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"NOBODY WANTED DRAGON QUEST CONTENT WHY CAN'T SAKURAI LISTEN TO THE FANS?"
I mean. I never thought that nobody would want DQ content. I always knew that it was the most likely second Square character. The Mana and Crono series don’t have much draw to them, Sora is owned by Disney, and Geno is only asked for within the Smash community. Honestly, I never thought he’d make it in unless he was on the base roster. The only hope for him is if they do a second season pass and do another bonus character in between. They could even parody the Plant trailer for his reveal. But that’s all a BIG if as we have no clue if he will do a second season, and many signs point to no.
At this point, I don't care who gets in, as long as they aren't depressingly lame. I'm still hoping for Crash and Doomguy, but as long as the last 2 characters are remotely interesting or unique, I'm fine.
Crash and Dark Souls. I’m gonna keep emphasizing it. Hey, I might be wrong. It’s not like I have insider information. But, like what I said about Dragon Quest and Banjo before E3, they make the most sense when I try to think like Sakurai, or at least, what we can guess he thinks like from interviews and habit.
 
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And Happy Belated Birthday to Yellowlord Yellowlord hope we get Yuri Lowell in Smash one of these days :)
Speaking of:


Do we all kinda unanimously agree that we're getting character 4 shown off during the September Direct?



Because otherwise, the only Direct left is the winter one, or TGA again, and I doubt we're going to get another 2-fer.


We could get a 'surprise' reveal via a "Final presentation" in Feb, but I think the winter Direct would be the final presentation.
Nope. I fully expect characters 4 & 5 to be revealed in a Final Smash Direct in December. I don't even think enough work has been done on them considering the team has been busy with Joker, DQ Hero, and Banjo-Kazooie in addition to Stage Builder & Home-Run Contest (data mined BTW).

It's more likely that characters 4 & 5 have only recently started development and won't be in a presentable state until December-ish hence why a double reveal is likely. I also believe it'll take that long because Boss Battles is going to be added back (like Brawl) with new bosses added in (a Minecraft boss like Verge hinted at).

I still believe we'll get "New Content Approaching" videos for both of the characters revealed here in both August (for Erdrick) and November (for Banjo). Maybe at the end of Banjo's overview video, we get an announcement for the December Final Smash Direct.
 
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Happy Happy Birthday @ShinyLegendary make it a good one my dude.

And Happy Belated Birthday to Yellowlord Yellowlord hope we get Yuri Lowell in Smash one of these days :)
Nope. I fully expect characters 4 & 5 to be revealed in a Final Smash Direct in December. I don't even think enough work has been done on them considering the team has been busy with Joker, DQ Hero, and Banjo-Kazooie in addition to Stage Builder & Home-Run Contest (data mined BTW).

It's more likely that characters 4 & 5 have only recently started development and won't be in a presentable state until December-ish hence why a double reveal is likely. I also believe it'll take that long because Boss Battles is going to be added back (like Brawl) with new bosses added in (a Minecraft boss like Verge hinted at).

I still believe we'll get "New Content Approaching" videos for both of the characters revealed here in both August (for Erdrick) and November (for Banjo). Maybe at the end of Banjo's overview video, we get an announcement for the December Final Smash Direct.
Dude. They’re ready enough to have gameplay trailers. Why on earth would they drop that late. I’m betting earlier on those two. July and September/October. Character 4 will get shown in the September direct and character 5 will be shown off in Early January/February.

So what are the chances of Banjo getting an alt where Kazooie gets her dragon appearance from Tooie?
Small. But possible. Also I WANT!!!
 
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"NOBODY WANTED DRAGON QUEST CONTENT WHY CAN'T SAKURAI LISTEN TO THE FANS?"
Man who would have ever guessed Dragon Quest, a cultural phenomenon in Japan would do better than Banjo Kazooie there.

Truly a black mark on the characters inclusion. I bet Sakurai regrets putting him in now.
 
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Man who would have ever guessed Dragon Quest, a cultural phenomenon in Japan would do better than Banjo Kazooie there.

Truly a black mark on the characters inclusion. I bet Sakurai regrets putting him in now.
This is what my American iPhone says the view counts are at.
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As expected. Dragon Quest is for the Japanese fanbase primarily.
 

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Happy Happy Birthday @ShinyLegendary make it a good one my dude.

And Happy Belated Birthday to Yellowlord Yellowlord hope we get Yuri Lowell in Smash one of these days :)
Nope. I fully expect characters 4 & 5 to be revealed in a Final Smash Direct in December. I don't even think enough work has been done on them considering the team has been busy with Joker, DQ Hero, and Banjo-Kazooie in addition to Stage Builder & Home-Run Contest (data mined BTW).

It's more likely that characters 4 & 5 have only recently started development and won't be in a presentable state until December-ish hence why a double reveal is likely. I also believe it'll take that long because Boss Battles is going to be added back (like Brawl) with new bosses added in (a Minecraft boss like Verge hinted at).

I still believe we'll get "New Content Approaching" videos for both of the characters revealed here in both August (for Erdrick) and November (for Banjo). Maybe at the end of Banjo's overview video, we get an announcement for the December Final Smash Direct.
I sincerely hope you are wrong about the release dates. That would imply serious development hell at some point.

I'm thinking Hero is next month with Banjo in September/October, personally. November would be a quite late Fall release.
 
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This is what my American iPhone says the view counts are at.
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As expected. Dragon Quest is for the Japanese fanbase primarily.
Pretty much sums up why revealing both was a smart move. Reveal the Japan pick and the west pick at the same time so both crowds are satisfied.
 

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Last two are most likely out of the question due to their directors.

As for Okami, it is Amaterasu. She would be my 2nd Capcom choice after Phoenix, but I am not sure if she has much of a shot.
 

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I sincerely hope you are wrong about the release dates. That would imply serious development hell at some point.

I'm thinking Hero is next month with Banjo in September/October, personally. November would be a quite late Fall release.
From a business sense, Summer indicates July 1st-September 30th and Fall indicates October 1st-December 31st.

If DQ was slated for July they would have said it but it seems to be more likely for August, possibly even September. There's a lot of work that needs to be done balancing the characters, testing out for bugs in addition to all the other content being added in. Not as simple as one might think.
 

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Doomguy
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Scorpion
Sans
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Quote (Cave Story)
Steve (?)
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Sora (?)
Ezio
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Dante (?)
Fortnite Guy also. I couldn't edit the post, so I'm just adding to it
 
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Using my 300,000,000 IQ, I have successfully narrowed down the possible remaining DLC Choices

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Crash
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Professor Layton
Doomguy
Ryu Hyabusy
Scorpion
Sans
Hollow Knight Guy
Quote (Cave Story)
Steve (?)
Master Chief (?)
Sora (?)
Ezio
Resident Evil Rep
Okami Dog Thing
Travis Touchdown (?)
Dante (?)
Ok. I know i’ve been actively supporting Dark Souls here for months, but I still can’t figure out which character from the game Sakurai would pick. Solaire is the most popular heroic character and has his own Amiibo, Artorias is by far the most popular boss and is always getting all kinds of merch, and the games protagonist is the Chosen Undead, who feels kind of generic due to the nature of Dark Souls as a game. How do we solve this puzzle?
 

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From a business sense, Summer indicates July 1st-September 30th and Fall indicates October 1st-December 31st.

If DQ was slated for July they would have said it but it seems to be more likely for August, possibly even September. There's a lot of work that needs to be done balancing the characters, testing out for bugs in addition to all the other content being added in. Not as simple as one might think.
Well obviously not, I never implied as such, but considering they've been worked on gradually since November that seems to be a rather late release schedule. I don't see them making the February deadline they doubled down on at your rate.

At worst Hero will be just before E3 in late July/very early August. No way it is September.
 
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Question is, do they fit these three factors?
1. Timing
2. Relevancy
3. Requests
I don’t really know how much requests factor into it. I can see Banjo being in because of the ballot. But Joker and Hero? Well, P5 wasn’t out yet and Dragon Quest was probably like Castlevania, where people were endlessly suggesting different characters from different games. So the series was on his mind, but no one specific character. Joker was just a character Sakurai really wanted to do, by all evidence.

My point is, each of those factors apply differently and in different amounts to each of our three confirmed characters. I could see the argument if it was just Hero and Joker, but Banjo kind of throws a wrench into it. But let’s look at things a bit more in depth.

Crash Bandicoot almost certainly has requests. There’s no way to know for sure how well he did in the ballot because the results aren’t public. But he always shows up on people’s online lists and Crash has always been super popular in both markets. He has relevancy thanks to the remakes, with CTR coming very soon, and signs pointing to a potential new Crash platforming project from Activision next year. This also has him score high on timing because this year and the next is probably getting back to back Bandicoot action, because Activision has a rule to release one kid friendly game a year. The team at Vicarious Visions has had plenty of time at this point to develop a new Crash Platformer. Bottom line, Crash actually scores very well on all measures.

As for Dark Souls, the series is extremely popular in both regions. And is a staple of modern gaming, but the series is said to be on indefinite hold as FromSoftware has said they want to work on other projects. So the series doesn’t really fit well on timing, but scores too high on the other categories to dismiss.
 

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Well obviously not, I never implied as such, but considering they've been worked on gradually since November that seems to be a rather late release schedule. I don't see them making the February deadline they doubled down on at your rate.

At worst Hero will be just before E3 in late July/very early August. No way it is September.
They would make the February deadline. Just that the last two are released at the same time similar to what happened in Smash 4. Both 4 & 5 would be worked on together so it would make sense for both to release February.
 

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The only character I would despise to see as DLC is Bubsy.

Even if some people like the character (although they may be rare exceptions), I won’t ever pay 6€ for him.
 

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They would make the February deadline. Just that the last two are released at the same time similar to what happened in Smash 4. Both 4 & 5 would be worked on together so it would make sense for both to release February.
They only did that because the 3DS had a hard limit for patches/software updates. I don't see the point of doing that unless character 4 & 5 share something in common that revealing them together would make sense and/or be fun to see.

Possible, but I don't think it is likely.
 
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