The 'Dark Hunter' Awakens for Battle: Dark Samus ~SMASH CORRUPTED BY PHAZON

[MasterOfKnees]

Yo, check out her victory animation at the end of her character video:

Top drawer stuff.

 

[DuwangAnon]

Congrdadulations, guys!

 

[Zyphyris]

I was mostly silent during the direct, but Dark Samus was the first character to actually make me scream. (And one of the only 2 that weren't spoiled for me)

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Congrats, guys!

 

[Wolfie557]

i mean, we did it!!!!

Echo is still very good. And holy **** the victory animation!!!!

 

[mortal1385]

I wasn't expecting her to get in honestly but congrats to you guys for getting your character!

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Metroid is complete until Prime 4 makes Slyux important. Glad to come this far after taking over. Also, since I own this thread I will have dark samus as a secondary.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Congratulation, guys!

 

[AustarusIV]

I'm so freakin' happy to see Dark Samus actually playable. To me, Metroid representation is now perfect, I don't think there's anything else I want from the series in Smash, except for maybe Sylux (though I'm still waiting on their portrayal in MP4 to make any final thoughts).

 

[MattX20]

Congratulations.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

But I find it weird that Samus's Dark Samus alt has been removed. They wouldn't do that unless Dark Samus became playable.

And you called it 2 months ago lol

 

[Aetheri]

"Echo" fighter is appropriate I must say...

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Victory screen with her Dark Echo...

 

[AustarusIV]

Is this thread going to be moved over to the Samus/Dark Samus subforum or is it just going to remain here for some reason?

 

[SvartWolf]

Nice.. i honestly didn't saw DS worjing too much as an echo becasue how different she moves from samus... buuuut considering the ammount of work they put to adress that problem... i say this is amazing!

 

[Deleted member]

Dark Samus is in...
Awesome!
Congratulations!

 

[BravadoMan_13]

What a glorious day! I've been hyped for K. Rool, but at the same time I am so glad that Dark Samus got in too! It's amazing that in Ultimate, Metroid gets two newcomers in Ridley and Dark Samus after Samus was literally the only Metroid representative after four Smash games. I am extremely satisfied with Metroid representation as far as playable characters. I can't ask for anything more.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Congrats Dark Samus supporters. Although it would have been nice for her to be a semi-clone, being in is all that matters.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Shouldn't this thread be in the Dark Samus subforum by now?

Also, looks like we called it.

Congrats on getting in Miss America.

 

[smash puffle]

Congrats to you guys. Now when this will be moved to it's new home?

 

[The Goldenbrawler]

Will there be an eventual Dark Samus Discord group? That'd be pretty neat.

 

[smashingDoug]

I do hope he gets his prime 2 look as an alt

Never was against this character

 

[WertQuadNine]

Today... today has been a good day

I know plenty of us would've preferred an oc character, but I'm very happy with this result since it's much (much) better than nothing.

 

[QrowinSP]

Anyone know any differences between her and samus?

 

[meleebrawler]

Yo, check out her victory animation at the end of her character video:

Top drawer stuff.

You know, I think hers is the only showcase on the site that actually has a victory animation to show.

 

[TheTreasonousSnowmad]

My two most wanted were confirmed today, so yeah, Ultimate is an instant buy for me.

 

[Ura]

Congrats guys! And especially Aetheri who I know is ecstatic about this.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

I just realized that Dark Samus is the second character who got promoted from assist to playable. I hope a few others follow suit.

 

[Space Detective]

I just realized that Dark Samus is the second character who got promoted from assist to playable. I hope a few others follow suit.

And I very much hope it follows even into the DLC.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

Likewise. I'm wondering which other past assist trophies could get into the base roster. I feel that Issac has the best shot now. Dillon and Saki have a good shot at this point.

 

[FunAtParties]

Yo congrats y'all DS looks really good.

 

[Reila]

Likewise. I'm wondering which other past assist trophies could get into the base roster. I feel that Issac has the best shot now. Dillon and Saki have a good shot at this point.

Out of those I could definitely see Isaac, but not the others. That is, if Isaac isn't in the main roster. This game is focused on requested fighters, after all.

You know, I think hers is the only showcase on the site that actually has a victory animation to show.

That victory animation is such a tease. Imagine if Dark Samus had a moveset based on her "cloning" ability? That was one of the coolest things in her boss fight in Prime Echoes.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I just realized that Dark Samus is the second character who got promoted from assist to playable. I hope a few others follow suit.

Second Assist Trophy, third overall after Charizard from Melee to Brawl.

Ironcially, her floaty physics make more sense on her than the one she's echoing.

 

[Crystanium]

Soon everything will be corrupted. Including you.

 

[Ultinarok]

I think yesterday's direct made me a Dark Samus supporter. An unfortunate bias towards cookie cutter "Dark doubles" that linger all around Nintendo games made me avoid ever showing interest in the character, even though I knew full well she'd be far different than just "edgy Samus". I always thought she'd be cool but just never paid her any mind.

I'm starting to see how cool she is and how important and integral she is to Metroid, having never played a Prime game. A part of me now wishes she'd gotten better than an Echo and had been a semi clone instead. Nonetheless congrats guys, she looks awesome.

 

[BravadoMan_13]

And I very much hope it follows even into the DLC.

Out of those I could definitely see Isaac, but not the others. That is, if Isaac isn't in the main roster. This game is focused on requested fighters, after all.

That victory animation is such a tease. Imagine if Dark Samus had a moveset based on her "cloning" ability? That was one of the coolest things in her boss fight in Prime Echoes.

I agree with that Issac is the most likely among previous ATs to be a playable character. I think Saki and Dillon could be dark horse contenders that could surprise people. Depends on how many more ATs are left to reveal.

Second Assist Trophy, third overall after Charizard from Melee to Brawl.

Ironcially, her floaty physics make more sense on her than the one she's echoing.

Oh that's right I forgot about that.

 

[Space Detective]

I agree with that Issac is the most likely among previous ATs to be a playable character. I think Saki and Dillon could be dark horse contenders that could surprise people. Depends on how many more ATs are left to reveal.

I'm sure anyone could guess which AT I most want to see become playable.

Along with the obvious Ashley though, I'd love to see Zero make the leap.

 

[IsmaR]

I've been a bit delayed in my reactions, wasn't able to do much beyond watch the Direct yesterday (it's still only just now hitting me that it actually happened)

Having been one of the founders of the original Dark Samus for Smash thread/group on this site (Brawl being our first foray into the wonderful world that is Smash Bros. speculation disappointment, of course), I've always been hopeful that one day we would get more than just "a little love" for my favorite series. I've been equally hyped for Ridley each game, despite most seeing him as a counterpart ("only one or the other, not both" and being told neither would ever happen, making this all the sweeter). Unlike the disappointment with Ridley's previous portrayals that was commonplace (his boss iterations being more punching bag/pinata than bosses proper, the downgrade in design choice that was Other M, even neither version of Ridley's theme not playing on Norfair of all things, which has thankfully also been remedied this time around), I would just be glad whenever we would get Dark Samus acknowledged at all in game, given the reception for Prime is not nearly as well-off as it is primarily viewed as a western studio and the FPS (semantics aside) genre not doing as well in Japan as a whole. The trophy and stickers in Brawl were of MP2 model Dark Samus, given Prime 3 had actually not come out in Japan by that time, so the Mercenaries (what we went by at the time) had hoped that Dark Samus being added to Smash would in turn help further promote the source games there for people that were unfamiliar with her/Metroid Prime (reverse Corrin situation). Lo and behold, been seeing just that over the past day & 1/2 that it's been since the reveal.

Q.ダークサムスってどんな敵なの？
A.メトロイドプライム三部作に登場する最強の敵。サムスのDNAを基に誕生した超生命体で、危険な放射性物質・フェイゾンを吸収して無限大に強くなるぞ。強さとカリスマ性を兼ね備えた人気の高い悪役で、門弟となる者が後を絶たない。聖なるフェイゾンのお導きあれ！ pic.twitter.com/VP4G5Bi8n2

— わたりどりぃ🌸春爛漫 (@Wata_Ridley) August 8, 2018

Wiiであそぶ メトロイドプライム2 ダークエコーズ https://t.co/0mDSlI4YNp

メトロイドプライム3 コラプション - Wii https://t.co/wA1X0hOoyQ

ダークサムス様が大活躍する『ダークエコーズ』『コラプション』は名作。よいこのみんなは知ってるよね

— わたりどりぃ🌸春爛漫 (@Wata_Ridley) August 8, 2018

I tried to not get too excited as time passed and the original Metroid Prime trilogy strayed further from relevance, but still held all the hope even after Dark Samus was confirmed as both an assist and palette swap in Smash 4 (I didn't think of Echo Fighter/clones as we knew them at the time so much as I thought of Little Mac being able to make the jump/promotion to playable, but I also didn't dismiss the notion as a reason for/against Dark Samus in future titles). We hit an obvious low after 4 was said and done for Metroid representation in Smash, so things looked bleakest around the time Federation Force became known. It seemed Sakurai only cared about the "base Metroid" (original trilogy, with only 2 stages not being based on Zebes) and Samus alone (versions forms of her fighting aside) would carry the burden of representing a whole series, despite being there since 64, which makes it sound like she's akin to Captain Falcon (not a bad thing in the sense that I'm an F-Zero fan, but for being a supposed "major series" of Nintendo, that hurt deeply). More and more people grew resentful at every idea at the time for more Metroid representation (Ridley had the confirmation from Sakurai interviews as being too big/"wouldn't be himself anymore" if they changed his proportions, "Dark Samus would just be another Samus," Other M/FF sucked/didn't need representation and Sylux at the time had no Prime 4 confirmation or Wii U game period coming anytime soon). Despite the ballot seeming like a sinking ship along with any continued support threads once 4's DLC was over (locking some of the disconfirmed character threads such as Ridley's was hard for me to do despite it eventually being a unanimous decision among the staff), I held onto hope that "next time would be different" mentality in some tiny part of my mind. Stuff kind of blurred together at the time, at least until the rumors became more and more likely for things (Switch/NX, more interviews mentioning the plans for Prime 4/Sylux up until the eventual reveal of both that and Samus Returns etc.).

Coming into this specific pre-speculation cycle was equal parts unexpected and exciting (Inklings/a Switch Smash Bros getting revealed hit a "genuine excitement" high that I hadn't experienced for any other Smash reveal since Mewtwo returning was announced, and it lasted me all the way to E3). I hardly felt like tempering my expectations, given this time around seemed like it had all of the potential going in (didn't even care if it was "Switch port"), but given my natural pessimism I also didn't want to hold my breath for anything until we saw just what we were dealing with. Naturally, I was blown away by "Everyone is here" (leak implications aside, I wanted to see no cuts for the sake of building this up to be the ultimate Smash Bros, which wouldn't you know it they did exactly that), got utterly destroyed by finally getting Ridley playable (I didn't write one of these for him because so many others summed up my exact feelings on it), and was intrigued by the premise of Echo Fighters (I didn't think we needed to think "everyone could/should/would be an echo" by any means but I thought it gave a shot to those that would otherwise be seen as unlikely/impossible). Then as information started trickling down, we saw no signs of Dark Samus as an AT, and then the huge point that was Samus herself had an alteration to her black palette, and the rest was basically played out a few pages ago.

Had once again, no idea what to expect as this recent Direct started apart from having some suspicions (Simon leak the night before), went in with complete excitement from the start since we got the immediate trailer. I freaked out probably the hardest I could when I saw "2 new echo fighters," to the point of letting my voice get embarrassingly high pitched in the call I was in. Chrom was awesome to see solely for those that supported him the hardest throughout it all, and the small moment of "wait he has different moves from different characters" which shattered the whole "echo fighters have to be 1:1" left me completely vulnerable for what happened next. I heard the Metroid music and snapped back in, still in disbelief that by this point we got 3 character reveals and were about to get another. The intro to the song was met with me saying "Nooooooooooo, no way, nope this can't be" before the screen went from black to the blue entrance effect. Seeing the model left me dumbfounded, and the trailer played out with me as hyped as I could be. We got not just 1, but 2 new Metroid reps. After all those years of people saying it'd never happen. The scene in the gameplay footage of Ridley, Dark Samus, Mother Brain and a Metroid all next to each other was more than I could have dreamed even back during those super-hopeful/optimistic Brawl days. Then it was immediately followed by the scene of Dark Samus and Meta Ridley 2v1ing Samus (I'd say that sounds like a bad fanfic in any other context), which just drove the point home.

I love the model's attention to detail, animations, the personality in the attacks (see Super Missile animation), the references in the victory screen (assuming she's sharing Ridley's victory theme), and of course just how awesome it is seeing this be the actual "Metroid characters" section on the official Smash Bros website.

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I can completely see why people wouldn't be satisfied with Echo Fighter over being unique (or even a semiclone), but as I said before, this is a good start. And above all, I'm just happen to finally see my dream come to fruition. Seeing Ridley and Dark Samus will probably never stop being surreal after all this time.

Is this thread going to be moved over to the Samus/Dark Samus subforum or is it just going to remain here for some reason?

I was hesitant in moving this over because we already had a Social thread in the actual Samus/Dark Samus subforum (gonna take some time for me to get used to saying that). I figure since this thread came first, I can at least leave it up for a while so people can celebrate/post their reactions/etc. before locking it.

Of course this being the case only with TCT~Phantom permission.

Will there be an eventual Dark Samus Discord group? That'd be pretty neat.

The way the other echo fighter Discords have traditionally worked is the same way we have these subforums set up, with there being a single Discord to cover both (I'm at least aware that Marth/Lucina and Pit/Dark Pit do it this way). The Samus Discord just recently announced they're following the formers' example.

 

[AustarusIV]

I was hesitant in moving this over because we already had a Social thread in the actual Samus/Dark Samus subforum (gonna take some time for me to get used to saying that). I figure since this thread came first, I can at least leave it up for a while so people can celebrate/post their reactions/etc. before locking it.

Of course this being the case only with TCT~Phantom permission.

I'm just glad this thread made its way to its proper place, even if it's going to be locked. All the other character support threads that got confirmed yesterday were moved to their respective forums, so it feels right that the same follows through with the Dark Samus thread.

But yeah, it's honestly surreal that this is finally happening to Metroid, one of those franchises I always felt deep down would never get much love from Smash because of its relatively niche status in Japan. And that this just happens to be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, makes this the definitive Smash experience IMO.

 

[kamus_aran]

Non smash-related topic, do you think DS will return to MP4?

 

[BravadoMan_13]

I'm sure anyone could guess which AT I most want to see become playable.

Along with the obvious Ashley though, I'd love to see Zero make the leap.

K. Rool was my most wanted newcomer and now that K. Rool is konfirmed Waluigi has moved up to my most wanted newcomer overall. So yes he is the top AT for me to be playable someday. My other picks include Issac, Dillon, Saki, Krystal, Takamaru, Knuckles and maybe a few more.

I've been a bit delayed in my reactions, wasn't able to do much beyond watch the Direct yesterday (it's still only just now hitting me that it actually happened)

Having been one of the founders of the original Dark Samus for Smash thread/group on this site (Brawl being our first foray into the wonderful world that is Smash Bros. speculation disappointment, of course), I've always been hopeful that one day we would get more than just "a little love" for my favorite series. I've been equally hyped for Ridley each game, despite most seeing him as a counterpart ("only one or the other, not both" and being told neither would ever happen, making this all the sweeter). Unlike the disappointment with Ridley's previous portrayals that was commonplace (his boss iterations being more punching bag/pinata than bosses proper, the downgrade in design choice that was Other M, even neither version of Ridley's theme not playing on Norfair of all things, which has thankfully also been remedied this time around), I would just be glad whenever we would get Dark Samus acknowledged at all in game, given the reception for Prime is not nearly as well-off as it is primarily viewed as a western studio and the FPS (semantics aside) genre not doing as well in Japan as a whole. The trophy and stickers in Brawl were of MP2 model Dark Samus, given Prime 3 had actually not come out in Japan by that time, so the Mercenaries (what we went by at the time) had hoped that Dark Samus being added to Smash would in turn help further promote the source games there for people that were unfamiliar with her/Metroid Prime (reverse Corrin situation). Lo and behold, been seeing just that over the past day & 1/2 that it's been since the reveal.

Q.ダークサムスってどんな敵なの？
A.メトロイドプライム三部作に登場する最強の敵。サムスのDNAを基に誕生した超生命体で、危険な放射性物質・フェイゾンを吸収して無限大に強くなるぞ。強さとカリスマ性を兼ね備えた人気の高い悪役で、門弟となる者が後を絶たない。聖なるフェイゾンのお導きあれ！ pic.twitter.com/VP4G5Bi8n2

— わたりどりぃ🌸春爛漫 (@Wata_Ridley) August 8, 2018

Wiiであそぶ メトロイドプライム2 ダークエコーズ https://t.co/0mDSlI4YNp

メトロイドプライム3 コラプション - Wii https://t.co/wA1X0hOoyQ

ダークサムス様が大活躍する『ダークエコーズ』『コラプション』は名作。よいこのみんなは知ってるよね

— わたりどりぃ🌸春爛漫 (@Wata_Ridley) August 8, 2018

I tried to not get too excited as time passed and the original Metroid Prime trilogy strayed further from relevance, but still held all the hope even after Dark Samus was confirmed as both an assist and palette swap in Smash 4 (I didn't think of Echo Fighter/clones as we knew them at the time so much as I thought of Little Mac being able to make the jump/promotion to playable, but I also didn't dismiss the notion as a reason for/against Dark Samus in future titles). We hit an obvious low after 4 was said and done for Metroid representation in Smash, so things looked bleakest around the time Federation Force became known. It seemed Sakurai only cared about the "base Metroid" (original trilogy, with only 2 stages not being based on Zebes) and Samus alone (versions forms of her fighting aside) would carry the burden of representing a whole series, despite being there since 64, which makes it sound like she's akin to Captain Falcon (not a bad thing in the sense that I'm an F-Zero fan, but for being a supposed "major series" of Nintendo, that hurt deeply). More and more people grew resentful at every idea at the time for more Metroid representation (Ridley had the confirmation from Sakurai interviews as being too big/"wouldn't be himself anymore" if they changed his proportions, "Dark Samus would just be another Samus," Other M/FF sucked/didn't need representation and Sylux at the time had no Prime 4 confirmation or Wii U game period coming anytime soon). Despite the ballot seeming like a sinking ship along with any continued support threads once 4's DLC was over (locking some of the disconfirmed character threads such as Ridley's was hard for me to do despite it eventually being a unanimous decision among the staff), I held onto hope that "next time would be different" mentality in some tiny part of my mind. Stuff kind of blurred together at the time, at least until the rumors became more and more likely for things (Switch/NX, more interviews mentioning the plans for Prime 4/Sylux up until the eventual reveal of both that and Samus Returns etc.).

Coming into this specific pre-speculation cycle was equal parts unexpected and exciting (Inklings/a Switch Smash Bros getting revealed hit a "genuine excitement" high that I hadn't experienced for any other Smash reveal since Mewtwo returning was announced, and it lasted me all the way to E3). I hardly felt like tempering my expectations, given this time around seemed like it had all of the potential going in (didn't even care if it was "Switch port"), but given my natural pessimism I also didn't want to hold my breath for anything until we saw just what we were dealing with. Naturally, I was blown away by "Everyone is here" (leak implications aside, I wanted to see no cuts for the sake of building this up to be the ultimate Smash Bros, which wouldn't you know it they did exactly that), got utterly destroyed by finally getting Ridley playable (I didn't write one of these for him because so many others summed up my exact feelings on it), and was intrigued by the premise of Echo Fighters (I didn't think we needed to think "everyone could/should/would be an echo" by any means but I thought it gave a shot to those that would otherwise be seen as unlikely/impossible). Then as information started trickling down, we saw no signs of Dark Samus as an AT, and then the huge point that was Samus herself had an alteration to her black palette, and the rest was basically played out a few pages ago.

Had once again, no idea what to expect as this recent Direct started apart from having some suspicions (Simon leak the night before), went in with complete excitement from the start since we got the immediate trailer. I freaked out probably the hardest I could when I saw "2 new echo fighters," to the point of letting my voice get embarrassingly high pitched in the call I was in. Chrom was awesome to see solely for those that supported him the hardest throughout it all, and the small moment of "wait he has different moves from different characters" which shattered the whole "echo fighters have to be 1:1" left me completely vulnerable for what happened next. I heard the Metroid music and snapped back in, still in disbelief that by this point we got 3 character reveals and were about to get another. The intro to the song was met with me saying "Nooooooooooo, no way, nope this can't be" before the screen went from black to the blue entrance effect. Seeing the model left me dumbfounded, and the trailer played out with me as hyped as I could be. We got not just 1, but 2 new Metroid reps. After all those years of people saying it'd never happen. The scene in the gameplay footage of Ridley, Dark Samus, Mother Brain and a Metroid all next to each other was more than I could have dreamed even back during those super-hopeful/optimistic Brawl days. Then it was immediately followed by the scene of Dark Samus and Meta Ridley 2v1ing Samus (I'd say that sounds like a bad fanfic in any other context), which just drove the point home.

I love the model's attention to detail, animations, the personality in the attacks (see Super Missile animation), the references in the victory screen (assuming she's sharing Ridley's victory theme), and of course just how awesome it is seeing this be the actual "Metroid characters" section on the official Smash Bros website.

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I can completely see why people wouldn't be satisfied with Echo Fighter over being unique (or even a semiclone), but as I said before, this is a good start. And above all, I'm just happen to finally see my dream come to fruition. Seeing Ridley and Dark Samus will probably never stop being surreal after all this time.



I was hesitant in moving this over because we already had a Social thread in the actual Samus/Dark Samus subforum (gonna take some time for me to get used to saying that). I figure since this thread came first, I can at least leave it up for a while so people can celebrate/post their reactions/etc. before locking it.

Of course this being the case only with TCT~Phantom permission.



The way the other echo fighter Discords have traditionally worked is the same way we have these subforums set up, with there being a single Discord to cover both (I'm at least aware that Marth/Lucina and Pit/Dark Pit do it this way). The Samus Discord just recently announced they're following the formers' example.

Well said. I for once am completed satisfied with the Metroid playable character representation. Samus, Ridley, and Dark Samus are all I wanted and we got all three. It's literally perfect.