Apparently all the Meta Knights in the entire Midwest are not very serious...But just remember this: no Jigglypuff is ever going to beat a MK who knows what he's doing and is taking the match very seriously.
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Apparently all the Meta Knights in the entire Midwest are not very serious...But just remember this: no Jigglypuff is ever going to beat a MK who knows what he's doing and is taking the match very seriously.
The meteknights did not even have jigglypuffs name in their match up guide. Ok we really need some meteknight user input here..Apparently all the Meta Knights in the entire Midwest are not very serious...
Go above it.yeah jiggs cant do anything about her fair except a pound, and fair is a lot easier to space
How did you do it?I gimped OS once. >_> No real point to me adding this, just saying...
Yes, Peach's fair is crazy smart and has a lot of 'dem mindgames. We sat down the other day and had a long discussion on philosophy, economics, and the nature of man's inalienable rights. Peach's fair might be one of the most intelligent and--peach's fair is crazy, there are so many mindgames to it and so many different ways she can use it.
Ike's retreating f air outranges Jiggly's arieals. He can sheild your attacks if you get in and then counter with his jab. Then his back air will kill you at ridicously low %. He is not as easy to gimp as you think, if he dosn't have to use his side b to get back to the stage he will get back to the stage. Ike up b is very hard to stop because he will have done it before you even get the chance to hit him.Ike has us at 60... huh? Ike, who can't hit us with anything but jabs and is gimped incredibly easily, has an advantage against Jiggs? When I played Mr. Doom in several games recently, who I consider a better and smarter player than me, I think I won a majority. (Close games though!)
his fair is nothing like peach's. his has lag and hers does not. shield approaching works well for ikes trying to camp u with fair.All that is true, but that's just it; it's not like Ike has a lot of options or the speed to make the options he has hard to avoid. (Besides jab)
His fair is like Peach's and his bair is like Pit's; scary, but you know they are there and can avoid them to a good degree.
Obviously Ike's fair and Peach's fair are nothing alike mechanically, except in the vague sense that both have good range and can KO. The point was that their value to the matchup is diminished despite being a good option, because there aren't any other good options.His fair is like Peach's and his bair is like Pit's; scary, but you know they are there and can avoid them to a good degree.
That's what I'm wondering.Just wondering, why are we talking about a whole bunch of different characters when the thread specifically says Metaknight and Snake??
Shine, Laser, and Bair.Otherwise, I wanna talk about Wolf, and I'm sure everyone else has their own ideas for matchups to discuss. Not like we have any other posts to organize or sort through.
It might work. Her Usmash has bogus range and deceptive priority.SH bair spam is just awful, I have no idea how to deal with it. Wait, would DACUS work?
Hmm...
Miss with pound against Wolf and you'll get a bair in the face.It probably does, but the issue is the speed at which Wolf is able to rapidly do it. Instead of the normal situation of just reading an attack, you have to read precisely when he is going to do it since you have such a small window. Maybe others don't have issue with it, but I certainly do.
...though if anyone listening thinks they should go Wolf against me, prepare for a Ness surprise...
What i've been thinking recently. If your a stock ahead with jiggly, is it worth it to rest them at low % and know that your too low for them to kill? The flower effect deals quite a bit of damage and their fully charged smash probably dosn't deal as much.
I dissagree with that. Peach has the advantage but just slight. Her movement almost never leaves her vulnerable. Her smashes are fast, and her d-smash hinders the safety of the ledge that we so gratefully take advantage of.About Peach:
NikoK admitted that Jiggs has the advantage, although only slight. Yeah, THAT NikoK. We have the advantage.
Sorry if I was unclear about that. The parasol is simply an small annoyance in gimping her recovery. I didn't mean that the parasol is a great asset to peach mains. It sounds pretty stupid now that you mention it. lolPeach is mobile, but if you are letting Peach frequently out-maneuver Jigglypuff, something is wrong.
As for turnips, why not just catch them?
As for parasol being something in Peach's favor... huh?
I was refering to off stage, but you're probobly not refering to that statement.If Peach is parasoling and isn't below Jigglypuff, best case for her is getting a bair and worst case is a Rest or Rollout.
i second this.I believe the match up is 45:55 Peach's favor, or maybe even.