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True Detective...the best show on TV

DragonRob20

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Sooo anybody here has been watching HBO's True Detective? A fantastic, dark, crime anthology drama about Woody Harrelson and Mathew McConaughey trying to solve murders that spread thru a 17 year story with back and forth events during the 17 year stretch. Such fantastic acting by both men and just a disturbing show that cringe but worth checking out if anybody hasn't seen it.


But any fans here lets talk about it :D
 

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I've been following it, as it happens.

The acting, writing, direction, and pretty much everything else has been superb stuff. Out of everything, I've derived a lot of enjoyment out of Cohle's grandiose spiels about Life, the Universe, and Everything (both because of the prose and for McConaughey's velvety delivery). Though the rest is great stuff, including the unfolding of the Rust-Marty partnership, the disturbing and forlorn visuals, the intrigue of the case, and the often pervasive atmosphere of dread.

It's all written by one guy (Nic Pizzolatto), and directed by another (Cary Joji Fukunaga), which accounts for the strong, unified vision at work here. It's kind of more impressive given that Pizzolatto's only credits prior to True Detective was one novel and two episodes on AMC's The Killing. This therefore marks his debut as a showrunner, and he's been handling things deftly up to this point, IMO.

Another interesting facet concerns all the King in Yellow stuff:

[collapse=The King In Yellow]As it happens, the King in Yellow is a book of short stories written by Robert W. Chambers, first published in 1895. The book is named after a fictional play from the same title - whosoever makes it to (or simply reads) Act II onward will be driven to madness from the authentic truths revealed therein about the universe and existence.

The King in Yellow short stories are notable for having had a great influence on HP Lovecraft and his "Cthulhu Mythos".

Carcosa, another oft-mentioned term in True Detective, originally hails from the work of Ambrose Pierce; Chambers borrowed and elaborated on the Carcosa themes from Pierce (among other things).

Here's an excerpt from the King in Yellow play, describing the strange, otherworldly city of Carcosa:

[collapse=Cassilda's Song]
Along the shore the cloud waves break,
The twin suns sink behind the lake,
The shadows lengthen
In Carcosa.
Strange is the night where black stars rise,
And strange moons circle through the skies,
But stranger still is
Lost Carcosa.
Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in
Dim Carcosa.
Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
Shall dry and die in
Lost Carcosa.
—"Cassilda's Song" in The King in Yellow Act 1, Scene 2

(Fun Fact: Reggie LeDoux mentioned that the "black stars are rising" when speaking to Rust, prior to being killed)[/collapse][/collapse]

What's smart about the show (and as I believe Pizzolatto has stated) is that you don't need to know about the background of the King in Yellow mythos to appreciate or understand True Detective. It remains to the viewer to research this stuff on their own, and thereby gain a new lens through which to examine the show.

Sadly, given that this is an anthology, only two episodes remain before Cohle and Hart's story concludes. I'm looking forward to seeing the case resolve once and for all (or not, in the event that Cohle's nihilistic views are rewarded ;)).
 

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Such a shame. I really love the chemistry Cohle and Hart have. Probably the best non-buddy cop duo I seen in a long time in any form of entertainment.
On the other hand, given how well Pizzolatto has handled this first season, I'm totally on board for whatever he has in store for Season Two and beyond. 8D
 

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Agreed :D. May I also say, the episode "Who goes there" That final act was the most beautiful use of cinematography I seen in any tv show ever 0_0
That was very cool. I've seen some debate online on whether that truly was a single shot, or if there were phantom edits here and there. But it remains an impressive sequence nonetheless.

I also generally dig the Louisiana bayou backdrops used in the show (it is actually filmed on location, and Pizzolatto apparently is a Louisiana native). The out-of-the-way backroads locales they use always have a lot of character to them. :)

By the way, what are you thinking as to the exact nature and context of the killings? Is the King in Yellow stuff actually rooted in the supernatural? Is it simply an occult sex ring (with apparent pedophilia involved), and with powerful people aiding to keep it secret, even after all these years? What outcome do you think is most likely and/or which would you most prefer?

Myself, I'd be game for any of these scenarios (supernatural, sex cults, unsolved mystery). If they do go the supernatural route, though, I hope they do so subtly, as they have for much of this first season so far.

Also, I find this show very reminiscent of NBC's Hannibal. If you're into great acting/writing/cinematography and haunting/surreal visuals (much, much more surreal in Hannibal than in TD), it might be up your alley. As the title suggests, it's a modernized retelling of the Hannibal Lecter saga; gifted and mentally troubled profiler Will Graham aids the FBI while paying visits to Doctor Hannibal Lecter, a psychologist and equally gifted criminal profiler working in the FBI - who also moonlights as a cannibal and serial killer.

It's very opulent and rich in tone and aesthetics. Lots of surreal, dream-like imagery, and a very engaging storyline, particularly since you know what Lecter really is (and the characters don't). The first season was 13 episodes, and the 13-ep second season will be starting on Friday (geez, already!). You should know that Hannibal is less focused on the forensics and police work (like TD is), and much more about the psychology of its characters. It's still very good, especially for a network show.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw that suggestion out there, in case you haven't seen it and/or are interested. ;)
 
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