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That was the point. The gameplay mechanics aren't what make the game challenging.
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Tier List Speculation
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Neptune Shiranui
Shadow Streak~
Pfft, who needs to be good at other games to be good at Pm? I started playing competitive straight from PM. xp
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
Good god there were a lot more stupid posts since I last posted (Strong bad and Reflex's posts were great reads tho 
). It's not hard to be technical in any game. People lose because they make bad decisions, not because they can't tech. My spacing is phenomenal in brawl. I try to be frame perfect in brawl at everything I do (And my character aka is really demanding for perfect play due to being combo bait). I'm also good at downloading people, which helps too.
While I am learning PM still, I'd consider myself decent already due to understanding smash. I'll be good by the time SKTAR comes around. I plan on top 3'ing doubles and aiming for top 10 in singles.
). It's not hard to be technical in any game. People lose because they make bad decisions, not because they can't tech. My spacing is phenomenal in brawl. I try to be frame perfect in brawl at everything I do (And my character aka is really demanding for perfect play due to being combo bait). I'm also good at downloading people, which helps too. While I am learning PM still, I'd consider myself decent already due to understanding smash. I'll be good by the time SKTAR comes around. I plan on top 3'ing doubles and aiming for top 10 in singles.
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Hinichii.ez.™
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Ether you get #1 or #fradulentGood god there were a lot more stupid posts since I last posted (Strong bad and Reflex's posts were great reads tho
While I am learning PM still, I'd consider myself decent already due to understanding smash. I'll be good by the time SKTAR comes around. I plan on top 3'ing doubles and aiming for top 10 in singles.
2nd place is just the first loser.
Chesstiger2612
Smash Lord
Thats the right mentality @
Seagull Joe
#confidence
Seagull Joe
#confidence
Thane of Blue Flames
Fire is catching.
I'm going to defend @
Seagull Joe
by saying humility as a concept is pretty bullsh*t. "Yeah, I should totally downplay the fact that I'm good at something because that's like politically correct or something and if I ever praise myself I'm an arrogant prick." F*** that line of thinking, quite frankly, it's time we moved past that sort of ****.
On the other hand, specifically in this case SeaJoe has been saying he'll be good at PM in a few months since his first post in the Wolf boards ... Sooooo #callouts #fraudulent #gitgud
Seagull Joe
by saying humility as a concept is pretty bullsh*t. "Yeah, I should totally downplay the fact that I'm good at something because that's like politically correct or something and if I ever praise myself I'm an arrogant prick." F*** that line of thinking, quite frankly, it's time we moved past that sort of ****.On the other hand, specifically in this case SeaJoe has been saying he'll be good at PM in a few months since his first post in the Wolf boards ... Sooooo #callouts #fraudulent #gitgud
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
So, a better player beat somebody in a bad MU?
Player Skill > MUs to some extent.
Dude, this is my world.I'm going to defend @
Oro?!
Smash Hero
To be fair Laz has been playing about 6 months of competetive smash. LMAOOOO get rekt everyone.
Bleck
Smash Master
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Right, you keep thinking that.I'm going to defend @
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
Talking **** and being a pompous ass is why I love Leffen's mentality so much. Me and NR think such similar things. We both must be top 5 thinkers/philosophers, almost as good as our hero TeeVee.
roman5hero
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saying your good imo is fine.
what isnt fine is going on stream and saying they nerfed jiggs hard when that is crap and she is exactly ported from melee. that pissed me off
what isnt fine is going on stream and saying they nerfed jiggs hard when that is crap and she is exactly ported from melee. that pissed me off
Explain?
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
In the grand scheme of things, you don't take a large portion of what Seagull says seriously.
So how about those tier lists/placings...
Burnsy
Smash Lord
Tier...list?
roman5hero
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-as2ZmoOg that match the last game
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Could we go back to making speculative posts about character viability and take that to social?
Thanks. : )
Thanks. : )
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
One day we shall get there.Talking **** and being a pompous *** is why I love Leffen's mentality so much. Me and NR think such similar things. We both must be top 5 thinkers/philosophers, almost as good as our hero TeeVee.
No.
Lol, you don't stay humble because it's the politically correct thing to do, you stay humble because being amazing and not talking s**t is ten time more badass than being amazing and constantly talking about it. It's okay to use your talent to make a point, but the quiet dude who has skills will always be cooler imo.
Piccolo>Vegeta as far as cool goes
But other than trying to just seem cooler, then I see no reason not to be full of yourself other than lookin dumb if you're not good, or not wanting to rub people the wrong way. Folks isssssssss sensitive and a lot of cultural development encourages humility. For example: just about everyone with a religious background. Appreciating humility is deeply rooted and many well known and loved "heroes" have humility as one of their main characteristics.
Humility>Cockiness on hero tier list
Piccolo>Vegeta as far as cool goes
But other than trying to just seem cooler, then I see no reason not to be full of yourself other than lookin dumb if you're not good, or not wanting to rub people the wrong way. Folks isssssssss sensitive and a lot of cultural development encourages humility. For example: just about everyone with a religious background. Appreciating humility is deeply rooted and many well known and loved "heroes" have humility as one of their main characteristics.
Humility>Cockiness on hero tier list
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NickRiddle
#negativeNick
But I thought people liked Eli...
how important humility is diminishes as you drift from saving the world to playing Smash lol. I think Eli is hilarious, but I think it can be pushed a little far. I love leffen as a player, but I found his postings a bit obnoxious and he constantly made personal attacks, and not for humor (or using humor) the way Eli usually does.
I just imagine someone like Eli typing and thinkin to himself, "lol, these dumbies, why the hell do they still take this seriously, too easy, they keep feeding me, lololololololololol this is too fun." 20 likes
I just imagine someone like Eli typing and thinkin to himself, "lol, these dumbies, why the hell do they still take this seriously, too easy, they keep feeding me, lololololololololol this is too fun." 20 likes
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Vashimus
Smash Master
Be humble in your words, but bold in your actions.
BluntedMask
Smash Apprentice
Well time to rename this The Philosophy of being good thread.
Closer to 8 now just looking at tournament results(he was at TBH3 was he not?)
SixSaw
Smash Journeyman
No, his first tournament was EXPosure 6 on December 28th, 2013
SixSaw
Smash Journeyman
The important thing to keep in mind here is that you have to actually BE good first, and that requires proving it in tournament. The right to be arrogant is something you earn by putting in the work necessary to back up the trash talk with results. Leffen can say whatever he wants about his ability or the lack thereof of fellow European players because the bracket of whatever regional he most recently won backs it up. When some scrub talks a big game with nothing to back it, he's doing nothing but setting himself up for embarrassment.I'm going to defend @
HRR2b23
Smash Apprentice
To me the only seems different from melee about her is that she seems slightly slower in the air, but that does hurt a lot since Jiggs lives in the air.
Plasma
Smash Cadet
He was at TBH3 but he missed the sign ups at the time, so he only played friendlies.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
It's 1:1. Only reason I would say that would throw you off is that Project M is often played in 16:9, where as Melee is strictly limited to 4:3.
HRR2b23
Smash Apprentice
Hm it must just be me then. The reason I said that is because I have more trouble punishing misses with spaced bairs in PM than in Melee, but I guess I'm just better with her in Melee or something haha.
Bleck
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In a recent tourney, I beat a Falco player with Diddy Kong and he kept talking about how much they "nerfed Falco's damage from Melee".
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Lazarond
Smash Apprentice
hey everybody!!!! ^.^
Player -0
Smash Hero
We weren't talking about you. Nope.
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Lazarond
Smash Apprentice
who wasnt talking about who? :0
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Yknow who would help out this conversation by A LOT?
@Aliami Armador
@Aliami Armador
wiiztec
Smash Journeyman
Hi, the only thing I do on that list without a second thought is edgehog, gotta develop dem habits
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Tires don exits.