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This thread is a collection of all of the "golden nuggets" of information that I could find while mining through the 650+ pages of the main Ganondorf, thread "How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?."

This does not include information outside of that particular thread as I really wanted to get something started to making these boards more organized. It has been discussed many times before that it would be beneficial to go through the entire thread and collect all the good bits of information so that no one else has to dig for it and information doesn't have to be repeated while also being easily accessible.

Of course keep in mind that there are probably some tidbits of information in that thread that I skimmed over or just plain missed when going through. If you feel like you contributed something to the development of Ganondorf and I didn't post it in this thread, please let me know with a link to your content and I will be sure to add it.

Without further adieu, here is what I've collected:

- Linguini on Fox matchup – 1/28/2009

- Magus on positions of control stick for pivoting, dash attacking, and fsmashing – 4/17/2009

- Tipman on Peach stuff – 4/20/2009

- Magus on holding control stick down at an angle to jab out of a CC – 5/1/2009

- Magus on comboing upsmash from dair with percentage chart updated by Locke Robster – 5/18/2009

- Magus on ASDI and SDI – 5/22/2009

- Magus on catching turnips – 12/19/2009

- ACE on a bunch of Fox stuff – 3/9/2011

- Magus on turning animation and grabbing and JC grabbing – 9/13/2011

- Kage goes into depth on his decision making vs Hax at Rom 4 – 1/15/2012 – Part 1, Part 2

- Vudujin on Ganon vs Luigi – 9/7/2012

- Renth on himself in the early days – 11/4/2013

- Locke Robster on Tech-chasing theorycrafting – 2/16/2014

- Locke Robster on moves used for tech-chasing – 2/17/2014

- Kadano showing Ganon’s 18 frames of intangibility from sweet-spot up-b ledge hop – 3/5/2014

- Renth on Ganon vs Ice Climbers – 3/11/2014 – Part 1, Part 2

- Renth on Ganon Dittos – 3/12/2014

- Renth critiquing tm’s matches – 3/17/2014

- Renth’s Matchup guide on ICs, Ganon Dittos, and Sheik – 3/12/2014

- Spider Sense on Ganon vs Sheik – 4/11/2014

- Kage on Sheik and other things – 5/5/2014

- Ace on approaching Marth – 5/6/2014

- Ace resurrects Magus shield grabbing Falco info with gifs – 5/20/2014

- Ace on Falcon, Marth, and Sheik stuff – 9/1/2014

- PseudoTurtle on Samus – 9/24/2014

- Plup on Ganon vs Samus – 9/25/2014

- Kage on Puff – 9/17/2014

- PseudoTurtle analyzing the first stock of Bizzarro Flame vs Darkrain at BH4 – 10/21/2014

- Spider Sense links Street Fighter Fundamental videos – 10/21/2014

- Locke Robster on Wall Jump Ledge-Teching – 10/27/2014

- Locke Robster on two different solo training methods – 11/5/2014

- Ace gives Marth tips – 11/16/2014

- Ace linking to Magus post on Ganon downthrow follow ups on Peach – 11/21/2014

- Locke Robster on SH perfect waveland – 1/11/2015

- Locke Robster on Ganondorf stage things – 2/8/2015

- Locke Robster on 10 basic fundamentals of Melee – 2/11/2015

- Locke Robster on Grabbing Puff – 2/17/2015

- Locke Robster on giving Grim mentality advice for tournament settings – 2/21/2015

- Kage gives Locke Robster good mentality advice – 2/23/2015

- Locke Robster gets 20XX debug mode and finds cool things – 2/27/2015

- Grim on n0ne using turnips against Peach – 3/3/2015

- Locke Robster on Falco laser and shield pressure frame data and covering Fox up-b to the ledge – 3/11/2015

- Locke Robster on Down-B spike trading with Fox’s up-b charge – 3/20/2015

- Zigludo on follow ups on Sheik after dair to dsmash – 3/21/2015 - Part 1, Part 2

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Falco – 3/21/2015 - Part 1, Part 2

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Marth – 3/21/2015

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Falcon – 3/21/2015

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Fox – 3/22/2015

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on all top tiers – 3/22/2015

- Zigludo on CC and ASDI and when Falcon can CC/ASDI Ganon’s side-b – 3/23/2015

- Zigludo giving info for the rest of the top 8 for CC/ASDIing side-b – 3/23/2015

- Locke Robster on optimal aerial timings – 4/7/2015

- Locke Robster on optimal Tipman timings 4/19/2015

- Locke Robster on intangible ledge-hop upair – 4/19/2015

- Tm on dair followups – 4/21/2015

- Locke Robster on Ganon v Falcon in best of 5 – 5/3/2015

- Locke Robster posts his Fox notes – 5/3/2015

- Tm on Ganon/Peach in Doubles – 5/5/2015

- Locke Robster on actionable frames on FFers between downthrow and upthrow – 6/3/2015

- Kage on mentality while improving – 6/16/2015

- Linguini provides a little tidbit on the Luigi matchup – 6/26/2015

- ACE writes a bunch of mixups and other stuff – 7/25/2015

- ACE on when Falco lands on side platforms from downthrow – 8/6/2015

- Grim on upthrow to platforms – 8/7/2015

- ACE on when upthrow is a good option – 8/13/2015

- Locke Robster on how to not get shine spiked by Fox – 8/16/2015

- Locke Robster on good fair timings and ASDI down Sheik ftilt – 8/17/2015

- Locke Robster on waveland swag at the beginning of a match – 8/19/2015

- Coastward makes a thread on the frame advantages Ganon has when certain characters whiff a shield grab – 8/22/2015

- Coastward provides gifs to show AC FH nair to jab/grab on BF side platforms as shield pressure – 8/22/2015

- Locke Robster on edgeguarding Samus and general ICs stuff – 8/24/2015

- Eikelmann talks about PAL Ganondorf – 9/1/2015

- Locke Robster on ledge options and ledge frame stuff – 9/4/2015

- Renth on philosophy of playing Ganondorf – 9/9/2015

- Grim on Doc matchup stuff – 9/22/2015

- Pseudoturtle on more Doc stuff – 9/22/2015

- Locke Robster on Neutral with Ganondorf – 10/10/2015

- Locke Robster on WF spiking and spamming moves philosophy – 10/26/2015

- Locke Robster on platforms uses on the various stages – 10/26/2015

- Locke Robster proposes strategies for a match depending on stock count between players – 10/28/2015

- Grim on Running shield drop aerials – 12/1/2015

- Tm on punishing Sheik dsmash on shield – 1/3/2016

- Grim on his Ganon Theory – 1/3/2016

- Locke Robster on Ganon’s grab in neutral and reactions – 1/4/2016

- ACE on CG stuff – 1/5/2016

- ACE on dair KO percents on top tier characters – 1/9/2016

- ACE on Ganon Dittos – 1/10/2016

- ACE on optimal pivot bair inputs – 1/10/2016

- ACE on untechable stomp – 1/11/2016

- Waldoring provides untechable stomp gif and explains more on how it works – 1/11/2016

- ACE on follow ups on untechable stomp – 1/13/2016

- Locke Robster on nair and upair against Falcon – 1/13/2016

- Locke Robster on Defensive Ganon play – 1/20/2016

- ACE gives a basic percent flow chart to what moves to do on FFers – 1/21/2016

- Pseudoturtle gives a really good analysis on the Falco matchup with youtube links and examples – 1/24/2016

- Locke Robster on implementing new tech for tournament/ mentality advice – 2/2/2016

- Locke Robster warns about the comfort zone – 2/3/2016

- Locke Robster on nair’s potential usefulness in neutral and knockdown potential – 2/11/2016

- Grim on fsmash kill percents on Sheik using ikneedata.com – 2/23/2016

- Locke Robster on Ganon’s CC options against Puff – 3/2/2016

- Pseudoturtle on Dart!’s ability to edgeguard and play vs Ganon – 3/7/2016

- ACE on DIing when you get hit – 3/20/2016

- Tm on RLD frame windows – 3/29/2016

- ACE on Marth stuff – 4/12/2016

- Locke Robster on countering Fox approaches – 5/2/2016

- Grim on the Falco CG – 5/14/2016

- Grim on more Falco CG stuff – 5/17/2016

--- **NEW** ---

- Spider Sense on upsmash out of shield uses - 5/21/2016

- Locke Robster on Puff Stuff - 5/22/2016

- Grim on even more Falco CG Stuff - 5/23/2016

- tm seeks helps on the pikachu matchup, gets many helpful replies - 6/3/2016:
----------- Grim's Response
----------- Swagic's Response
----------- Mr. Cochise's Response
----------- Locke Robster's Response

- Locke Robster on Puff and Pika neutral mindset and edgeguarding Pikachu - 6/4/2016

- Diosama invades Pikachu R&D dicord and asks about Ganon matchup - 6/6/2016

- tauKhan on the usefulness of untechable dair - 6/14/2016

- tm shows that up-b oos shield as a punish for Fox/Falco's utilt is NOT guaranteed - 6/21/2016

- Locke Robster on neutral game vs Falco - 6/29/2016

- Locke Robster Analyzes Linguini vs MacD at CEO 2016 - 6/30/2016

- Waldoring explains the ECB when it comes to ledge techs - 7/8/2016

- Linguini on Ganon meta stuff - 7/18/2016

- Bl@ckChris on Ganon neutral in the current meta and why it's really hard - 7/19/2016

- tauKhan gives %s that Ganon's moves break Yoshi's DJ armor - 8/9/2016

- PseudoTurtle on the Yoshi matchup - 8/9/2016

- -ACE- on more Marth stuff - 8/31/2016

- Locke Robster on Ganon playing on average and peak performances - 8/31/2016

- Grim also on Ganon meta stuff - 8/31/2016

- Grim on flowchart edgeguarding Peach - 9/9/2016
 
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This thread is a collection of all of the "golden nuggets" of information that I could find while mining through the 650+ pages of the main Ganondorf, thread "How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?."

This does not include information outside of that particular thread as I really wanted to get something started to making these boards more organized. It has been discussed many times before that it would be beneficial to go through the entire thread and collect all the good bits of information so that no one else has to dig for it and information doesn't have to be repeated while also being easily accessible.

Of course keep in mind that there are probably some tidbits of information in that thread that I skimmed over or just plain missed when going through. If you feel like you contributed something to the development of Ganondorf and I didn't post it in this thread, please let me know with a link to your content and I will be sure to add it.

Without further adieu, here is what I've collected:

- Linguini on Fox matchup – 1/28/2009

- Magus on positions of control stick for pivoting, dash attacking, and fsmashing – 4/17/2009

- Tipman on Peach stuff – 4/20/2009

- Magus on holding control stick down at an angle to jab out of a CC – 5/1/2009

- Magus on comboing upsmash from dair with percentage chart updated by Locke Robster – 5/18/2009

- Magus on ASDI and SDI – 5/22/2009

- Magus on catching turnips – 12/19/2009

- ACE on a bunch of Fox stuff – 3/9/2011

- Magus on turning animation and grabbing and JC grabbing – 9/13/2011

- Kage goes into depth on his decision making vs Hax at Rom 4 – 1/15/2012 – Part 1, Part 2

- Vudujin on Ganon vs Luigi – 9/7/2012

- Renth on himself in the early days – 11/4/2013

- Locke Robster on Tech-chasing theorycrafting – 2/16/2014

- Locke Robster on moves used for tech-chasing – 2/17/2014

- Kadano showing Ganon’s 18 frames of intangibility from sweet-spot up-b ledge hop – 3/5/2014

- Renth on Ganon vs Ice Climbers – 3/11/2014 – Part 1, Part 2

- Renth on Ganon Dittos – 3/12/2014

- Renth critiquing tm’s matches – 3/17/2014

- Renth’s Matchup guide on ICs, Ganon Dittos, and Sheik – 3/12/2014

- Spider Sense on Ganon vs Sheik – 4/11/2014

- Kage on Sheik and other things – 5/5/2014

- Ace on approaching Marth – 5/6/2014

- Ace resurrects Magus shield grabbing Falco info with gifs – 5/20/2014

- Ace on Falcon, Marth, and Sheik stuff – 9/1/2014

- PseudoTurtle on Samus – 9/24/2014

- Plup on Ganon vs Samus – 9/25/2014

- Kage on Puff – 9/17/2014

- PseudoTurtle analyzing the first stock of Bizzarro Flame vs Darkrain at BH4 – 10/21/2014

- Spider Sense links Street Fighter Fundamental videos – 10/21/2014

- Locke Robster on Wall Jump Ledge-Teching – 10/27/2014

- Locke Robster on two different solo training methods – 11/5/2014

- Ace gives Marth tips – 11/16/2014

- Ace linking to Magus post on Ganon downthrow follow ups on Peach – 11/21/2014

- Locke Robster on SH perfect waveland – 1/11/2015

- Locke Robster on Ganondorf stage things – 2/8/2015

- Locke Robster on 10 basic fundamentals of Melee – 2/11/2015

- Locke Robster on Grabbing Puff – 2/17/2015

- Locke Robster on giving Grim mentality advice for tournament settings – 2/21/2015

- Kage gives Locke Robster good mentality advice – 2/23/2015

- Locke Robster gets 20XX debug mode and finds cool things – 2/27/2015

- Grim on n0ne using turnips against Peach – 3/3/2015

- Locke Robster on Falco laser and shield pressure frame data and covering Fox up-b to the ledge – 3/11/2015

- Locke Robster on Down-B spike trading with Fox’s up-b charge – 3/20/2015

- Zigludo on follow ups on Sheik after dair to dsmash – 3/21/2015 - Part 1, Part 2

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Falco – 3/21/2015 - Part 1, Part 2

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Marth – 3/21/2015

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Falcon – 3/21/2015

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on Fox – 3/22/2015

- Zigludo on dair to dsmash on all top tiers – 3/22/2015

- Zigludo on CC and ASDI and when Falcon can CC/ASDI Ganon’s side-b – 3/23/2015

- Zigludo giving info for the rest of the top 8 for CC/ASDIing side-b – 3/23/2015

- Locke Robster on optimal aerial timings – 4/7/2015

- Locke Robster on optimal Tipman timings 4/19/2015

- Locke Robster on intangible ledge-hop upair – 4/19/2015

- Tm on dair followups – 4/21/2015

- Locke Robster on Ganon v Falcon in best of 5 – 5/3/2015

- Locke Robster posts his Fox notes – 5/3/2015

- Tm on Ganon/Peach in Doubles – 5/5/2015

- Locke Robster on actionable frames on FFers between downthrow and upthrow – 6/3/2015

- Kage on mentality while improving – 6/16/2015

- Linguini provides a little tidbit on the Luigi matchup – 6/26/2015

- ACE writes a bunch of mixups and other stuff – 7/25/2015

- ACE on when Falco lands on side platforms from downthrow – 8/6/2015

- Grim on upthrow to platforms – 8/7/2015

- ACE on when upthrow is a good option – 8/13/2015

- Locke Robster on how to not get shine spiked by Fox – 8/16/2015

- Locke Robster on good fair timings and ASDI down Sheik ftilt – 8/17/2015

- Locke Robster on waveland swag at the beginning of a match – 8/19/2015

- Coastward makes a thread on the frame advantages Ganon has when certain characters whiff a shield grab – 8/22/2015

- Coastward provides gifs to show AC FH nair to jab/grab on BF side platforms as shield pressure – 8/22/2015

- Locke Robster on edgeguarding Samus and general ICs stuff – 8/24/2015

- Eikelmann talks about PAL Ganondorf – 9/1/2015

- Locke Robster on ledge options and ledge frame stuff – 9/4/2015

- Renth on philosophy of playing Ganondorf – 9/9/2015

- Grim on Doc matchup stuff – 9/22/2015

- Pseudoturtle on more Doc stuff – 9/22/2015

- Locke Robster on Neutral with Ganondorf – 10/10/2015

- Locke Robster on WF spiking and spamming moves philosophy – 10/26/2015

- Locke Robster on platforms uses on the various stages – 10/26/2015

- Locke Robster proposes strategies for a match depending on stock count between players – 10/28/2015

- Grim on Running shield drop aerials – 12/1/2015

- Tm on punishing Sheik dsmash on shield – 1/3/2016

- Grim on his Ganon Theory – 1/3/2016

- Locke Robster on Ganon’s grab in neutral and reactions – 1/4/2016

- ACE on CG stuff – 1/5/2016

- ACE on dair KO percents on top tier characters – 1/9/2016

- ACE on Ganon Dittos – 1/10/2016

- ACE on optimal pivot bair inputs – 1/10/2016

- ACE on untechable stomp – 1/11/2016

- Waldoring provides untechable stomp gif and explains more on how it works – 1/11/2016

- ACE on follow ups on untechable stomp – 1/13/2016

- Locke Robster on nair and upair against Falcon – 1/13/2016

- Locke Robster on Defensive Ganon play – 1/20/2016

- ACE gives a basic percent flow chart to what moves to do on FFers – 1/21/2016

- Pseudoturtle gives a really good analysis on the Falco matchup with youtube links and examples – 1/24/2016

- Locke Robster on implementing new tech for tournament/ mentality advice – 2/2/2016

- Locke Robster warns about the comfort zone – 2/3/2016

- Locke Robster on nair’s potential usefulness in neutral and knockdown potential – 2/11/2016

- Grim on fsmash kill percents on Sheik using ikneedata.com – 2/23/2016

- Locke Robster on Ganon’s CC options against Puff – 3/2/2016

- Pseudoturtle on Dart!’s ability to edgeguard and play vs Ganon – 3/7/2016

- ACE on DIing when you get hit – 3/20/2016

- Tm on RLD frame windows – 3/29/2016

- ACE on Marth stuff – 4/12/2016

- Locke Robster on countering Fox approaches – 5/2/2016

- Grim on the Falco CG – 5/14/2016

- Grim on more Falco CG stuff – 5/17/2016
You my friend are a legend for doing this!
 
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