The Official Dark Samus for Brawl thread!

[Private Zulen]

So... don't you all think three Samus's is a stretch?

 

[Wiseguy]

So... don't you all think three Samus's is a stretch?

Although she shares her name, Dark Samus is a different character entirely. She is the form taken by Metroid Prime after her defeat at the hands of Samus in Prime 1.

 

[Vali]

Each would play very differently. Besides for the metroid series there's Dark Samus (who isn't Samus) and Ridley left of the main characters that aren't already in. So yeah, it's not really a stretch.

how about Dark Aether as DS's stage?

Exposure to the atmosphere would steadily cause all characters to take damage, causing players to take cover in the liight bubbles. You could also have some Ing as stage hazzards.

Thoughts?

Gee Wiseguy, that sure is a neat idea. It'd suck for anyone to miss it.

 

[Stryks]

Yeah not bad actually, it would be unfair if dark samus wouldnt take damage, people will start complaining and stuff, still I like it, even though I hate dark aether... soo... much

 

[The Bino]

Yea i would have to agree that it would be a good idea for the damage, but what if they had the Light Suit on? Would that 1 Samus not receive damage as well since they might have the Light Suit on, if it's added.. something to think about

Also i like that idea of using the Impact Crater from Metroid Prime 1, and it could have levels in it just like in the Final Battle in MP1, and the stage can move just like in Mute City in Melee, and probably Mario Circuit, MetaKnight's Stage, and Delfino Plaza to give some examples

 

[Wiseguy]

Yeah, maybe DS not taking damage would be unfair...

*I'm sure I understand Vali. Did you mean that I should take out the quote brackets? If so, done.*

 

[Vali]

Yeah, maybe DS not taking damage would be unfair...

*I'm sure I understand Vali. Did you mean that I should take out the quote brackets? If so, done.*

Would just make it the most awesome counter-pick stage for DS, thus being banned ;p

*I meant the pictures, so it didn't look like you were spamming your own idea*

 

[Wiseguy]

Would just make it the most awesome counter-pick stage for DS, thus being banned ;p

*I meant the pictures, so it didn't look like you were spamming your own idea*

*Okay done. Good thing these asterixes make it impossible for others to read our text.*

So, to respond to The Bingo I don't think that the light suit thing is an issue. It would just be Smaus with a white alternate costume, like in your sig. No reason to get technical.

As for a Prime 1 stage, how about the artifact temple?

As shown here, the Chozo statues could occasionally spring to life and zap players if they aren't careful.

 

[Stryks]

Yeah That was one of my original ideas for a metroid stage, I find it to be a perfect stage for brawl...

 

[Wiseguy]

Yeah That was one of my original ideas for a metroid stage, I find it to be a perfect stage for brawl...

Further proof that great minds think alike. Even our sigs look similar!

We've long overdue for a great Metroid Stage. The N64 one was okay, but the Melee ones left quite a bit to be desired.

 

[The Bino]

Wiseguy - What i was getting at was that since you said that Dark Samus wouldn't take any damage cuz Dark Samus doesn't need the Light Crystals like Samus does in MP2, but since you said that she would be unharmed while everyone else is harmed lil by lil if they don't take cover in the Light Crystals area, i was just pointing out that Samus was capable of not being hurt at all cuz of the Light Suit, and that it then wouldn't becom fair for anyone cuz then 2 chars wouldn't be harmed... 1 cuz Dark Samus wasn't harmed at all... and 2 Samus' Light Suit emitted Light Energy from her Suit anyway, so what im technically getting at is that if they put Samus' Light Suit as a costume and you picked it and there was another Samus, ppl would then complain if that stage came up that they would constantly be getting damage cuz they couldn't pick the Light Suit

Kinda retarted to explain all of that, but that's what i was thinking when you had said what you had said

 

[Stryks]

Yeah the metroid stages were awful, especially brinstar depths, for 64 brinstar was ok, but we could have gotten something better in melee

 

[Wiseguy]

Wiseguy - What i was getting at was that since you said that Dark Samus wouldn't take any damage cuz Dark Samus doesn't need the Light Crystals like Samus does in MP2, but since you said that she would be unharmed while everyone else is harmed lil by lil if they don't take cover in the Light Crystals area, i was just pointing out that Samus was capable of not being hurt at all cuz of the Light Suit, and that it then wouldn't becom fair for anyone cuz then 2 chars wouldn't be harmed... 1 cuz Dark Samus wasn't harmed at all... and 2 Samus' Light Suit emitted Light Energy from her Suit anyway, so what im technically getting at is that if they put Samus' Light Suit as a costume and you picked it and there was another Samus, ppl would then complain if that stage came up that they would constantly be getting damage cuz they couldn't pick the Light Suit

Kinda retarted to explain all of that, but that's what i was thinking when you had said what you had said

Yeah, in retrospect I see now that my "DS doesn't get damaged" idea was pretty stupid. The Smash team should just ignore that aspect of the Dark Aether atmosphere and just make all characters take damage equally, in my view.

Sorry for the confusion...

Yeah the metroid stages were awful, especially brinstar depths, for 64 brinstar was ok, but we could have gotten something better in melee

True, very true. Fortunately, there is plenty to draw on since they now have two Prime games (three if you count Hunters) to draw ideas from. Who knows? maybe we'll see a map Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

 

[Mysteryfox1]

or dark samus is taking damage in the light areas or maby the stage is swapping trough dark and light eather that the bad guys take damage in light aether (bowser mewto ganondorf enz.) and there are there dark crystals and in dark eather the good guys get damage or just random can also be a possibiltie

 

[Wiseguy]

or dark samus is taking damage in the light areas or maby the stage is swapping trough dark and light eather that the bad guys take damage in light aether (bowser mewto ganondorf enz.) and there are there dark crystals and in dark eather the good guys get damage or just random can also be a possibiltie

That's actually a pretty good idea. Switiching between light and dark Aether would make for a very compelling map.

 

[the grim lizard]

All I know is...for once, i'd like them to put in a Metroid stage that I DIDN'T hate...

Oh, and agreed with the DS as a separate character thing (one of the few actual enemies of Samus besides Ridley and Kraid), but I think she's pretty far down the list of characters to put in...

 

[k!llsw!tch]

They should of replaced Zero Suit Samus with Dark Samus I think. I don't know how its gonna work out though is Samus (ex: like Zelda) be able to turn into Zero Suit or something. Cause Sakurai said that thing about Samus's body armor comes off occasionally right? Maybe Dark Samus would be a costume style.

 

[The Bino]

I would rather them incorporate the Light and Dark Suits into Samus' Costumes and make Dark Samus a char on her/it's own

 

[Zarasai]

i woudlnt mind light and dark suit costumes instead of colour changes - itd be certainly mroe interesting thats for sure

 

[Stryks]

Yep, I would KILL for the phazon suit, and maybe the suits in MP3 can get in two... Dark samus should have the Plain dark samus look, skeletal oook and the MP3 look...

Also heres hoping samus's grapple beam is on the left side XD

 

[Meta77]

I know i think samus should have a baby samus final smash move. Where baby samus comes and gives her mommy a boost in energy to launch samus beam cannnon.

 

[Caael]

I'm fine with Dark Samus in Brawl, as long as Ridley is in too. If Ridley isn't in and Dark Samus is, villages will be rased.

 

[Meta77]

come on why does everyone hate poor little Baby samus. I mean come on its samus baby.

 

[dynamic_entry]

Yep, I would KILL for the phazon suit, and maybe the suits in MP3 can get in two... Dark samus should have the Plain dark samus look, skeletal oook and the MP3 look...

Also heres hoping samus's grapple beam is on the left side XD

kill for the phazon suit? geeze, i wonder what you'd do for the light suit......

honestly, the light suit is by far samus' best ever suit. so sleek and organic looking (without actualy BEING organic, im looking in your direction fusion suit!) nah, the fusion suit is also cool. arm spikes ftw!

 

[The Bino]

I personally like the Phazon suit the best, it looks the hottest imo, but then the Light Suit, and i think the Dark Suit is mainly the Varia Suit with a different color

And yea the Fusion suit wouldn't be a bad costume either

 

[Zarasai]

personal favorites here being the varia, phazon, and light suits, with something from Prime 3 :D

 

[Gindor]

I would like to see dark samus in ssbb. I think all of samus' upgrade type suits and her origional without the big shoulders should all be costume selections. I have a hunch that the huge beam samus fired off in the ssbb movie is her final smash.

Maybe samus' suit comes off when she has taken too much damage, and is repaired with time.

 

[Stryks]

Wait, are u saying dark samus and samus are the same person, if u are... *Load shotgun*

 

[OmegaXXII]

I would like to see Dark Samus but only as an alternate costume for Samus

 

[Gindor]

I would like to see dark samus in ssbb. I think all of samus' upgrade type suits and her origional without the big shoulders should all be costume selections. I have a hunch that the huge beam samus fired off in the ssbb movie is her final smash.

Maybe samus' suit comes off when she has taken too much damage, and is repaired with time.

No, technically they are but that rant was mainly about samus' costumes being her suits, not including dark samus as a costume. I would hate to see that.

 

[Stryks]

Giga: DARK SAMUS AINT SAMUS

Its like saying jiggly should be an alt. costume for kirby, zelda should be an alt. costume for peach, when u say dark samus should be an alt. costume for samus...

Just because it says samus doesnt mean theyre similair or are the same, physically they look alike but play MP2, dark samus has abilities samus may never have...

 

[OmegaXXII]

^^^ yea.. I know that, but they just seem to similar in appearance that is all that i'm saying and i agree with you that dark could have some special moves but i'm comparing like Mario, Dr.Mario

 

[Stryks]

True, but dark samus should really be added as a newcomer in brawl, she fights totally diferent from samus, and would be a totally original character...

 

[OmegaXXII]

I guess I could see it happening since samus might have a transformation anyway then i would probably choose Dark Samus instead if it indeed she has an original moveset

 

[Gindor]

Look, I don't mean they are the same for that, I just was basing that because dark samus is basically an empty shell with the urge for destruction, the shell being samus' suit which has become almost her trademark and almost become her. I'm sorry if I described that wrong.

 

[dynamic_entry]

i think there are far more deserving characters (cough ridley cough cough) and i think it would be a shame to see DS take the place of some who is far more individual. having said that, i think DS is a way cool character and i really enjoyed pasting her in MP2. so, if the only way for her to get in is as a costume for samus (maybe skin all her attacks too to look like phazon...phazon missiles and charge beam ftw) then im all for DS as a samus costume.

 

[bivunit94]

Samus, Zero Suit Samus, and Dark Samus?

That's a bit much.

 

[Gindor]

i think there are far more deserving characters (cough ridley cough cough) and i think it would be a shame to see DS take the place of some who is far more individual. having said that, i think DS is a way cool character and i really enjoyed pasting her in MP2. so, if the only way for her to get in is as a costume for samus (maybe skin all her attacks too to look like phazon...phazon missiles and charge beam ftw) then im all for DS as a samus costume.

If that is the way it must be, I would take it.

 

[dynamic_entry]

Samus, Zero Suit Samus, and Dark Samus?

That's a bit much.

you can NEVER have too much samus.

 

[Gindor]

you can NEVER have too much samus.

I don't know....