Event The Big House 9 - Discussion Topic

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The Big House 9 will be held from the 4th to 6th October 2019 in Detroit, MI.
It is treated as an S-tier tournament with over total 2000 entrants and 1016 will attend in Ultimate Singles.

The standing are out now and can be looked up via thid link:
https://smash.gg/tournament/the-big-house-9/events/ultimate-singles/standings

The standings are the following:
1. Samsora :ultpeach:
2. Marss :ultzss:(:ultike::ultfalcon:)
3. Nairo :ultpalutena:(:ultzss::ultrobinf:)
4. Tweek :ultpokemontrainerf::ultbanjokazooie:
5. Light :ultfox:
6. ESAM :ultpikachu:
7. Dabuz :ultolimar::ultrosalina:(:ultpalutena:)
8. Shuton :ultolimar:(:ultrichter:)
9. Maister :ultgnw:
10. Dark Wizzy :ultmario:
11. Elegant :ultluigi:
12. VoiD :ultpichu::ultsheik:(:ultjoker:)
13. zackray :ultrob::ultwolf:
14. Stroder :ultroy::ultgreninja::substitute:
15. WaDi :ultrob:(:ultmewtwo:)
16. Salem :ultsnake::ulthero:
17. Abadango :ultpalutena::ultwario::ultinkling::ultmetaknight:
18. BestNess :ultness::ultpalutena:
19. kept :ultvillager::ultisabelle:
20. Cosmos :ultinkling:
21. Pandarian :ultpokemontrainerf::ulttoonlink:
22. ScAtt :ultmegaman::ultsnake:
23. Joker :ultsamus:
24. MVD :ultsnake:
25. Meme :ultyoshi:
26. Prodigy :ultmario:
27. Salt One :ultroy:
28. Puppeh :ultpokemontrainerf:
29. MuteAce :ultpeach:
30. Goblin :ultroy::ulttoonlink:
31. Jakal :ultwolf:
32. Mr. E :ultlucina:
33. Larry Lurr :ultwolf::ultfalco:
34. Blacktwins13 :ultpichu:
35. NickC :ultfalcon:
36. Suarez :ultyoshi:
37. Wishes :ultjoker:(:ultpokemontrainerf:)
38. Jw :ultgreninja:
39. NAKAT :ultpichu:
40. Plup :ultridley::ultmegaman:
41. Ismon :ultwario::ultfalco:
42. Sonido :ultsonic:
43. 8BitMan :ultrob:(:ultdiddy:)
44. RFang :ultpichu:
45. Fatality :ultfalcon:
46. Zinoto :ultpeach:
47. Mystearica :ultzelda::ultpalutena:(:ultbayonetta1:)
48. Ryuga :ultike::ulthero:
49. Ned :ultpokemontrainerf:
50. Venia :ultgreninja:
51. Toast :ultyounglink:
52. MastaMario :ultmario:
53. Skilly :ultpalutena:
54. MattyG:ultwolf:
55. Morpheus :ultmegaman:
56. Cyro :ultroy:
57. ATATA :ultness:
58. Daybreak :ultwolf:
59. Armada :ultinkling:
60. Ozone :ultduckhunt:
61. king_chris :ultzss:
62. dyr :ultdiddy::ultbanjokazooie:
63. Seagull Joe :ultpalutena:(:ultwolf::ultpikachu:)
64. Zenyou :ultmario:
65. Jayy :ultpokemontrainerf::ultmetaknight:
66. DarkShad :ultshulk::ultken:
67. Charliedaking :ultwolf:
68. Gomakenpi :ultolimar::ulthero:
69. Wizzrobe :ultwolf:
70. ChillyChilli :ultmario:(?)
71. Epic_Gabriel :ultrob:
72. Shadow_PR :ultbayonetta1:
73. tamim :ultbayonetta1:
74. BooBear :ultrob:
75. colinies :ultyounglink:
76. Trela :ultridley::ulthero:
77. Midnight :ultpalutena:
78. Welfare Pickles :ultsnake:
79. Ksev :ultsnake:
80. SuperGirlKels :ultsonic::ultkirby:
81. Comet :ultfox:
82. ChocoTaco :ultlucas:
83. Advo :ultsamus::ultdarksamus:
84. Skorpio :ultrobinf:
85. Grayson :ultrob:
86. AndrewT :ultness:
87. Geist :ultbayonetta1:
88. Xzax :ultinklingboy:
89. Radda :ultgnw:?
90. Dath :ultrobinf:
91. SaSSy :ultrob:
92. Ross :ultbanjokazooie::ultjoker::ultlink:(:ultyounglink::ulttoonlink:?)
93. AzureJose :ultwolf:
94. iModerz :ultwolf:
95. AvoiD :ultsnake::ultinkling:
96. Roxas :ultjoker:
97. Cookietic :ultike:
98. Panda Bair :ultvillager:
99. Whispy :ultisabelle:
100. Z (from Montreal) :ultpalutena::ultdiddy::ultpikachu:


(Please correct when a certain characater doesn't belong to a certain player anymore.)
 
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I think SuperGirlsKels still plays Kirby as a strong secondary. I wouldn’t be surprised if she used him in pools.

Z could bust out the Pika...

I’m not sure if Marss uses either Ike or Falcon anymore.

Lurr does not play fox anymore
 
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I think SuperGirlsKels still plays Kirby as a strong secondary. I wouldn’t be surprised if she used him in pools.

Z could bust out the Pika...

I’m not sure if Marss uses either Ike or Falcon anymore.

Lurr does not play fox anymore
It's still one option.
Characters in brackets are highly unlikely, that's what they should express.
Like, 8bitman has a Diddy but the likelihood he goes Diddy in Phase 2 and so on is really low.
 

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Are we calling wadis Wii fit dead? I think smash con in July was last time he used her.
 
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Upsets time:

Ryuga :ulthero: 0-2 Groop :ultmegaman: in Pools, now on the Loser's Side of Phase 2. From the sounds of it, he'll most likely be using :ultike: for the rest of the tournament.
 
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Other upsets including Top 100 seeds:

Xzax :ultinklingboy:0-2 GoMan:ultchrom:

Not much is going on in the first played pools, but Phase 2 will be a lot of fun.
 
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A couple more:
Ozone :ultduckhunt: (60th seed) 1-2s Theedium :ultfalco:
Zer0mar :ultyoshi: 2-1s Radda :ultgnw: (89th seed)

Aside from the major upset from Ryuga, things seem to be moving as expected for the most part.
 

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Whitefang:ultridley: 2-0 Panda Bair:ultvillager:
BRAND:ulthero: 2-0 tamim:ultbayonetta: (tamim then DQ'ed out of singles)
CPU:ultwiifittrainer: 2-0 Sonido:ultsonic:
 
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what stream is bug house on?
btssmash2 is currently streaming Ultimate Doubles Top 8 and will probably stream Singles afterward. If not then the other btssmash streams may have it.
 
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So, H pools (where BestNess is for example) aren't streamed at all?

Some other things to point out:


Wizzrobe :ultwolf: , AzureJose :ultwolf:and Skorpio :ultrobinf: DQed. Not sure why, though.

Grayson :ultrob: 1-2 TLOrEo:ultjoker:
 
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DarkWizzy dqed and is now in losers.
GoMan :ultchrom:proceeds further in Winner Bracket playing Armada :ultinkling: next.

Also Rickles :ultganondorf: 2-0 Joker :ultsamus:
 
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BooBear :ultrob: 2-1s Cyro :ultroy:
Keydrain :ultrobinf: 2-1s Ryuga :ultike:, eliminating him at an abrupt 193rd place.
C2 :ultpalutena: 2-1s Stroder :ultroy::ultmario::ultluigi:, also eliminating him at a surprising 129th place.

I think DW might've disqualified himself from the tournament altogether, he said on his Twitter that he was suffering from some stomach pains.
 
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In the UFA 2019 side of things, crazy stuff is occurring there as well.

For example: MkLeo is pretty much sweeping through his bracket with :ultmarth:, and a :ultlink: named VinS brought Mr.R:ultchrom: to game 5 last hit.

:ultlucas: ain't the only oddball in top 64 Winner's, it seems :0

CPU :ultwiifittrainer: 2-0s Rickles :ultganondorf: to get into Top 64 Winner's.
I think there would be another oddball character in top 64 either way. :ultganondorf: is probably more oddball to get top 64 winner's than :ultwiifittrainer:.

Edit: DoctorKayh 2-0 Rickles:ultganondorf: to eliminate him at 65th place.
 
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Rickles also lost 0-2 to CPU a wft. CPU and armada will face off in winners top 64

Edit: just realized I got beaten to it.
 
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I could see this being plausible even before finding out that Ismon has played against MVD before and with Falco. It was a while back, but I remember Ismon having fought a Snake in grand finals. It was against Ultimate Razer's Snake around six months ago and for both winners and grand finals.

Ismon's Falco vs. Ultimate Razer's Snake (winners finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwDZiwhZa7U.

Ismon's Falco vs. Ultimate Razer's Snake (grand finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=732g577whSw.

Turns out there's also footage of him fighting another Snake, AvoiD, in grand finals of SFC 189: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSWPgGqkXHI.

Are they to or near the caliber of MVD's Snake? Perhaps not, but Ismon does have experience fighting Snakes at a relatively high level and has fought MVD's Snake before where he lost 0-2 at USW 28 during winners semi-finals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVxrW3fux2o.

Well, whatever he took from losing to MVD, Ismon returned the favor by apparently going 2-0 against MVD.
 
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NickC:ultfalcon: 2-1 Goblin:ultroy:

Goblin missed a tech at 40% from Falcon's up B and ended up dying at the last stock. Tragic way to go out.
NickC's reverse 3 stock at game 2 was pretty hype though.
 
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Elegant :ultluigi: 2-0s Komota :ultkirby: to get into Top 64 on the Loser's Side, eliminating Komota at 65th place.

Good to see Komota managed to outplace his seeding; it's a shame he had an unfortunate run-in with Elegant early on, but he had a decent run overall, even taking out Jumpsteady :ultpalutena::ultzss: along the way.

EDIT: DarkShad :ultken: 2-0s LarryLurr :ultwolf: to get into Top 64 on the Loser's Side.
 
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MuteAce:ultpeach: 0-2 Suarez:ultyoshi:
king_chris:ultzss: 2-0 MuteAce:ultpeach: (eliminated at 65th place)
Plup:ultmegaman: 2-1 Meme:ultyoshi:
 
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In an unexpected turn, Wishes :ulttoonlink: 2-1s Puppeh :ultpokemontrainerf: to get into Top 64 Winner's.

It's kind of funny how what started out as a meme ("Toon Link is top tier") is actually influencing people to start using Toon Link in tournaments as big as these.

EDIT: Cosmos :ultinkling: 2-1s Fatality :ultfalcon:

The hell was that game 2? Cosmos had such a strong lead, then it just vaporized in the span of half a minute lol.
 
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Whispy:ultisabelle::ultjigglypuff: 2-0 Mr E:ultlucina: (strangest character selection lol)
Syco:ultolimar: 2-0 Shadow_PR:ultbayonetta1: (eliminating him at 97th)
Stas:ultwiifittrainer: 2-0 Geist:ultbayonetta: (eliminating him at 97th)
 
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It speaks a lot to how atrocious the Inkling MU is for Falcon when the only reason this wasn't a 2-0 wash is because Cosmos got too greedy several stocks. And also SD'd.
 
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I remember Fatality mentioning how much the match-up was terrible for Captain Falcon (and him in particular).

From what I've seen so far, NickC has actually been the stronger :ultfalcon: performer between the two this season.

ChillyChilli :ultmario: 2-0s Meme :ultyoshi: to eliminate him at 65th place.
 
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