The Big MI Discussion Topic

[L_Cancel]

Alright. I'll do that then.

 

[Sumer]

Yeah~ Come on Friday. I'm going to a Smashfest. If you want to leave on Saturday with WTP that works too.

 

[DarkLouis331]

I'm gonna get raaaaaaped at Tech's tourney if I can go. Haven't played Brawl too much lately.

****.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

^ How goes the battle with corporate America?

 

[Sumer]

You don't have to play Brawl to be good at it. lol

 

[DarkLouis331]

Unsure. I'm gonna ask both guys I work with tomorrow.

Yeah, hopefully I can pull a Judge/Anther, get a few warm-ups in, and then still ****. lol

 

[Hot_ArmS]

I just ***** my first exam of the semester

now who wants to smash

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

I just ***** my first exam of the semester

now who wants to smash

Nothing to be proud of if it was an engineering exam

 

[Zankoku]

The real classes don't even have exams, because they're too busy teaching things that don't involve rote memorization.

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

YO there is nothing of the kind in physics and math ^_~

 

[DtJ Jungle]

L if you want to come earlier I have no class on friday.

 

[L_Cancel]

Oh word? o: WE COULD HANG OUT AND PLAY STUFF <3

 

[DRDN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_VLsAyfTw <<Jus1 vs DBPM apperantly i made them all full screen even though its set up for wide but atleast their on there

each video takes an hour to upload so their coming slowly but surely

 

[dablackpacman]

Ay I completely sucked in all those vids of me. I was legit all night till I went out wit don n jon (nomo) n then switched tvs n it was all downhill from there. Even lost to rye's falco, after I bruised him so hard he only want fox afterwards lol

 

[rokimomi]

Aight,

Melee, falco/fox vs shiek, how do I outspace the unspaceable(shiek)?

 

[Roller]

Yo, AA smash. Who's up for some games tonight? Hit me up.

 

[Kail]

Aight,

Melee, falco/fox vs shiek, how do I outspace the unspaceable(shiek)?

Here is what you do. Hit her and keep hitting her and then kill her.
Come to Salt and I'll show you things. ;D

 

[Roller]

nvm, we hittin' up the big EL.



Hype!!!

 

[rokimomi]

Here is what you do. Hit her and keep hitting her and then kill her.
Come to Salt and I'll show you things. ;D

What if I'm a stupid falco and won't lazer, can I get that first hit then? Hit them in real life perhaps?

Hella goin to salt tho, hopefully leavin wit the sugar, ^^.

 

[Kail]

Then laser more? And yes you can.
Just watch out for her key moves that tend to **** you when you get hit by them and learn their distance. Stay outside that distance and wait for either a move with a ton of lag or bait them into doing a move you can easily punish.

 

[Zankoku]

I lose to Fox and Falco all the time. In the case of Fox, you move so damn fast I'm not sure why you're having troubles with spacing. In the case of Falco... come on, we all know that dair beats just about anything that involves "spacing" and leads into even more dairs.

Really, all I do in those matchups with Sheik is guess where you're going to be in a second, and do whatever would win if you did in fact go there in the next second.

 

[rokimomi]

Any time I say spacing its usually cuz I'm NaCl at being shield grabbed 20 times in 1 game, lul, cant consistently bait rolls when the shield I'm baiting grabs me half the time, so he stays my teams char for now.

 

[Kail]

Shielding is pretty awful if you don't do things out of it and get grabbed a lot.
Stop getting grabbed by either being faster and neutral airing out of shield or spacing yourself better so you don't have to.

 

[Zankoku]

Just L-cancel and Shine.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Ankoku needs to come to things so I can learn to fight peach and see if i'm actually as good as I think i am vs sheik

 

[Kail]

Actually just shine. Always shine. Shine to shine combos **** and are fun. You even get some invincibility so shine more when you're about to get grabbed and you won't get grabbed because you shined.

 

[SCOTU]

falco's usmash > sheik.

Have you considered using ftilt until they get close and then utilting? Shoot some lasers if they're too far for an ftilt.

oh, and for fox it's easy:

land a shine (basically any attack and then shine works) then waveshine to the edge and dsmash her off. Get on the edge, right when she'd reappear, stand up (so your standup animation edgehogs). If they went for the edge, they died, and if they went for the stage, waveshine them across the stage, rinse and repeat.

as for shield grabs: if you're getting shield grabbed, you're either doing your attack before hitting their shield, or you're not fast falling. It's trivial to grab a fox (even if he L cancel's and shines) if you nair into a shield out of a full hop (w/ the nair before overlapping the shield) without fast falling.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

dang i didnt know it was that easy how come no one ever does it like that

 

[Zankoku]

My Sheik is pretty severely lower level than my Peach. She's only useful for, like, Marth players who are bad against Sheik. And matchups where she can chaingrab. Otherwise it's a case of "here I'll give you a character that's not as good as my Peach but she's a better character overall so you'll feel better when you win."

Hot_ArmS: Because nobody is as smart as UmbreonMow.

 

[Kail]

Jman does? Although at certain percents he'll up smash because he can usually get another hit or two in because of platforms. I think if your smash DI is insane you could actually get out of it, but the chances of you playing someone like that are slim.

 

[rokimomi]

Fo-realz, will do next time

Shielding is pretty awful if you don't do things out of it and get grabbed a lot.
Stop getting grabbed by either being faster and neutral airing out of shield or spacing yourself better so you don't have to.

Nah, its not me shielding and getting grabbed its me dairing too close or not behind them and getting grabbed. I'm getting down shine OOS, I think that should suffice most OOS options.

I most likely am just missing my L's from shield hitlag or something (effing cpu's never shield so I don't get that practice in)

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Okay well then I'll take the Peach practice =D

 

[Kail]

That is what is happening. If you want to fix that. Turn on a lvl 1 computer and up his handicap and just practice hitting him over and over.

 

[Zankoku]

rokimomi: I might be remembering this wrong but putting a LV1 Bowser on Handicap 9 and yourself at Handicap 1 lets you practice SHFFL dair shine. EDIT: What Kail said.

 

[Kail]

I covered that one minute before you. Get on my level bro.

Edit: Don't ban me please.

 

[rokimomi]

Haha, that works much better than my "hold the shield button on my other controller with my toe while I try to shield pressure like in the most uncomfortable position ever."

 

[Juggleguy]

roki, you should try some empty hop grabs if people like shielding against you. Or just don't get shield grabbed.

 

[Moooose]

honestly you really just need to ****

 

[rokimomi]

Lulz, I've yet to order my **** button, hopefully I'll get one before salt.

 

[SCOTU]

shffl->shine->JC grab. Too sexy for anyone to ever do.