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I actually really like that thought process for Dixie (although, if were going the DKC3 route, Kiddy Kong echo of DK???)
Dear lord think of the trolling Sakurai would have done if we got kiddy kong over dixie kong haha
A Wolf/Lucas situation is what I'm betting on too, but I'm unsure if she'd labeled an Echo then.
Yeah, the community heavily requests Dixie, a character consistently used in the DK games, and we get the baby that hasn't been seen since.
The echo terminology is a bit silly to be honest - or should I say, the self-imposed rules. Sakurai doesn't really follow them, as shown with Chrom, so I could see the majority of her attacks being the same except for her recovery and throws - perhaps some of her animations use her hair, but have the same hitbox as Diddy.
That works for me! Lucas is one of my faves! So glad he wasn't cut tbh xD Would you guy's be satisfied with Lucas/Wolf style Dixie?
Yeah the echo debate is... odd. We know Pichu, Young link, and Dr. Mario are not labled as echos, but chrom is, who feels like he would be the same camp as those other 3... its possible that an echo can be an echo as long as its taking moves from someone in the game, even if its not that same person. Dr. Mario has a few unique moves to himself, a bunch maybe. Young Link is basically has unique arrows, and bombs, and maybe some other changes as well. Pichu has the whole hurt himself thing, and maybe some moves Pikachu stopped having since melee.
Honestly, I think the 'Echo' title is for characters that Sakurai would have made into costumes - and since the new characters he was going to make into costumes were Lucina and Dark Pit, I think that's why they got the labelling and the previous characters didn't. Now that they aren't costumes, he can make subtle differences to them. I think from this point, an echo will be a character that borrows most of their moveset from another fighter, and has animation differences. I even think height and weight of the character being different could still warrant being an echo.
More than satisfied! A Wolf or Lucas-level moveset would put such a good spin on Dixie, and I'd be very happy to play as her.
Well for sure her Up B would be her spin, which would be based on DK's, but maybe add the act that she falls slower after it, like in her games.
Don't forget her mid-air jump and hair ground-pound from Tropical Freeze. She could also use her hair as her grab. Damn, her hair does have potential for an interesting moveset.
Diddy doesn't use his tail much in melee other then his extrended jab right?
Diddy wasn't in Melee. He uses a tail in both Brawl and Smash 4.
I'd like to submit my Fsmash idea from the moveset I made. Dixie coils inward, wrapping her hair around her and throws it out in front of her. Upon hit, Dixie grabs her opponent and spins them around her once before throwing them away at a horizontal angle. On whiff, it has punishable endlag. This is Dixie's strongest kill move, but is risky.
Sorry I meant just smash in general. How many moves use his tail?
his rapid jab and his ledge attack, that's pretty much it
if thats it then Dixie shouldn't have much issue having different versions of those moves, if Diddy kept them, while still fitting an Echo definition.
I'd just say dixie kiddy team, skroo the echos
That's where the problem comes in. Diddy doesn't rely on his tail but Dixie relies on her hair, if Diddy had a moveset where his tail covered many of his attacks, grabs/throws and movement then a Dixie that echoes him would be A-OK. The fact that he only has 2 tail moves in his entire set is why it doesn't fit when people say "Just replace the tail attacks with hair moves."
Agreed! Even then, something like replacing a tail-based attack to a hair-based one is something we have not seen in any of the Echoes...
Ok good stuff, what kind of kill power we talking? Think using it on Mario from the default training mode spawn on FD. Marth's F Smash kills at 57, Ike's and Ness's at 64 etc.
Yeah, and from what I've seen of the new Echoes and know about Dark Pit and Lucina, those characters still don't differ from their base fighters in terms of attacks. Dixie shouldn't be seen as a Diddy reskin waiting to happen, and with each Kong standing out from the others it'd be nice for Dixie as well.
This. I think it'd be best-case scenario that'd please both parties of devs and fans. Such a shame making semi-clones is much harder these days due so many characters that needs to be implemented in each Smash-installment.
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is featuring a challenge where each user involved makes a moveset idea for Dixie. Feel free to join in if you want.
I want her guitar to be a final smash.
I had been expecting this since forever. It makes the most sense. Yet am not sure what to expect right now.
Would it function like DK's old Final Smash? Or would it be a cinematic type FS like Duck Hunt or Shulk? Also feel free to include the damage it would deal, it's a Final Smash so I'd expect some reasonably big numbers! Also what song would you have her play?
Hmm, it wouldn't be like DK's since they are aiming for shorter final smashes now.
Oh I merely meant hitting in shockwaves around her in an AoE like PK Starstorm, not the lengthy button pressing game. I was asking if he'd prefer it hit the map and affect the area, or if it would produce a single hitbox that, if it catches an opponent, does a powerful cinematic attack like Falcon, Shulk, Duck Hunt, Wario etc.
Funky is for DK echo. Kiddy should be condemned to eternal Beaver Bother torture. With reversed controls.
