Meta "The Final Content" [1.1.4] Patch Discussion

[Shaya]

Welcome to the 'official' discussion thread for the 1.1.4 patch, which has just started to hit WiiUs shortly before this.

We will hand out large infractions and/or temporary bans to those who stifle this process of patch note exploration
Some examples include
1. Posting false changes, good intentions or not.
2. Asking if anything has changed when the patch notes are there for you to read.
3. Immature behaviour and complaining over the patch changes.

When checking changes some good rules of thumb are:
1. 3DS and WiiU stages have different blast zones, even those shared (Battlefield/Final Destination/etc); comparisons between the two for knockback is not accurate
2. Percent values taken from proper matches (non-training mode) have scaling adjustments based on it's current freshness; a 1% difference seen in a match may not be a real patch change and should be double checked before being posted.
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The official patch notes can be found here:http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-4-patch-notes.430023/
Only trusted users can post there, and we will move confirmed posts into it from this thread as they come as well!

 

[LRodC]

Can the text color for the patch notes be changed to white? Dark purple is hard to read.

Edit: Thanks, that was quick.

 

[Gunla]

Can the text color for the patch notes be changed to white? Dark purple is hard to read.

My apologies, I meant to fix that up; it has been set to default.

 

[Shaya]

As a starter, a free for all video provided for Bayonetta/Corin showed (will need in-game confirmation first that)

Marth has
Forward Air Tipper damage increased 10% -> 12%
Up Air Tipper damage increased 12% -> 13%

This will likely apply to Lucina in some capacity too. Sour spot damages are also likely adjusted.

 

[Thirtyfour]

*complains about the final patch not introducing the Final Fantasy character*

 

[MOI-ARI]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

I hate that song because that commercial....you know which one...


cuz i don't remember whats its for lol

 

[Mazdamaxsti]

it might just be placebo but i swear sonic is the fastest character now

In all seriousness, I just wanted to hijack first page to say please don't do what I just did, if you think it might be placebo, don't post it here saying so. It fits in with the false info but we all know it happens anways and is annoying. Happy findings.

 

[Furret24]

Wow.

I'm reloading the page every ten seconds and the amount of people viewing is going up over 100 each refresh.

 

[Conda]

Can't wait to see what has changed. Maybe I'll have to actually make a youtube video again...

 

[LancerStaff]

When checking changes some good rules of thumb are:
1. 3DS and WiiU stages have different blast zones, even those shared (Battlefield/Final Destination/etc); comparisons between the two for knockback is not accurate.

DLC Omegas + Omega Duck Hunt are the same, or pretty darned close. ...Okay, maybe they fixed that in 1.1.4. Still downloading for me so I can't reconfirm that.

 

[BSP]

My Wii u said 30 minutes for this thing? Is it this long for everyone or is my internet just bad? If the former, there may be loads of stuff.

 

[LancerStaff]

My Wii u said 30 minutes for this thing? Is it this long for everyone or is my internet just bad? If the former, there may be loads of stuff.

That'd be Bayo's songs, included in the update and not the DLC. DLC's basically a key.

My 3DS is half finished already, so it's not terribly big without 'em.

 

[the_muffin]

My Wii u said 30 minutes for this thing? Is it this long for everyone or is my internet just bad? If the former, there may be loads of stuff.

My download for the patch started at 13 minutes. The patch is around 1600 megabytes, which is a lot. I assume most of that is from Umbra Clock Tower and the new music for the Fire Emblem stages.

 

[ILOVESMASH]

Downloaded the patch, some changes to marth

• Tipper fair does 11%, sourspot 8
• tipper uair does 13%, sourspot 9%
• Tipper dair does 15%, sourspot 12%
• Sweetspots seem noticably easier to land ( might need more testing).

 

[-RedX-]

Ike:
Nair: 9%->10%
Fair: 12%->13%

 

[san.]

nair: 9->10%
fair: 12->13%

 

[FullMoon]

Shadow Sneak Hitstun Cancel is still in.

 

[arbustopachon]

No % changes for charizard.

 

[PineappleTheft]

Lucina has a buff to her Bair is now between 11 and 12 per hit (think around 11.75) from 9.975 (per Kuroganne Hammer)

 

[Ray_Kalm]

nair: 9->10%, knockback adjustment
fair: 12->13%

Not quite sure about:
nair landing lag decrease

Something feels off(placebo?):
quick draw's movement after release.
uair hitbox change

Ike just keep getting better. He was already pretty viable previous patch. His nair could also combo easier into strings with the new adjustment.

 

[itsmeMOB]

Any ZSS or Little Mac changes?

 

[FullMoon]

Greninja seems to be unchanged unless it's something really small.

 

[Wintermelon43]

Any ZSS or Little Mac changes?

Idk, but just checked ZSS up b and it seems to not be differant

Sorry to be the first to announce such bad news

Edit:Meta Knight's Up B also seems to not be differant

 

[Shaya]

Downloaded the patch, some changes to marth

• Tipper fair does 11%, sourspot 8
• tipper uair does 13%, sourspot 9%
• Tipper dair does 15%, sourspot 12%
• Sweetspots seem noticably easier to land ( might need more testing).

^ that indicates the free for all video we watched was an edition earlier than what we're getting now then.
NAIROINJAPAN COMMENTS ARE ALL WRONG.

[it took me 500 hours to be able to post this]

 

[Petroklos]

No changes on Samus's damage. Unless it's something like +.5 or even less.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Btw, the patch notes main page http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-4-patch-notes.430023/ is missing a bunch of characters. The ones I've noticed:

Falco, Jigglypuff, Mario, Toon Link, Game & Watch, Peach, Zero Suit Samus, Olimar, Rosalina, and Ryu.

 

[LadyEbony]

As far as I can tell, there are no % changes on Peach. However, I would like someone else to confirm for me.

 

[Yikarur]

nah
Marth tipper fair does 11,5% Base damage now. So it does a fresh 12,075% in normal mode. The 13% seen in the footage was just decimals adding perfectly.

 

[Llumys]

Could someone check the landing lag on Marth's nair? I feel as though it's significantly less.

 

[Iron Maw]

^ that indicates the free for all video we watched was an edition earlier than what we're getting now then.
NAIROINJAPAN COMMENTS ARE ALL WRONG.

[it took me 500 hours to be able to post this]

Ehm, correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't he actually say that he hadn't notice any changes among top 12 characters only?

Marth well... isn't exactly in that range.

 

[Linkshot]

checking Marth in training mode. fAir tipper is less than 12% but at least 11.5%. uAir does indeed deal straight 13%.
Lucina fAir is 10.5% and uAir is 11.4%

 

[Jaxas]

Hey guys, just confirming that ZSS still has RCO lag on boost kick.

 

[[n]ICE]

Could someone check Kirby's nair starting frames ? Seems kind of instant compared to what I'm used to

 

[Masonomace]

EDIT: Ignore this. I was incorrect.

 

[Fuerzo]

No % changes on Yoshi as far as I can tell. Raptor had a tweet about Yoshi losing his DJ armor, but that seems to be a joke.

 

[theanjo]

Duck Hunt's Down Throw is a combo throw now. Knockback is very noticeably low @ 0%. Up Air true combos at high percent for another example. Pretty sure there are more setups, but DHD boards probably got that covered.

 

[Luig]

Sonic's BSBS is still in.

 

[Kofu]

Corrin's water blasts count as energy projectiles and can be absorbed by Game & Watch, Ness, and Lucas.

 

[Krubby]

The cooldown of Dedede's nair landing feels significantly shorter. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Ultinarok]

I can second the Marth tipper changes. His first tipped nair hit does 5%...didn't it used to do 3%?

Also did GW always have a landing bair hit that does 3%? I know he didn't at launch.