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Top Players & Videos by Character v3.5

Vixen

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Where do I sign up? DMG fan grill in da house



1) You dont know what your talking about.
2) Your character is fine.

Sorry Vixen I cant take you seriously. </3 Axe has proven to be the only really dominant solid player in AZ atm. There are a few with really good potential to take names but they have yet to imo (Luv you AZ for realz) . Beating 2nd string AZ doesnt mean much to me and shouldnt mean much to you either unless its a milestone for you....

Come to Socal and drown in pools im not lending you floaties.
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Follow my example and know your place.
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Until you do something impressive that turns people heads without you sounding off your blow horn just plz stop posting :) When I first saw this post i felt entitled to being on it in some form or shape due to my ego and how good I think I am but honestly me begging to be on it would devalue my placement.

Friendly Tip just link YT channel for Kayb and let him know when new videos are uploading. Thats what I have done for Socal <3
I know a lot more about my character than you do. Get off your high horse. Want me to play Socal players? Come to AZ. I dislike your state, and really don't want to travel to Cali anymore. Nothing against your players, I just really dislike Cali.

WE all know about you. WE have all Seen your videos you link stuff all the time. Ever take a second to ponder why despite having multiple videos your still not on the list?

1. Axe
2. Medz
3. Oksas
4. Heysuess
5. Neon
6. SanchAZ
7. Ic3
8. ForteFreak
9. SS
------------------> 10. Vixen <------------------------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here's_Your_Sign
That list is highly inaccurate, almost all of AZ will tell you that. Here's why:

This list was made when I was inactive due to work, and lacks Silly Kyle who is unretired.
SS no longer plays this game, and when he did. I 2-0ed him in tournament. His placement is largely due to Heyseuss being heavily biased.
I historically have beat Oksas more than he's beaten me. In fact, he's only recently started to beat me, with me taking the most recent set last Saturday.
I have only ever once lost to FF in tournament, and I knocked him out of the tournament in losers the same day.
I've met up with Neon twice in bracket. Once was a close set in 3.02, the second time, I beat him 3-1.

As of last week's results, I'll likely be placed around #6/7.

I'm "not on the list" because in 3.5 I initially lacked suficient footage. Especially since Zman failed to upload a lot of the videos he recorded, so I only had stream archives. Now that I have sufficient footage, AND several people have vouched for my skill as a player, there's no reason for me not to be on the list. I'm easily one of the best.

ZSS is lower mid tier.
Mediocre at best.
She is a difficult character to use.
Her recovery is bad.
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^Yes.

Beating ipk literally means nothing because Vixen deems it so.
I am garbage player.
Everyone who thinks I am good is also a garbage player.
Vixen is God.
^But this ****? I never said, nor implied ANY of this. I can understand finding me annoying, that's on you. However blatantly twisting things I've said is just not cool. If we're have a problem, we can take it to PM.
 
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Venom_909

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I know a lot more about my character than you do. Get off your high horse. Want me to play Socal players? Come to AZ. I dislike your state, and really don't want to travel to Cali anymore. Nothing against your players, I just really dislike Cali.



That list is highly inaccurate, almost all of AZ will tell you that. Here's why:


I've met up with Neon twice in bracket. Once was a close set in 3.02, the second time, I beat him 3-1.

As of last week's results, I'll likely be placed around #6/7.

Now that I have sufficient footage, AND several people have vouched for my skill as a player, there's no reason for me not to be on the list. I'm easily one of the best.
"I'm easily one of the best" - Vixen 2015
You got some hardcore Delusions of Grandeur imo.

Playing Jason Waterfallz you can see the potential and ability the character has. IF your watching scrublord69 play fox im sure you would think hes a terrible character <3

Ive said it once ill say it 100 times. AZ is top heavy and by top heavy i mean top 3 are the only players that have some sort of consistency / threat. Even Oksas is debatable. Axe / Medz are the only ones who have proven their worth against OoS. Socal Showed up and made this clear imo.

Neon placed like 9th at dehydration. Hes fallen off quite a bit and I hope he returns to do something impressive. Beating him means nothing to me. I beat him in 3.02 when he was in his "prime" and im a mediocre player at best.

Axe / Medz / And soon hopefully Oksas if he steps it up are the players i currently respect as viable threats.

Stay free Vixen your blow horn is out of air should get a refill or give it some rest <3
 

Vixen

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"I'm easily one of the best" - Vixen 2015
You got some hardcore Delusions of Grandeur imo.

Playing Jason Waterfallz you can see the potential and ability the character has. IF your watching scrublord69 play fox im sure you would think hes a terrible character <3

Ive said it once ill say it 100 times. AZ is top heavy and by top heavy i mean top 3 are the only players that have some sort of consistency / threat. Even Oksas is debatable. Axe / Medz are the only ones who have proven their worth against OoS. Socal Showed up and made this clear imo.

Neon placed like 9th at dehydration. Hes fallen off quite a bit and I hope he returns to do something impressive. Beating him means nothing to me. I beat him in 3.02 when he was in his "prime" and im a mediocre player at best.

Axe / Medz / And soon hopefully Oksas if he steps it up are the players i currently respect as viable threats.

Stay free Vixen your blow horn is out of air should get a refill or give it some rest <3
I'm not free, but whatever floats your boat.
 

Boiko

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Personally, I don't rate people based on their results within their region unless it's constantly seeing new players. These are the people you play with frequently. You're going in knowing their habits. You're not necessarily forced to adapt nearly as hard as you would playing against someone new for the first time. If someone performs well in region and outside of region, you know they're a good player.

Idk, maybe that's just me.

In other words, this whole debate is silly. Just post your videos if you want to share them, but don't just do it because you want to be on some list. That's a bad goal to work toward.
 

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Uh yeah, there's quite a bit of unnecessary hostility in here. Why do tha ZSS players gotta make it like a cat fight. Tone it down and try to be more respectful when arguing that someone isn't a top player of a character please.
 

Oracle

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I don't really want to get into this discussion, but can we talk about this?
I dislike your state, and really don't want to travel to Cali anymore. Nothing against your players, I just really dislike Cali.
You live in AZ, which is effectively just all the bad parts of Cali without the beaches. How do you not like California? I've been to almost all the states in the country and it definitely is in my top 3. It has great weather, beaches, and perhaps most importantly,

What else do you want from in a state?

On topic, I would just like to leave with a quote from the Geto Boys: "Real gansta type players don't flex nuts; cuz real gangsta type players know they got 'em"
 
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Vixen

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Your decent. But by no means are you a top lvl player in my eyes. Sorry
Never said I was a top level player, but I can sure as hell hang with the best. I've taken sets, and games a'plenty in my time.

"I'm easily one of the best." was in reference to the character I play.

I don't really want to get into this discussion, but can we talk about this?

You live in AZ, which is effectively just all the bad parts of Cali without the beaches. How do you not like California? I've been to almost all the states in the country and it definitely is in my top 3. It has great weather, beaches, and perhaps most importantly,

What else do you want from in a state?

On topic, I would just like to leave with a quote from the Geto Boys: "Real gansta type players don't flex nuts; cuz real gangsta type players know they got 'em"
I dislike where I live too, but at least it's relatively comfortable living here. I dislike driving in cali, I'm not a fan of Cali's public transit, I'm not a fan of how expensive Cali is. I've also had some very bad experiences there that I haven't had elsewhere.

Also I don't eat chicken, so that's kinda irrelevant to me lol.

I stand by my argument that sometimes you gotta be loud to be noticed, even if it does give me a certain level of infamy.
 

Venom_909

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Uh yeah, there's quite a bit of unnecessary hostility in here. Why do tha ZSS players gotta make it like a cat fight. Tone it down and try to be more respectful when arguing that someone isn't a top player of a character please.
I was just stating my opinion. Wasnt angry or feeling hostile sorry if it came off that way. Sometimes stating an opinion about someone can come off as negative but i was just go for a straight up heres the facts type of deal.

Vixen complains saying shes relevant. I dont feel this is the case. Found her constant begging for attention annoying on the forums.

Then again me refuting Vixen viability could come off as annoying to those who go throught the forums as well. Disagreeing doesnt have to be hostile. Felt like i was pretty respectful and not that rude but hey i could be wrong
 
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Uh yeah, there's quite a bit of unnecessary hostility in here. Why do tha ZSS players gotta make it like a cat fight. Tone it down and try to be more respectful when arguing that someone isn't a top player of a character please.
Uh yeah, there's quite a bit of unnecessary hostility in here. Why do tha ZSS players gotta make it like a cat fight. Tone it down and try to be more respectful when arguing that someone isn't a top player of a character please.
 
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Holy ****ing **** jason waterfalls said exactly what I want to say

can I just marry you?
 

ChiePet

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Never said I was a top level player, but I can sure as hell hang with the best. I've taken sets, and games a'plenty in my time.

"I'm easily one of the best." was in reference to the character I play.
I watched this past weekend via Silly Kyle keeping me up to date; saw nothing but impressive ZZS work being done. Medz was too on point, and Silly Kyle is in that state where being rusty just never happened. ZSSamus, much like any character, can be played different ways (Peach's: Bladewise very neutral, Silly Kyle very aggro without losing the Neutral game, VaNz experience and consistency i.e. Solid choices.) so don't get baited by board trolls. WindyCity, AZProjectMelee, and (idk anymore) ClashTournaments has amazing handfuls of character specialists and I admire their dedication. People give up and switch/CP too easily anymore.
 

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I watched this past weekend via Silly Kyle keeping me up to date; saw nothing but impressive ZZS work being done. Medz was too on point, and Silly Kyle is in that state where being rusty just never happened. ZSSamus, much like any character, can be played different ways (Peach's: Bladewise very neutral, Silly Kyle very aggro without losing the Neutral game, VaNz experience and consistency i.e. Solid choices.) so don't get baited by board trolls. WindyCity, AZProjectMelee, and (idk anymore) ClashTournaments has amazing handfuls of character specialists and I admire their dedication. People give up and switch/CP too easily anymore.
Any time someone disagrees with someone online its deemed as a troll. I was simply stating my opinion :)

It shouldnt be hard to understand that some people in different regions will call out others to the carpet on them being one the best ________ esp when they have a very proficient person with that character. What made it worse was then calling that character low- mid tier. Simply a difference of opinions.

If you knew me in person you would understand the context / attitude behind the posts and not view them as hostile. Im friendly with just about everyone.

Simply stated that Vixen is decent but not as great and worthy of attention / ego she has. Thats all :)
 

TreK

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I know you guys are way too busy having some Internet drama to have noticed, but IaB48 has just been uploaded. Feat actually good players such as JZ, Westballz, Sethlon, etc...

/shots
 

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It was this past Thursday. I used all Game & Watch the IaB before AfterShock.
 

ChiePet

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Yup

He absolutely dominated 3.02 in France, where the only three players he lost sets to were amsa, prof pro, and mahie (in pools for Mahie, so basically no French player has forced Zen into losers brackets yet)

I heard he was first on Anther's netplay ladder for a while, but since I don't use netplay myself I can only spread rumors haha

But then 3.5 hit and he spent his time on smash wii u and melee instead. Leon took his spot : he's lost sets to Charby, Mahie and myself, but has only placed first except once, at hf.lan 8, where he lost to Ice and Leffen and took 3rd.

But now Zen seems to be back into PM, as strong as he was when he left it.

I was the closest from being the first French player to take a set off of him, who knows ? It might happen soon ;D
Just watched his set in GF vs. Charby; wtf. I've never seen charizard do some of the things he did.

Specifically this: https://gfycat.com/WindingCharmingIndri
I did not know Charizard had the option out of glide to B-Turn and FF to sweetspot the ledge.
explain (if its difficult to do more so.)
 

TreK

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Just watched his set in GF vs. Charby; wtf. I've never seen charizard do some of the things he did.

Specifically this: https://gfycat.com/WindingCharmingIndri
I did not know Charizard had the option out of glide to B-Turn and FF to sweetspot the ledge.
explain (if its difficult to do more so.)
Nope, it's pretty much that. He B reverses the glide cancel animation, and that lets him ledge snap.

The glide cancel B reverse has a bunch of interesting uses, especially in combos and when he gets juggled. I'm pretty sure you can see him use it in other parts of that set tbh.

He is one crazy Charizard indeed. He was top 3 with that character in 3.02 iirc, and if you ask me it's mostly because we didn't get to send him overseas so that he could take the top1 spot instead but I'm just way too biased lmao
 
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ChiePet

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Ohhh, and because there shouldn't ever be only 1 video under Silly Kyle's name for Peach's, so here's a big handful of him from last weekends SaltyPueblo.

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz - Pools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jrMJaMMeE

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Neon (Lucas) - Winner's Quarterfinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaqypXvTkM

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz - Winner's Semifinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_pDNWG5Cs&index=9

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Oksas (Wolf) - Loser's Quarterfinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lmxn0RcrGc

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Vixen (ZSS) - Loser's Semifinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqFNjvuXKOw

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. HeySeuss (DDD) - Loser's Finals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY7PVu4GJ0

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz - Grand Finals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n1C4GTP_Io
 
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Soft Serve

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Ohhh, and because there shouldn't ever be only 1 video under Silly Kyle's name for Peach's, so here's a big handful of him from last weekends SaltyPueblo.

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz - Pools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jrMJaMMeE

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Neon (Lucas) - Winner's Quarterfinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaqypXvTkM

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz - Winner's Semifinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_pDNWG5Cs&index=9

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Oksas (Wolf) - Loser's Quarterfinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lmxn0RcrGc

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Vixen (ZSS) - Loser's Semifinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqFNjvuXKOw

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. HeySeuss (DDD) - Loser's Finals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY7PVu4GJ0

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz - Grand Finals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n1C4GTP_Io
still missing the most important one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLMBJ3nn6aE
 

ChiePet

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Man, I just noticed how Pit and Sonic have almost NOTHING. it's miserable. Olimar has excuses, they dont #RIPInPiece
 

Silly Kyle

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I think i'm one of the best Peach's for Project M!

Some new vids of me from:

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MVG Medz (Fox) - Pools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jrMJaMMeE&index=11&list=PLUlQZqWo6xoReaUtxbt6U0vqQ9zc7Ogiw

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Neon (Lucas) - Winner's Quarterfinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaqypXvTkM&index=10&list=PLUlQZqWo6xoReaUtxbt6U0vqQ9zc7Ogiw

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Oksas (Wolf) - Loser's Quarterfinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lmxn0RcrGc&index=5&list=PLUlQZqWo6xoReaUtxbt6U0vqQ9zc7Ogiw

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Vixen (ZSS) - Loser's Semifinals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqFNjvuXKOw&list=PLUlQZqWo6xoReaUtxbt6U0vqQ9zc7Ogiw&index=4

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. HeySeuss (DDD) - Loser's Finals Best of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY7PVu4GJ0&list=PLUlQZqWo6xoReaUtxbt6U0vqQ9zc7Ogiw&index=2

These vids include a top character for like each character!
Alright! Here are some more videos of me from this past weekend! :)

Bracket: http://mh.challonge.com/MYMRHNprojectmsingles

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Chip (Kirby)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lcQYmFyqQ

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Vixen (ZSS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DucDiYYcdY

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Oksas (Wolf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QimLtbyik

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Forward (Fox/Puff) - Loser's Semis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgr2ZrhR0C0

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. MedZ (Fox) - Loser's Finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdkvaRoWaUA

Silly Kyle (Peach) vs. Axe (Marth) - Grand Finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QiA3ms8CCI
 
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Juushichi

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I believe there are videos of Darc playing Pit vs Mafia somewhere.

Also surprised that Nazo doesn't have any videos hovering around for Sonic.
 

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I believe there are videos of Darc playing Pit vs Mafia somewhere.

Also surprised that Nazo doesn't have any videos hovering around for Sonic.
There have been really few representation of Sonics (at least in streams) in most events too.
 

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There's a good chance you'll be seeing videos of Aion in the future, his sonic is pretty tight. I heard he took a set off of IPK, which sadly wasn't recorded (atleast I don't think).

I live too far from my scene and their players to get footage.
 
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I reeeeally like sonic and my sonic is kind of good. I'll show him off at IaB at some point
 

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Nova, our new PM weeklies replacing NeoNebulous, just had its first event last Friday! Playlist's here. Grand Finals unfortunately couldn't be uploaded due a Twitch-related error D:
 

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Twitch fudged my login info a couple weeks back, nearly lost my account. Gosh darn chinese hackers
 

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I haven't seen any videos of him or Aion.
Aion took 2 sets from IPK last event in socal he showed up to. Solid player but highly inconsistent imo.

Last Symbiote wasnt recorded which blows cuz we had a lot of super good matches to watch. GF was Rcizzle vs IPK. RC 3-0d to reset the bracket. IPK won 3-1 if i remember correctly on set 2.
 

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Sonic is inconsistent in general. U either kill the person, or randomly lose to some hitbox a couple times and boom goes the dynamite
 
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