The Bandicoot Returns - The Crash for Smash Thread

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As of now, I wouldn't mind seeing Crash as an Assist Trophy. Obviously, he would use his signature spin attack, and maybe footstool players. I think he at least deserves that much, since he was quite popular back in the day, and that his games are being brought to the Switch.
 

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As of now, I wouldn't mind seeing Crash as an Assist Trophy. Obviously, he would use his signature spin attack, and maybe footstool players. I think he at least deserves that much, since he was quite popular back in the day, and that his games are being brought to the Switch.
That would be pretty disapointing
 

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As of now, I wouldn't mind seeing Crash as an Assist Trophy. Obviously, he would use his signature spin attack, and maybe footstool players. I think he at least deserves that much, since he was quite popular back in the day, and that his games are being brought to the Switch.
Bomberman's one thing (seeing as Konami has a character in the game - it's still annoying, but it's not as bad as it could be), but it would be even worse to reach out to Activision in order to get permission to use Crash in Smash, give him animations and an in-game model... and make him an assist trophy.
 
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Bomberman's one thing (seeing as Konami has a character in the game - it's still annoying, but it's not as bad as it could be), but it would be even worse to reach out to Activision in order to get permission to use Crash in Smash, give him animations and an in-game model... and make him an assist trophy.
Where did this one-fighter-per-3rd-party-company myth come from? Capcom owns both Mega Man & Ryu. One-fighter-per-3rd-party-franchise would be more accurate. Bomberman should've got in.
 
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Where did this one-fighter-per-3rd-party-company myth come from? Capcom owns both Mega Man & Ryu. One-fighter-per-3rd-party-franchise would be more accurate. Bomberman should've got in.
I think he was referring to the fact that Nintendo already reached out to Konami for a character at least, so Bomberman wasn't much extra effort for the purpose of making an AT, whereas Crash being a frontrunner from Activision becoming a AT would prettymuch mean reaching out to Activision just for an AT.
 

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I think he was referring to the fact that Nintendo already reached out to Konami for a character at least, so Bomberman wasn't much extra effort for the purpose of making an AT, whereas Crash being a frontrunner from Activision becoming a AT would prettymuch mean reaching out to Activision just for an AT.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for.

Also, quick question for everyone - I've never played the original Crash trilogy, but I'm getting the N. Sane Trilogy on Switch tomorrow. Would it be best for me to start with the first game, or jump into the second or third? I assume it's like Sonic, where story takes a backseat to gameplay and I can start at any of the games, and I've heard that the first game is quite tough. ("the Dark Souls of platforming" seems like an exaggeration, but precision platforming and three dimensions rarely seems to mesh well)
 
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for.

Also, quick question for everyone - I've never played the original Crash trilogy, but I'm getting the N. Sane Trilogy on Switch tomorrow. Would it be best for me to start with the first game, or jump into the second or third? I assume it's like Sonic, where story takes a backseat to gameplay and I can start at any of the games, and I've heard that the first game is quite tough. ("the Dark Souls of platforming" seems like an exaggeration, but precision platforming and three dimensions rarely seems to mesh well)
Well, story isn't really a big factor in the series, so it's not a thing that will force you to start with the first game.

However, I would start with the first game and play at least the first 6 levels (including the first boss) before moving on to other games. Those levels aren't that hard and they will give you a basic grasp of how crash plays. In crash 2 and 3, he has additional moves that aren't in 1, and i feel like it would be an easier transition if you get the basics first and them try those other moves iin the other games.
 

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Well my Switch copy should be coming tomorrow. Super excited to play this all week. Will reinvigorate my hype for Crash in smash I hope.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for.

Also, quick question for everyone - I've never played the original Crash trilogy, but I'm getting the N. Sane Trilogy on Switch tomorrow. Would it be best for me to start with the first game, or jump into the second or third? I assume it's like Sonic, where story takes a backseat to gameplay and I can start at any of the games, and I've heard that the first game is quite tough. ("the Dark Souls of platforming" seems like an exaggeration, but precision platforming and three dimensions rarely seems to mesh well)
The basic arguable structure is that the first game is the hardest of the trilogy even if you are simply aiming to complete the levels without the extra rewards you achieve for beating each level flawlessly. In regards to the plotlines, Crash 1's sequels start off with how each previous game ended (E.G: first cutscene when you start off Crash 2 shows what happened in the ending of Crash 1), it's not massively story-driven, but it could feel more satisfying to neatly plow through each title in their original order. If you're good at memorizing the plots, it shouldn't be a problem to not start off with Crash 1.

Back to the difficulty aspect, one other good reason to start off with Crash 1 is that the controls feel more ''basic''. Simple as running, jumping and spinning. In Crash 2 the bandicoot was given extra abilities such as sliding or crouching, even more abilities are earned in Crash 3. Once you've mastered the first game (it will feel much more step-by-step with how you progress, since the levels are laid out more like a map such as Donkey Kong Country or Super Mario Bros. 3) and the terrifying obstacles you come across as the difficulty increases, I believe you will enjoy the second and third games after even more for the additional benefits, and to learn how the bandicoot ''evolved'' per-say.

Enjoy the trilogy! The replay-ability lasts a good while (I'm still trying to fully complete everything since I bought the game when it launched).
 

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Played the first level of Crash briefly - one thing I learned is that the game is going to be hard to beat 100%! (I tried breaking all of the boxes in the first level, but I couldn't even pull that off due to the fixed camera making depth perception difficult)

I'll focus on beating the game, as opposed to getting 100% on it.
 

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what if they got Crash in, also got an assist trophy from Activision, and it was spyro
I would be fine with whatever as long as Crash makes it in as a playable character with or without Spyro. I love Spyro a lot and I think he deserves to be in Smash, but not before Crash. If they both make it in together as playable then ok even better! But in the end, Crash is one of the most recognizable and a very popular videogame mascots around the level of Mario, Sonic, Pacman and Megaman. Spyro is also up there, but he has always been like a Donkey Kong for Nintendo and Crash was the Mario of PlayStation.
 
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If I have to be honest, I've only played Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex. But, I'm planning on getting Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy for my PS4. I support!
 

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what if they got Crash in, also got an assist trophy from Activision, and it was spyro
Idk. Nintendo would already be going out on a limb by putting Crash in the game - a character whose popularity is far past his prime. I have difficulty imagining them throwing in Spyro too, even as an assist trophy. My gut feeling is telling me it's just not his time yet. His inclusion would be awesome, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I wouldn't even get my hopes up for Crash.
 
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Back when i was a kid (im 8 months younger than the Smash series itself), my father bought me a PS1 instead of a PS2 for some reason (maybe he just heard Playstation and forgot the 2) and he bought a bootleg disc of the Crash Bandicoot Trilogy (bootlegs were really common in my country, my father was......... protective of money to put it softly and it wasn't until 2013 that i managed to support the official releases) and that was the first exposure i had to Crash Bandicoot.

Later, my father also bought a Bootleg Disc that contained Wrath of Cortex, Twinsanity and Nitro Kart, and he later bought both the PS2 and Wii versions of Crash of the Titans that also were pirated (the first time i ever "double Dipped" on a game) and because of all this exposure, i became a Crash Fan.

Around 2010, i managed to play Brawl (again, a pirated version, and in this one i couldn't even play SSE or else a error message popped up) and i imagined Crash in Smash, and this was even BEFORE Smash 4 was announced in 2011.

That was the earliest moment in my life that i remember wishing for a newcomer, and as far as i remember it was the first time i ever did someting like that.

So there you go, Crash was the first character that i ever wanted in Smash. Needless to say, due to my desire to support the official releases since i was 13 has only grown much stronger so i HAD to get the N. Sane Trilogy, and it was the only game that REALLY made me have any interest in the PS4 at all, but since it was released on Switch i got that version.

Simon Belmont is my most wanted 3rd party (and my most wanted character in general), but after Bomberman's Assist reveal, the only other third party character that i have any interest nowadays is this little fella, since he was a childhood favorite of mine.

So you can put me in the support list.
 
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I was hoping for a Crash reveal at CEO but was unfortunate to see it not happen. Maybe something this month? What would be a good date for an announcement?
 

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I was hoping for a Crash reveal at CEO but was unfortunate to see it not happen. Maybe something this month? What would be a good date for an announcement?
I'd still say somewhere post-release as DLC. Spots are scarce, I just don't think Crash could of made it in time. Would love to be wrong, but that's how I feel anyway.
 
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I was hoping for a Crash reveal at CEO but was unfortunate to see it not happen. Maybe something this month? What would be a good date for an announcement?
Not until DLC. The project plan was completed months before N-Sane was announced, and Crash's future was still uncertain at the time in spite of the rumors.
 
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The remakes creations were known during 2015 though if I recall. Hopefully he still makes the base roster if hes chosen
 
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The remakes creations were known during 2015 though if I recall. Hopefully he still makes the base roster if hes chosen
It was just rumors back at the very tail-end of 2015. Earlier that year, it was just Naughty Dog saying they'd like to see it happen but they didn't think it was viable.
 

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Ok guys, take a look at this: https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/1013925354682101760?s=19

This really worries me about Crash's chances, because I'm not really sure if he did well on the ballot at the time because he was dead.
It will depend on the way Sakurai decided to add the characters: if he decided to add all of the most popular ones from the ballot on the base roster and add DLC later based on another ballot or some other way them Crash might have a chance as DLC, but, if he planned to eventually add those characters while putting some of them on the base roster and others as DLC them i fear for Crash chances.
 
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what if they got Crash in, also got an assist trophy from Activision, and it was spyro
That would be mighty fine for me. Historically, Spyro never did quite as well as Crash in Japan (due to somehow botching at least one of the first few Spyro games in the transition), so having him in Smash as an AT would be the first step to reinvigorating interest in him over there.
 

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Ok guys, take a look at this: https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/1013925354682101760?s=19

This really worries me about Crash's chances, because I'm not really sure if he did well on the ballot at the time because he was dead.
It will depend on the way Sakurai decided to add the characters: if he decided to add all of the most popular ones from the ballot on the base roster and add DLC later based on another ballot or some other way them Crash might have a chance as DLC, but, if he planned to eventually add those characters while putting some of them on the base roster and others as DLC them i fear for Crash chances.
Should've not voted for Karate Joe... (Not that I don't still want a Rhythm Heaven rep in!)

Not that they've legally obligated to do another ballot for Smash Ultimate but if this is true, it's kind of unfair when the ballot wasn't specifically marketed as being not for Smash 4. Surely they wouldn't completely ignore character choices now relevant that they didn't forsee in 2015 or whenever, at least for stuff Nintendo might be marketing only now (like a Xenoblade 2 character or something). At least for DLC, surely they wouldn't deny taking a more recent look at character potential, with stuff like Crash hopefully getting their attention and making them consider an inclusion?
 
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Should've not voted for Karate Joe... (Not that I don't still want a Rhythm Heaven rep in!)

Not that they've legally obligated to do another ballot for Smash Ultimate but if this is true, it's kind of unfair when the ballot wasn't specifically marketed as being not for Smash 4. Surely they wouldn't completely ignore character choices now relevant that they didn't forsee in 2015 or whenever, at least for stuff Nintendo might be marketing only now (like a Xenoblade 2 character or something). At least for DLC, surely they wouldn't deny taking a more recent look at character potential, with stuff like Crash hopefully getting their attention and making them consider an inclusion?
If it helps, the Remastered Trilogy did get released in Japan. And yes, it has a cutified Crash.
 
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Ok guys, take a look at this: https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/1013925354682101760?s=19

This really worries me about Crash's chances, because I'm not really sure if he did well on the ballot at the time because he was dead.
It will depend on the way Sakurai decided to add the characters: if he decided to add all of the most popular ones from the ballot on the base roster and add DLC later based on another ballot or some other way them Crash might have a chance as DLC, but, if he planned to eventually add those characters while putting some of them on the base roster and others as DLC them i fear for Crash chances.
Again too late for base but DLC is still no different because they will take for account the games that didn't exist during the ballot times

Besides the ballot choices are probably for the base and characters like spring man, Rex and pyra, should be dlc and crash has a really decent chance for it since Mario vs sonic vs crash Is another dream battle to happen
 

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Assuming DLC will happen which, considering they're likely going to support the game at least in version updates, DLC for other recent games and it's guaranteed success in bringing in more Smash fighters, I'm hopefully assuming right. I just hope at SOME point poor SAKURAI gets a vacation :p

Strangely the Switch N. Same port isn't out in Japan alongside the US/EU versions, but they gotta have seen in advertised in the same direct Smash U was announced, right?
 

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Assuming DLC will happen which, considering they're likely going to support the game at least in version updates, DLC for other recent games and it's guaranteed success in bringing in more Smash fighters, I'm hopefully assuming right. I just hope at SOME point poor SAKURAI gets a vacation :p

Strangely the Switch N. Same port isn't out in Japan alongside the US/EU versions, but they gotta have seen in advertised in the same direct Smash U was announced, right?
The Japanese version of the Switch port was indeed shown at the japanese nintendo direct right before the splatoon 2 expansion
 

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Wishful thinking but would there be a reason they'd hold off the Japan Switch release of Crash N. Sane Trilogy...
 

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Wishful thinking but would there be a reason they'd hold off the Japan Switch release of Crash N. Sane Trilogy...
Or the Swich version of the Spyro reignited trilogy.

Some people have thought about the possibility of the Switch version of the spyro trilogy being revealed at the same day crash and spyro would be revealed in smash and there were even fake leaks, but there's no proof of it. But who knows? A man can dream.
 
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Opossum Opossum , I took the liberty of creating an updated support list for our favourite Bandicoot.
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  6. TCT~Phantom
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  10. Freduardo
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  13. BirthNote
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  34. ~ Valkyrie ~
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  40. Rosalina suporter
  41. Tonydrake
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  43. Sir Ridley XII
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You were actually missing 90 people from the list. :laugh:
 

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Opossum Opossum , I took the liberty of creating an updated support list for our favourite Bandicoot.
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  2. Planet Zeb(es)~
  3. Schnee117
  4. Yomi's Biggest Fan
  5. Oasis Dealer
  6. TCT~Phantom
  7. Xeno VII
  8. Guybrush20X6
  9. Mario & Sonic Guy
  10. Freduardo
  11. MatgSy
  12. ryuu seika
  13. BirthNote
  14. Xeno610
  15. Nu~
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  17. smashkirby
  18. PsychoJosh
  19. Ben Holt
  20. Kirbeh
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  22. Mrrgle
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  25. Sir Gengar de Ectoplasma
  26. AustarusIV
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  28. Crap-Zapper
  29. CrusherMania1592
  30. Lukingodex
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  32. KeybladeSmasher
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  35. Megadoomer
  36. Darkraid
  37. ZealousGamer
  38. Altais
  39. pupNapoleon
  40. Rosalina suporter
  41. Tonydrake
  42. Geno Boost
  43. Sir Ridley XII
  44. Z25
  45. Hypercat-Z
  46. skylanders fan
  47. WaddleKing
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  50. Sponge
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You were actually missing 90 people from the list. :laugh:
I kind of gave up on the list when it blew up with supporters during a power outage, causing me to miss people. :p Thanks!
 

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So, after 10 days of owning the nintendo switch version of the n. sane trilogy I finally managed to get everything in the game including every platinum relic. Stormy Ascent took me the entire afternoon to get the relic holy ****
 
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Do you all think Crash has a strong enough "rivalry" or notable bond to Mario and maybe Sonic to be part of his consideration? Obviously not as strong or as long lasted as Sonic vs Mario, but this was a guy, if only for a generation, straight up taunting Nintendo in advertisements that weren't Sega's. Representing the big boy Sony that walked onto the scene (like how Banjo Kazooie could represent their time with Nintendo in the 90's?). And that rivalry could have really gone three ways if it wasn't for Sonic Xtreme's cancellation...

Were you siding with Nintendo and Mario, Sega and Sonic, or Sony and Crash?

And even taking Cloud's appearance as just representing Final Fantasy, we're certainly not afraid to have in Sony-like characters like him and Snake, maybe even Heihachi could get in (leak stuff notwithstanding). Just imagine that big "finger up" at Sony and their All-Stars game. Crash may not be as gaming culture crucial an icon as someone like Ryu or Pacman, but neither was Bayo and she may NOT have gotten in because of the ballot as we now know. And "Nintendo relevance" with Pacman, Ryu and (would you say Final Fantasy?) may not seem too significant beyond "having games released for those as well as other systems", right?
 
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Do you all think Crash has a strong enough "rivalry" or notable bond to Mario and maybe Sonic to be part of his consideration? Obviously not as strong or as long lasted as Sonic vs Mario, but this was a guy, if only for a generation, straight up taunting Nintendo in advertisements that weren't Sega's. Representing the big boy Sony that walked onto the scene (like how Banjo Kazooie could represent their time with Nintendo in the 90's?). And that rivalry could have really gone three ways if it wasn't for Sonic Xtreme's cancellation...

Were you siding with Nintendo and Mario, Sega and Sonic, or Sony and Crash?

And even taking Cloud's appearance as just representing Final Fantasy, we're certainly not afraid to have in Sony-like characters like him and Snake, maybe even Heihachi could get in (leak stuff notwithstanding). Just imagine that big "finger up" at Sony and their All-Stars game. Crash may not be as gaming culture crucial an icon as someone like Ryu or Pacman, but neither was Bayo and she may NOT have gotten in because of the ballot as we now know. And "Nintendo relevance" with Pacman, Ryu and (would you say Final Fantasy?) may not seem too significant beyond "having games released for those as well as other systems", right?
Absolutely. While I think his N-Sane revival will be the deciding factor to putting him over the top to DLC, he wouldn't just be chosen for that alone. He's one of the Playstation's biggest icons with a fair amount of Nintendo history himself. If it weren't for that legacy that's comparable to Sonic, we wouldn't even be discussing him right now. Nintendo vs Sony vs SEGA was short-lived but it was still a memorable time in the gaming industry as everyone was comparing each side's specs and graphics. It was basically a continuation of the "blast-processing" 16-bit rivalry.
 
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