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What's the point of holding off reveals just to release two fighters at the same time? You'd want each DLC character to have their time under spotlight, not share it with someone else.

Plus, this theme thing limits the character choices for no reason.
Yeah, I’m someone who doesn’t believe in themes.

I just imagine Nintendo and Sakurai going with the picks they could license or found strongly fitting.

Something which honestly can be impossible to guess from our perspective as a whole.
 

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When it's time for Nintendo/Sakurai to talk about the next batch of DLC fighters, do you want them to reveal all characters from the get go or space them out again like the first Fighters Pass?
It won't happen, but I want them to reveal all the characters at the same time. Then I won't have to wait months to see if I'm disappointed or not.
The trailer opens with a television screen showing off all of the stuff that Nintendo made, like the Ultra Hand, Love Hotels, probably the Ten Billion Barrel, as the trailer goes on, the timeline that’s transparent slowly moves the camera upwards until it stops at the end of the timeline at something silhouetted, and the TV turns off.

The camera opens up to show The smash envelop laying on a wooden table, a bit dusty and tired. A sound of a person walking towards it appears, and we can only see his shadow over the envelope.

As he picks it up, and speaks some random quote, the camera slowly moves upwards to reveal a man looking similar to that of Napoleon (Like the cover of the hanafuda cards), and then they reveal his face. The camera zooms oUT, he strikes some pose, and the title says.

“HANAFUDA GAMBLES ON!”

Then the Smash Ultimate logo shows, then having a “Smash Ultimate X (the logo you probably see on the box of the old hanafuda cards).

Then the trailer ends.
This is pretty much the exact reveal trailer for Daitoryo I thought of a long time ago. It'd make sense, since it would start off showing Nintendo did other things before creating video games, and it would end off on the first thing they created.
 

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This is such a great idea, I actually really want to see this because the possibilities are endless
What's the point of holding off reveals just to release two fighters at the same time? You'd want each DLC character to have their time under spotlight, not share it with someone else.

Plus, this theme thing limits the character choices for no reason.
Hmmm. Opinions seem mixed
 

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M'LADS!

MY SWITCH HAS ARRIVED!

IT'S OFFICIAL

I HAVE ULTIMATE NOW, BABY!

I'll make sure to keep y'all updated with my experiences with Ultimate for the next few days. got me alotta characters to unlock.

Oh, and no fighter's pass or Plant just yet. I'll get those at a later date, probs around christmas
Just as a heads up, if you redeem your Coins for purchasing Ultimate, you essentially get three dollars off any purchase on the eShop. This would make Piranha Plant only $1.99 if you wanted to get it. :p
 

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Hello. I’m Masahiro Sakurai. From Sora Ltd. Here to announce more DLC for Super Smash Bros Ultimate.

Without further ado. I’d like to introduce you to... Challenger Two Packs!

Think of them as miniature fighter passes. They won’t release as often. But when they do, both fighters contained within will be available what’s more, the fighters within will share a theme or rivalry from gaming history! Like our first pack, Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton!
and their trailer starts with
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M'LADS!

MY SWITCH HAS ARRIVED!

IT'S OFFICIAL

I HAVE ULTIMATE NOW, BABY!

I'll make sure to keep y'all updated with my experiences with Ultimate for the next few days. got me alotta characters to unlock.

Oh, and no fighter's pass or Plant just yet. I'll get those at a later date, probs around christmas
Oh yeah, if you want to unlock certain characters faster than others, I suggest looking up the Classic unlock routes and the Smash mode unlock order (it's not random) so you know how to unlock them.
 
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Oh yeah, if you want to unlock certain characters faster than others, I suggest looking up the Classic unlock routes and the Smash mode unlock order (it's not random) so you know how to unlock them.
World of Light's super easy mode is a good idea if you want the extra menu themes and characters. Keep a guide on hand so you know where to look if you missed someone Ramen Tengoku Ramen Tengoku
 
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World of Light's super easy mode is a good idea if you want the extra menu themes and characters. Keep a guide on hand so you know where to look if you missed someone
I honestly wouldn't suggest doing WoL for character unlocks (outside the ones earlier in the game) b/c it honestly would take way longer for you to go through all of it and unlock the characters than just playing Classic or normal Smash.

Like I'm speeding through WoL rn, and I'm not unlocking characters fast at all.

It is good for the music though.
 
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Hello. I’m Masahiro Sakurai. From Sora Ltd. Here to announce more DLC for Super Smash Bros Ultimate.

Without further ado. I’d like to introduce you to... Challenger Two Packs!

Think of them as miniature fighter passes. They won’t release as often. But when they do, both fighters contained within will be available what’s more, the fighters within will share a theme or rivalry from gaming history! Like our first pack, Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton!
I'd rather just have a fighter every two months than two fighters every four months. You don't get any benefits from holding them off like this as a producer or consumer. It's a lose-lose.
 
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I honestly wouldn't suggest doing WoL for character unlocks (outside the ones earlier in the game) b/c it honestly would take way longer for you to go through all of it and unlock the characters than just playing Classic or normal Smash.

Like I'm speeding through WoL rn, and I'm not unlocking characters fast at all.

It is good for the music though.
Yeah. My logic was that it kills two birds in one stone. If you want the fighters immediately, you're gonna have to work no matter what.
 

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Hell, if I wanted more Nintendo characters as DLC Id be disappointed too.

But I want layton and he is never happening so Im disappointed all the time
If we're getting more new third party companies joining in then I think Level-5 has a decent shot in getting a character in there, their one of the companies that Nintendo has had a consistently good history and support with since the DS era and had pretty good character support during the fighter ballot period so I'm fairly sure they will consider them at least.

The only thing I'm kind of worried about is that they may end up prioritizing Yokai Watch over the Layton series though if they do get a character...
I guess I know now how Banjo fans must have felt last year and the first half of this year...
 
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If we're getting more new third party companies joining in then I think Level-5 has a decent shot in getting a character in there, their one of the companies that Nintendo has had a consistently good history and support with since the DS era and had pretty good character support during the fighter ballot period so I'm fairly sure they will consider them at least.

The only thing I'm kind of worried about is that they may end up prioritizing Yokai Watch over the Layton series though...
I guess I know now how Banjo fans must have felt last year and the first half of this year...
Being a layton fan is suffering, For sure
 

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Another FF7 Remake trailer:
Reno looking great lol.
 
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If we're getting more new third party companies joining in then I think Level-5 has a decent shot in getting a character in there, their one of the companies that Nintendo has had a consistently good history and support with since the DS era and had pretty good character support during the fighter ballot period so I'm fairly sure they will consider them at least.

The only thing I'm kind of worried about is that they may end up prioritizing Yokai Watch over the Layton series though if they do get a character...
I guess I know now how Banjo fans must have felt last year and the first half of this year...
Man, I'm not even a Layton fan(though I have a sibling who is.) and that would a bit disappointing. Not to mention, out of all the Pokemon rivals to be added, and it ain't even Digimon?
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Nothing against Yokai Watch, but c'mon.
 
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If we're getting more new third party companies joining in then I think Level-5 has a decent shot in getting a character in there, their one of the companies that Nintendo has had a consistently good history and support with since the DS era and had pretty good character support during the fighter ballot period so I'm fairly sure they will consider them at least.

The only thing I'm kind of worried about is that they may end up prioritizing Yokai Watch over the Layton series though if they do get a character...
I guess I know now how Banjo fans must have felt last year and the first half of this year...
I think it's a matter of weighing the reaction of the immediate Japanese audience against the international one.

Professor Layton was a huge success in multiple counties. Except Belgium because of the Dutch... (That's a saga for later)
Yokai Watch on the other hand, completely eclipsed Pokemon in Japan but by the time it came to the west, we got sick of people saying how it was gonna kill Pokemon and never elaborating why.

Professor Layton is a Japanese take on the Victorian Gentleman Detective whereas Yokai Watch is a Slice of Life about a Japanese kid who can see monsters. It's a general feel against a specialised one.
 

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Also here's another great track I found.


GenesisKeys really out here putting in work.
 

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M'LADS!

MY SWITCH HAS ARRIVED!

IT'S OFFICIAL

I HAVE ULTIMATE NOW, BABY!

I'll make sure to keep y'all updated with my experiences with Ultimate for the next few days. got me alotta characters to unlock.

Oh, and no fighter's pass or Plant just yet. I'll get those at a later date, probs around christmas
Now I'm the last one here who didn't have a switch and smash ultimate :sadeyes::grin:
 

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I think it's a matter of weighing the reaction of the immediate Japanese audience against the international one.

Professor Layton was a huge success in multiple counties. Except Belgium because of the Dutch... (That's a saga for later)
Yokai Watch on the other hand, completely eclipsed Pokemon in Japan but by the time it came to the west, we got sick of people saying how it was gonna kill Pokemon and never elaborating why.

Professor Layton is a Japanese take on the Victorian Gentleman Detective whereas Yokai Watch is a Slice of Life about a Japanese kid who can see monsters. It's a general feel against a specialised one.
Yokai watch has lowered in popularity in Japan apparently
 

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I think it's a matter of weighing the reaction of the immediate Japanese audience against the international one.

Professor Layton was a huge success in multiple counties. Except Belgium because of the Dutch... (That's a saga for later)
Yokai Watch on the other hand, completely eclipsed Pokemon in Japan but by the time it came to the west, we got sick of people saying how it was gonna kill Pokemon and never elaborating why.

Professor Layton is a Japanese take on the Victorian Gentleman Detective whereas Yokai Watch is a Slice of Life about a Japanese kid who can see monsters. It's a general feel against a specialised one.
Yeah I suppose it would make more sense to prioritize Layton first due to its international popularity, I think Sakurai himself stated that it may be only natural to prioritize the franchise that enjoys more widespread popularity, which was why Final Fantasy got a character before Dragon Quest.

But still, I suppose its best to be prepared for anything I guess...
 

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Yokai watch has lowered in popularity in Japan apparently
I have heard that but I'm not sure if it's a sharp dip or just a "the hype wore off" one.

Remember those articles that though Pokemon was dead from after the first movie until Pokemon Go? Wondering if it's like that.
 

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One thing you could do for Church route is only use the church employees. Could make for a fun time.
Hm, considering I barely used them that could be a good idea to spice it up. The only thing is they're staggered in their recruitments with some like Cyril being stuck until late due to reasons, so I'd have to use the students to fill in until they're available.
 
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Hm, considering I barely used them that could be a good idea to spice it up. The only thing is they're staggered in their recruitments with some like Cyril being stuck until late due to reasons, so I'd have to use the students to fill in until they're available.
Or just use Byleth until you start recruiting ;)
 

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Let's think Demographics for a moment.

If Smash is expanding what series can we say are big and unrepresented?

As long as they're a game series all is fair game, even Fortnite.
 
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Let's think Demographics for a moment.

If Smash is expanding what series can we say are big and unrepresented?

As long as they're a game series all is fair game, even Fortnite.
Minecraft, Fortnite, FNaF, Call of Duty, Halo, Kingdom Hearts, anime.

Really, nothing limits this man.
 

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First person shooters are one of the big cornerstones of gaming in the west but niche in Japan (that's how you can tell PSASBR was made in the states) so there's a lot to take from there.

Doom
Half Life
Halo
Gears of War
Team Fortress 2
Overwatch
Bioshock
Borderlands

All of them have personality and a certain design to them.

Counterstrike, Call of Duty and Battlefield are massive but I don't think you can represent them as their "style" is to directly copy reality. Only character I can think of is Captain Price's moustache.
 
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Theres a statement floating around from Furukawa about the crossover, and how they want to continue to expand on it and bring more fans in.

If the President of the company is expressing how the idea is to be more and more inclusive, it seems to me that continue 3rd party presence is likely coming from the top down, but that Sakurai has free reign over which 3rd parties.

I don’t find that surprising at all. Though, I don’t think it means everyone and anyone is fair game. Like, could he pick Fortnite? Sure. Will he? I’ll believe it when I see it.

Still think he’ll stick to franchises that will engage Nintendo fans in those IP, as well as bring in fans of those IP to Nintendo. It makes sense. It doesn’t mean 3rd party franchises that have more Nintendo presence than others don’t have a chance or something, but I think there’s something to be said about series that don’t have as much of a Nintendo following benefitting from this mindset.
 
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Counterstrike, Call of Duty and Battlefield are massive but I don't think you can represent them as their "style" is to directly copy reality. Only character I can think of is Captain Price's moustache.
TFW the Call of Duty stage is an airport.
 
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Here's the Furukawa statement in question.

IntelliHeath said:
Remember a quote from Nintendo President

Shuntaro Furukawa said:
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate will be released in December.
This title will be the largest-ever game in the Smash Bros. series in every aspect, with an overwhelming amount of content, bringing together famous franchises’ characters in what will be the gaming industry’s one of the greatest collaboration titles. What sets the Smash Bros. series apart is that the basic rules and operations of the game are very simple, yet for those who want to pursue the game it offers a real depth of gameplay. The games are welcoming, since people who seldom play have a good chance of witnessing the appearance of certain elements they recognize, so we are working to spark the interest of a wide range of consumers, and not just fans of the Smash Bros. series.
The Smash Bros. series titles are special to our company because it is the place where the characters of Nintendo’s main titles come together. Many consumers discover Nintendo games they never knew about through the Smash Bros. series, so if Smash Bros. is spread wide across our consumer base, it will, by extension, also enhance the appeal of our overall IP.
So that's probably why they want to draw another franchises' fans to become more familiar with Nintendo franchises or games. SO MORE THIRD PARTY!

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/181031_2e.pdf

That's probably what Nintendo are doing right now and allows Sakurai to pick certain characters as he deemed it to fitting in Smash Bros Universe.
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Gears is a third person shooter, though.

That said, I do want more excuses for Sakurai to tell me to buy an Xbox to play Master Chief's original games.
Ah you're right.

Speaking of 3rd person shooter games, that also includes

Resident Evil (Capcom's already on board)
Dabbing Simulator
Tomb Raider
Max Payne
 
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Unpopular opinion i want fortnite in smash just because the lobby music would get in.
 
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