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True kill confirm?

joltekz

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dair to up b at 41-46%

if you guys already knew about this, feel free to tell me so i can delete the post.

Kinda new to smash in general so if this isn't true or true only if they don't tech, please let me know aswell
it tested with some friends from my local scene and regardless of di or airdodge it seems to work.
 
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Rickster

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I actually got one of these today on a Ganondorf whose shield broke.

He died to it at 35% :secretkpop:

It can be teched though. The reason it kills earlier than the normal Elevator is because they get popped up from the Dair, which causes the first hit to send them into the sweetspot when it normally wouldn't. I wanna say that this is probably one of, if not the strongest punish Zelda has.

I believe the combo %s for every character are right when the Dair starts sending them into tumble. @evmaxy54 has a chart somewhere with that info.
 
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joltekz

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oh alright, the tech window is pretty small though right?

also did this work pre-patch?

edit: I have a replay where I do it twice, I'll upload it later
 
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Rickster

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oh alright, the tech window is pretty small though right?

also did this work pre-patch?

edit: I have a replay where I do it twice, I'll upload it later
I think the tech window for grounded meteors is pretty much right when you get hit.

And yes, it's been a thing ever since Dair got its landing lag decreased. The %s and weights were even stricter before then.
 

joltekz

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Oh damn I never knew that.

yeah that's a pretty hard punish.

new zelda main here, sorry for stating something everyone already knew lmao
 

KlicKlac

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You can tech the Dair so you don't bounce in the air. But if they don't react in time, it can lead to a quick elevator.
 
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