The Yoshi Labs

[Scatz]

Sup peeps! Making a thread to condense Glitches, ATs, etc. that Yoshi players find. Send 'em here to have other Yoshi mains figure it out, and I'll write up a tutorial on how to perform it! Thanks to Yikarur, Slice, and everyone else for videos and explanations on how to perform these moves!

Egg-Transmission
Ledge jump > Buffer UpB till you hit the ground. You'll teleport back to the ledge.

If you grab the ledge again, you'll remove the spawn point (landing spot on the stage). If you don't grab it, you'll double jump and repeat UpBs until you get back on the stage, then you'll teleport to the spawn point.

You can delay the teleport (on the 2nd method) by using Eggroll or Neutral B before using UpB on the ground. As long as you're buffering these moves, you'll keep the spawn point (and UpB will make you teleport).

You can actually do egg-transmission by buffering egg lay and egg roll from the ledge hop too instead of just mashing egg throw till you get to the ground.

Can't completely confirm since I have no footage, but if you make a spawn point on platforms, you'll shoot off like Team Rocket.
Note: Grabbing someone with Egglay, Using DownB, Moving, Attacking, Shielding will remove the spawn point!

Egg Roll Super Jump:

When you egg roll and fall onto the base of the stage, input jump and Yoshi will bounce back up onto the top of Battlefield.

Note: You must start the egg roll on a platform!

Egg Roll Shot:

Begin an Egg roll towards an edge without doing any directional inputs. Once you make a directional input, you'll shoot offstage at full speed.


Buffered Egg Toss Slide (no idea on the name lol):

Use a dash attack canceled pivot grab, and buffer a special (Neutral or Side to postpone, and Up for immediate) to slide. Follows the same rules as Egg Transmission in which the move must be used immediately or it will not work. ~~Credit to Shado Chimera for verifying, AmSa for spreading the knowledge, and Yonezmi for finding the glitch

 

[Scatz]

Apparently, the video I had posted beforehand had gotten screwed up. Here's something you Yoshis can find out!


It's apparently using the same method as the egg teleport to get the slide. Only thing I can tell is that it's initiated from a pivot grab.

AmSa stated that it works when you make a dash attack canceled pivot grab. Dunno how that would work outside of using what's called a boost pivot grab in Brawl.

Someone try doing pivot grab, but use A just a frame or two before you use Z.

Edit: Or R.... W/e the 3DS controls are now lol.

 

[Shadó Chimera / シャドーキメラ]

Someone try doing pivot grab, but use A just a frame or two before you use Z.

That worked. Thanks for collecting the info btw. I was very curious how this stuff worked.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Yoshi most definitely has an exploit that lets him basically do a sliding Up-B.

NOT the one where he teleports to the edge. It looks much more like say, Snake's DACUS.

Check this video for reference. There's a match of MK vs Yoshi where that happens a fair bit. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24610321?ref=search_key_video

 

[Scatz]

That worked. Thanks for collecting the info btw. I was very curious how this stuff worked.

No problem! Glad to help anyway I can. And since that worked, I'll be adding that to the OP tonight.

Yoshi most definitely has an exploit that lets him basically do a sliding Up-B.

NOT the one where he teleports to the edge. It looks much more like say, Snake's DACUS.

Check this video for reference. There's a match of MK vs Yoshi where that happens a fair bit. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24610321?ref=search_key_video

Can't watch it =[ I have no account.

 

[A2ZOMG]

No problem! Glad to help anyway I can. And since that worked, I'll be adding that to the OP tonight.


Can't watch it =[ I have no account.

You can make one free.

Alternatively, http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm24610321

Found one place where it happens around 1:17.

 

[Sinister Slush]

I know that video is supposed to show Yoshi being cute with the slides and all, but I'm just more of interested in the fact this is a 15 minute video of MK not winning a single match.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Yeah. Metaknight's nerfs are pretty obvious.

 

[Slice~]

I didn't watch the whole video since my net isn't fast and i don't want to watch 15min of MK sadness. RIP in Pepperonis Meta Knight, You won't be missed.

But i GUESS it's about the ETS?, which is still in Smash4! <3

 

[Gliffie]

Any tips for doing dash attack canceled pivot grab? I managed to pull it of a couple of time, but the timing seems really tight.

 

[WhiteCane]

Nice actually did the teleport one a few tomes, can't tell the egg roll super jump works or not since the egg roll can get crazy as is.

 

[Scatz]

There's no real tip for dash attack canceled pivot grab. The requirements are within a few frames after starting the dash attack. So if you're messing up, you are probably doing it too slow.

 

[Gliffie]

Nice actually did the teleport one a few tomes, can't tell the egg roll super jump works or not since the egg roll can get crazy as is.

If you can jump to the top platform of BF then it's working.

 

[Gliffie]

There's no real tip for dash attack canceled pivot grab. The requirements are within a few frames after starting the dash attack. So if you're messing up, you are probably doing it too slow.

Hmm, that's what I thought. I'll just practice more

 

[WhiteCane]

Hmm, that's what I thought. I'll just practice more

Can;t do it constantly egg teleport has tricky timing.

 

[HoodsxX]

I'm having trouble doing the Egg slide. After doing the dash attack canceled pivot grab, do I just buffer Up B? And I'll slide?

 

[JakubDi]

Can;t do it constantly egg teleport has tricky timing.

Do you mean the input or the actual Yoshi's position? You can just spam UpB. What's important is that Yoshi has to be almost touching the ground when starting the attack's animation (at least from what I've noticed).

 

[WhiteCane]

Do you mean the input or the actual Yoshi's position? You can just spam UpB. What's important is that Yoshi has to be almost touching the ground when starting the attack's animation (at least from what I've noticed).

Thanks bit of both I can do it if I land on that first platform if not and it gets harder to time. Plus something I actually hit someone cool trick even if the teleport fails tho.

 

[Gliffie]

I'm having trouble doing the Egg slide. After doing the dash attack canceled pivot grab, do I just buffer Up B? And I'll slide?

Yup, just mash up-b while the grab is out. The hard part is canceling the dash attack. One thing that made it easier for me is to put grab on R so I press R and A at almost the same time with my right hand while the left does the pivot. Almost feels like a jc grab then.

 

[Yikarur]

No picture is working for me

 

[HoodsxX]

Yup, just mash up-b while the grab is out. The hard part is canceling the dash attack. One thing that made it easier for me is to put grab on R so I press R and A at almost the same time with my right hand while the left does the pivot. Almost feels like a jc grab then.

How fast are you canceling the dash attack into the pivot grab? Is it right at the start of the dash or a few frames at the end? I got it like twice, but still don't know the timing. ;/

 

[Scatz]

I'm having trouble doing the Egg slide. After doing the dash attack canceled pivot grab, do I just buffer Up B? And I'll slide?

Yes. Has to be buffered.

No picture is working for me

The videos on the main post? Dunno what I can say about that since it's youtube. =[

How fast are you canceling the dash attack into the pivot grab? Is it right at the start of the dash or a few frames at the end? I got it like twice, but still don't know the timing. ;/

You have to cancel the beginning of dash attack within a few frames by using pivot grab.

 

[HoodsxX]

Yes. Has to be buffered.



The videos on the main post? Dunno what I can say about that since it's youtube. =[



You have to cancel the beginning of dash attack within a few frames by using pivot grab.

Thanks for the reply, I'll work on it. ;o

 

[CatcherAndTheRai]

This is cool and all but you dont give us specifics. How soon do we have to buffer the Up-B?

 

[HoodsxX]

I don't think anybody knows the exact frames right now. ;o Hence why it's not posted.

 

[HoodsxX]

This is cool and all but you dont give us specifics. How soon do we have to buffer the Up-B?

You buffer Up B while the tongue is coming out. But the hard part is getting the dash cancel pivot grab perfect so you do slide when buffering Up B (I just mash Up B)

 

[Yikarur]

oh I didn't know Vine is a video portal. I thought they were some type of broken link haha

 

[Nikes]

Silly-ish question, but Scatz how do you keep the camera stable when recording off-screen?

 

[Scatz]

This is cool and all but you dont give us specifics. How soon do we have to buffer the Up-B?

Buy me a 3DS, and give me homebrew with frame advance code so I can give you the answer.

If I knew the exact frames, I'd put it up there. Considering that I don't have access to Smash 4 (nor will until WiiU comes out), I can't do this stuff on my own, so I just post information that I derive from previous techs (dash attack pivot grab is known as boosted pivot grab for us).

Silly-ish question, but Scatz how do you keep the camera stable when recording off-screen?

That would be a question to give to @ Slice~ , unless you're referring to the vine video. That's Yonezmi's doing (Japanese player).

 

[Nordal]

People up in here acting like you're the one recording everything.

You're gathering discoveries from different sources, not experimenting yourself (but I do appreciate the former very much so <3)

 

[Nikes]

That would be a question to give to @ Slice~ , unless you're referring to the vine video. That's Yonezmi's doing (Japanese player).

Ahhh sorry, kinda derped out there >_<

 

[TM_icecream]

I discovered this glitch http://youtu.be/TkKJ7dYc1uI help me try to re create it pls.
It's like the one the Japanese players showed us but it makes you go backwards and uses egg lay?

 

[Number 2]

@ TM_icecream I still haven't figured out what is going on in this video, and tried it on my own without any success.
But I just wanted to point out that you can actually go backwards with the dash attack canceled pivot grab technique. You have to throw the egg backwards. You still go in the same direction as the forward throw though. So the video you showed here bring a good point since you actually move back from where you were facing initially.

 

[Scatz]

Were you doing any move before you got hit? I can't tell the animation.

Using the stuff we've gotten previously, try using a dash attack canceled dash grab? It's the same as doing a DAC pivot grab, but without the pivot. I wanna hope that the hit from Ike kept the glitch in tact and the Egg Lay postponed the slide until you buffered the UpB.

 

[Chex-Mex]

Sorry for being slow on this. Just want to see if I have this right.
Buffered Egg Toss Slide
Running right ->dash attack (a) ->left on control stick->grab->up+B
Is that correct?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Scatz]

The left on control stick comes after the grab. Otherwise, it's correct.

 

[TM_icecream]

Idk

I just jab>turn around jab>down B>get dtilted by sheik>egglay(maybe buffered?)>egg throw(maybe buffered?) and I slide. Can't re create it either

 

[Scatz]

What I'm asking is did you input a move just before getting Dtilted? The animation looked like you were starting something other than just a dash.

That's why I'm saying it could be a dash attack canceled dash grab. Just going off knowing that dash attack canceled pivot grab allows you to buffer a upB and slide across the stage, I'm wondering if your answer is the just doing the dash grab to get it.

 

[pugwishbone17]

Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but you can actually do egg-transmission by buffering egg lay and egg roll from the ledge hop too instead of just mashing egg throw till you get to the ground.

 

[TM_icecream]

What I'm asking is did you input a move just before getting Dtilted? The animation looked like you were starting something other than just a dash.

That's why I'm saying it could be a dash attack canceled dash grab. Just going off knowing that dash attack canceled pivot grab allows you to buffer a upB and slide across the stage, I'm wondering if your answer is the just doing the dash grab to get it.

Oh I gotcha
Idk if I was or not. DEFINITELY wasn't attempting a DAC dash grab. I'd never have any reason to. I would assume on context that I was going for a dash attack, or mayyybe a mix up of running through him and pivot grabbing. If it was just a dash grab I would've input it sooner