The Smash Lab Standard Terms List 2.0

[Yikarur]

Neither can D3 or wolf. I think there are several others that can't, too.

every character but Yoshi can, a lot of characters just don't benefit of it.

Polt learn to read

Glide Toss [Universal*] [...]
*excluding Yoshi

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Yika, that was added after he mentioned it.

 

[Yikarur]

oO I thought it was added because it's so obvious! :0

 

[PEACE7]

Wicked good thread

 

[Poltergust]

every character but Yoshi can, a lot of characters just don't benefit of it.

Polt learn to read

Glide Toss [Universal*] [...]
*excluding Yoshi

Yeah, Yoshi's the only one who can't even throw it. He just rolls.

...And you don't have to be so mean...

 

[Dnyce]

Hurtboxes cannot become hitboxes.

afk

 

[TriforceOSM]

In Shield SDI? How does that work? Can you find a video about it?

 

[Pitzer]

I was gonna say.. Pit Can't Meteor Cancel... so... yeah...

 

[MK26]

"Dash Attack Cancelling Item Throw (DACIT) [Universal] - Interrupting a running item throw with a standing item throw to get a large slide on a standing item throw with less lag."

I still dont know how to do this, especially since the name implies canceling a dash attack while the description says canceling an item throw...into another item throw



"Shield Daze [Universal] - The state a character enters after their shield is broken and they hit the ground. The player is unable to control the character until the Shield Daze is finished or interrupted. Struggle inputs are accepted during this state to make the Shield Daze longer. The Shield Daze also lasts for a shorter time as the damage of the victim increases."

Maybe you should change the last sentence to 'The Shield Daze is also the only immobilization status that lasts for a shorter time as damage of the victim increases.'

 

[Pitzer]

They worded that shield daze thing entirely wrong time is decreased when you struggle, and it increases when you have higher percent, Jiggs however is uneffected unless there is a Solid ceiling above her as she dies

 

[rPSIvysaur]

They worded that shield daze thing entirely wrong time is decreased when you struggle, and it increases when you have higher percent, Jiggs however is uneffected unless there is a Solid ceiling above her as she dies

not entirely wrong. It's shorter the higher percent you are. Only the struggle input is worded wrong.

 

[Pitzer]

Are they gonna fix that Pit is the only character in the game that can't meteor cancel?

 

[The Cape]

Pit can't meteor cancel? Really? Thats news to me (and interesting news at that). I am going to test this out now. Renth

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Definitely news to me. I'll wait to see what Cape says, but it really shouldn't exclude Pit for any reason.

 

[MK26]

can someone please explain to me what a dash attack cancel item throw is and why it involves canceling an item throw into an item throw?

 

[Pitzer]

Did you try DACUS ing with a item in your hand?

 

[MK26]

that just gives you a running item throw, which i was unable to cancel into a standing item throw...

 

[Pitzer]

try it with link and snake, they do some ******** up throw thing.

 

[MK26]

well that's new lol

and it makes the description make sense!

thanks ptzr

EDIT: also, maybe the op could mention that the classic controller has two grab buttons, Zl and Zr

 

[Infinitysmash]

Shield Daze [Universal] - The state a character enters after their shield is broken and they hit the ground. The player is unable to control the character until the Shield Daze is finished or interrupted. Struggle inputs are accepted during this state to make the Shield Daze longer. The Shield Daze also lasts for a shorter time as the damage of the victim increases.

Am I misunderstanding something here or is this a typo?

 

[standardtoaster]

Are they gonna fix that Pit is the only character in the game that can't meteor cancel?

Every character in the game can meteor cancel. After being in hitstun for 25 frames you can jump or upB. The meteor cancel window in brawl is 25 frames.

 

[Pitzer]

Pit can't meteor Cancel. For some odd reason.

 

[standardtoaster]

Welp. Looks like I'll be loading up vBrawl tomorrow to take a look at it.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Pit can meteor cancel, fUddO has done it against my terribad Falco numerous times.

 

[standardtoaster]

Pit can definitely meteor cancel. Patriotic Zero (PTZR), learn to time the meteor cancel.

 

[Pitzer]

Pit can meteor cancel, fUddO has done it against my terribad Falco numerous times.

Question Is it harder to Meteor Cancel with Tap jump off. I heard a rumor about that. ALSO, Technically, Pit cannot meteor cancel if he is spiked out of his Up-b, as well.

 

[standardtoaster]

After being hit from Wings of Icarus you lose all of your jumps? If that isn't the case, then you are definitely able to meteor cancel.

 

[DeLux]

Just a heads up, we plan to release STL 2.1 by this Saturday.

It'll just be an update addressing all the needed changes brought up by the community

 

[MonkUnit]

If Pit is hit out of his upB, he loses all of his jumps. He can still Meteor Cancel, but it is always the better option to MC by jumping so you don't lose all your jumps.

 

[Pitzer]

Can someone give me like a vid of Pit meteor canceling. I find it hard to believe he can do it.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_10ei_WAzb0&t=17s

 

[Pitzer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_10ei_WAzb0&t=17s

He didn't meteor cancel, Dair at that percent doesn't have that much knockback or hitstun.

 

[Yikarur]

but he did meteor cancel because it was out of hitstun.

 

[standardtoaster]

He did meteor cancel. Falco's meteor hitbox has an angle of 280*. Any angle between 230* and 310* is meteor cancellable.

Falco has two hitboxes on his dair. One that does 14% and hits at an angle of 280* and one that does 8% and has the Sakurai angle. As you could see in the video, Pit was at 30% before being hit. After being hit he was at 44%. This means that he was hit by the meteor.

 

[Pitzer]

I need a clear video, I believe when you meteor cancel white sparks go around your character.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Seriously? Stop being dense. Pit can meteor cancel.
And you "believe" that white sparks appear? No, they don't. They simply double jump out of hitstun after 25 frames.

 

[Pitzer]

They did in melee to indicate a Successful Meteor Cancel

 

[Yikarur]

but this is braaawl

 

[rPSIvysaur]

They did in melee to indicate a Successful Meteor Cancel

Did you know that in Melee, you can wavedash! That must mean it happens in Brawl too!
edit: oh

 

[Pitzer]

Pretty sure Pit can wave dash