108% | 93% | 108% | 89% |
| 130% | 127% | 161% | 122% | 132% | 134% | 127% | 120% | 117% | 137% | 127% | 112% | 127% | 108% |
| 129% | 125% | 159% | 121% | 130% | 132% | 125% | 118% | 115% | 135% | 125% | 110% | 125% | 107% |
| 118% | 115% | 148% | 110% | 120% | 121% | 115% | 108% | 105% | 125% | 115% | 100% | 115% | 96% |
| 150% | 147% | 181% | 142% | 152% | 154% | 147% | 140% | 137% | 157% | 147% | 132% | 147% | 128% |
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
| 106% | 102% | 136% | 98% | 107% | 109% | 102% | 95% | 92% | 112% | 102% | 88% | 102% | 84% |
| 141% | 137% | 171% | 133% | 142% | 144% | 137% | 130% | 127% | 147% | 137% | 122% | 137% | 118% |
| 137% | 134% | 168% | 129% | 139% | 141% | 134% | 127% | 124% | 144% | 134% | 119% | 134% | 115% |
| 130% | 127% | 161% | 122% | 132% | 134% | 127% | 120% | 117% | 137% | 127% | 112% | 127% | 108% |
| 123% | 120% | 153% | 115% | 125% | 126% | 120% | 113% | 109% | 130% | 120% | 105% | 120% | 102% |
| 139% | 136% | 170% | 131% | 141% | 143% | 136% | 129% | 126% | 146% | 136% | 121% | 136% | 117% |
| 129% | 125% | 159% | 121% | 130% | 132% | 125% | 118% | 115% | 135% | 125% | 111% | 125% | 107% |
| 187% | 184% | 219% | 179% | 189% | 191% | 184% | 176% | 173% | 194% | 184% | 168% | 184% | 164% |
| 130% | 126% | 160% | 122% | 131% | 133% | 126% | 119% | 116% | 136% | 126% | 111% | 126% | 107% |
| 139% | 135% | 169% | 131% | 140% | 142% | 135% | 128% | 125% | 145% | 135% | 121% | 135% | 117% |
| 106% | 103% | 136% | 99% | 108% | 110% | 103% | 96% | 93% | 113% | 103% | 89% | 103% | 85% |
Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
I did random tests with a sample size of 10 (few, but I'm too lazy to do more) to test the accurateness of my results and averaged a difference of 2 between the actual kill percentage and the estimate. The tested character/stage combinations have been corrected in the table above.
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Character | Stage | Prediction | Actual | Difference
Bowser | BF | 132 | 133 | 1
Kirby | WW | 97 | 96 | 1
Fox | DL | 207 | 203 | 4
Squirtle | PS2 | 110 | 109 | 1
Ness | Lylat | 122 | 118 | 4
Mario | DP | 118 | 118 | 0
Mewtwo | FoD | 113 | 117 | 4
Ganon | BF | 136 | 136 | 0
Mewtwo | Norfair | 101 | 106 | 5
Lucario | FD | 128 | 128 | 0
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This should at least give a good idea of when you can kill with Mewtwo's UpThrow. If you have any corrections, suggestions or requests feel free to ask and I'll see what I can do.
Each number is for perfect DI (straight left/right), lists the damage before throwing, unstaled (add 12 to get the damage after the throw) and assumes Mewtwo to be standing on the main platform (at a height that makes sense for uneven terrain: the higher part for YS/Lylat, an average height for YI etc.) For now expect the numbers to be off by about 2 points in either direction - some more, some less.
| 133% | 129% | 162% | 126% | 134% | 135% | 129% | 122% | 119% | 138% | 129% | 114% | 129% | 110% | | 171% | 168% | 203% | 163% | 173% | 175% | 168% | 161% | 157% | 178% | 168% | 152% | 168% | 148% | | 121% | 118% | 151% | 113% | 122% | 124% | 118% | 111% | 107% | 127% | 117% | 103% | 118% | 99% | | 142% | 138% | 173% | 133% | 143% | 145% | 138% | 131% | 128% | 148% | 138% | 123% | 138% | 119% | | 157% | 154% | 188% | 149% | 159% | 160% | 154% | 146% | 143% | 163% | 153% | 138% | 154% | 134% | | 148% | 145% | 179% | 140% | 150% | 151% | 145% | 137% | 134% | 155% | 145% | 129% | 145% | 125% | | 185% | 181% | 216% | 176% | 186% | 188% | 181% | 174% | 171% | 191% | 181% | 166% | 181% | 162% | | 176% | 173% | 203% | 168% | 178% | 180% | 173% | 166% | 163% | 183% | 173% | 158% | 173% | 154% | | 121% | 118% | 151% | 113% | 122% | 124% | 118% | 111% | 107% | 127% | 117% | 103% | 118% | 99% | | 136% | 133% | 166% | 128% | 138% | 139% | 133% | 126% | 123% | 143% | 133% | 118% | 133% | 114% | Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
| 117% | 114% | 147% | 109% | 119% | 120% | 114% | 107% | 104% | 124% | 114% | 99% | 114% | 96% | | 136% | 132% | 166% | 127% | 137% | 139% | 132% | 125% | 122% | 142% | 132% | 117% | 132% | 113% | | 118% | 115% | 149% | 110% | 120% | 121% | 115% | 108% | 105% | 125% | 115% | 100% | 115% | 96% | | 101% | 98% | 131% | 94% | 103% | 105% | 98% | 91% | 88% | 108% | 98% | 84% | 98% | 80% | | 115% | 112% | 145% | 107% | 117% | 118% | 112% | 105% | 102% | 122% | 112% | 96% | 112% | 93% | | 139% | 136% | 170% | 131% | 141% | 143% | 136% | 129% | 126% | 146% | 136% | 121% | 136% | 117% | | 136% | 133% | 166% | 128% | 137% | 139% | 133% | 126% | 122% | 142% | 132% | 118% | 133% | 114% | | 148% | 145% | 179% | 140% | 150% | 151% | 145% | 138% | 134% | 154% | 145% | 130% | 145% | 126% | | 113% | 110% | 144% | 105% | 115% | 117% | 110% | 103% | 100% | 120% | 110% | 95% | 110% | 91% | | 152% | 148% | 183% | 143% | 153% | 155% | 148% | 141% | 138% | 158% | 148% | 133% | 148% | 129% | Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
| 121% | 118% | 151% | 113% | 122% | 124% | 118% | 111% | 107% | 127% | 117% | 103% | 118% | 99% | | 138% | 134% | 169% | 130% | 140% | 141% | 134% | 127% | 124% | 145% | 134% | 119% | 134% | 115% | | 111% | 108% | 141% | 104% | 117% | 115% | 108% | 106% | 98% | 118% | 108% | 94% | 108% | 90% | | 125% | 122% | 156% | 117% | 127% | 129% | 118% | 115% | 112% | 132% | 122% | 107% | 122% | 103% | | 128% | 125% | 159% | 120% | 130% | 131% | 125% | 118% | 114% | 134% | 125% | 110% | 125% | 106% | | 111% | 108% | 141% | 103% | 113% | 114% | 108% | 101% | 98% | 118% | 108% | 93% | 108% | 89% | | 130% | 127% | 161% | 122% | 132% | 134% | 127% | 120% | 117% | 137% | 127% | 112% | 127% | 108% | | 129% | 125% | 159% | 121% | 130% | 132% | 125% | 118% | 115% | 135% | 125% | 110% | 125% | 107% | | 118% | 115% | 148% | 110% | 120% | 121% | 115% | 108% | 105% | 125% | 115% | 100% | 115% | 96% | | 150% | 147% | 181% | 142% | 152% | 154% | 147% | 140% | 137% | 157% | 147% | 132% | 147% | 128% | Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
| 106% | 102% | 136% | 98% | 107% | 109% | 102% | 95% | 92% | 112% | 102% | 88% | 102% | 84% | | 141% | 137% | 171% | 133% | 142% | 144% | 137% | 130% | 127% | 147% | 137% | 122% | 137% | 118% | | 137% | 134% | 168% | 129% | 139% | 141% | 134% | 127% | 124% | 144% | 134% | 119% | 134% | 115% | | 130% | 127% | 161% | 122% | 132% | 134% | 127% | 120% | 117% | 137% | 127% | 112% | 127% | 108% | | 123% | 120% | 153% | 115% | 125% | 126% | 120% | 113% | 109% | 130% | 120% | 105% | 120% | 102% | | 139% | 136% | 170% | 131% | 141% | 143% | 136% | 129% | 126% | 146% | 136% | 121% | 136% | 117% | | 129% | 125% | 159% | 121% | 130% | 132% | 125% | 118% | 115% | 135% | 125% | 111% | 125% | 107% | | 187% | 184% | 219% | 179% | 189% | 191% | 184% | 176% | 173% | 194% | 184% | 168% | 184% | 164% | | 130% | 126% | 160% | 122% | 131% | 133% | 126% | 119% | 116% | 136% | 126% | 111% | 126% | 107% | | 139% | 135% | 169% | 131% | 140% | 142% | 135% | 128% | 125% | 145% | 135% | 121% | 135% | 117% | | 106% | 103% | 136% | 99% | 108% | 110% | 103% | 96% | 93% | 113% | 103% | 89% | 103% | 85% | Character | Battlefield | Distant Planet | Dreamland | Final Destination | Fountain of Dreams | Green Hill Zone | Lylat Cruise | Norfair | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Skyworld | Smashville | Wario Ware Inc. | Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Story | Character
I did random tests with a sample size of 10 (few, but I'm too lazy to do more) to test the accurateness of my results and averaged a difference of 2 between the actual kill percentage and the estimate. The tested character/stage combinations have been corrected in the table above.
[collapse="test data"]
Character | Stage | Prediction | Actual | Difference
Bowser | BF | 132 | 133 | 1
Kirby | WW | 97 | 96 | 1
Fox | DL | 207 | 203 | 4
Squirtle | PS2 | 110 | 109 | 1
Ness | Lylat | 122 | 118 | 4
Mario | DP | 118 | 118 | 0
Mewtwo | FoD | 113 | 117 | 4
Ganon | BF | 136 | 136 | 0
Mewtwo | Norfair | 101 | 106 | 5
Lucario | FD | 128 | 128 | 0
This should at least give a good idea of when you can kill with Mewtwo's UpThrow. If you have any corrections, suggestions or requests feel free to ask and I'll see what I can do.
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