Event Super Smash Con 2019 Discussion Thread

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Official Top 100 seedings for Super Smash Con 2019 are here!

EDIT: The seedings have been changed to accommodate the absence of players Rivers, ProtoBanham, NAKAT, and Epic_Gabriel, so most players have gone up by either 1, 2, 3, or 4 spots, with a few exceptions (Maister going up 9 spots, Mr E going down 4 spots); Raito is still criminally under seeded though. :\

1. MKLeo :ultjoker:
2. Marss :ultzss:
3. Tweek :ultpokemontrainer: (Wait wat)
4. Samsora :ultpeach:
5. Dabuz :ultolimar:(:ultrosalina:)
6. Shuton :ultolimar:
7. Nairo :ultpalutena::ultzss:
8. zackray :ultwolf:
9. Cosmos :ultinkling:
10. VoiD :ultwolf::ultpikachu:
11. Light :ultfox:
12. ESAM :ultpikachu:
13. Salem :ultsnake:(:ultshulk::ulthero:?)
14. Wishes :ultjoker:(:ultpokemontrainerf:)
15. MVD :ultsnake:
16. WaDi :ultrob:
17. Dark Wizzy :ultmario:
18. Raito :ultduckhunt:
19. Maister :ultgnw:
20. Sinji :ultpacman:
21. Nietono :ultwario:
22. MuteAce :ultpeach:
23. Puppeh :ultpokemontrainer:
24. Elegant :ultluigi:
25. Mr E :ultlucina:
26. ScAtt :ultmegaman:(:ultsnake:)
27. Mr. R :ultchrom:(:ultsnake:)
28. Stroder :ultgreninja:(:ultmario::ultjoker:)
29. Myran :ultolimar:
30. Ryuga :ultike:
31. Gen :ultpalutena:
32. yeti :ultmegaman:
33. Goblin :ultroy:
34. Sonido :ultsonic:
35. Wrath :ultsonic::ultjoker:
36. Fatality :ultfalcon:(:ultchrom:)
37. ANTi :ultmario:
38. Suarez :ultyoshi:
39. Zinoto :ultpeach:
40. Captain L :ultpikachu:(:ultpichu::ultkirby:)
41. Pandarian :ultpokemontrainer: (:ulthero:)
42. ZD :ultfox::ultwolf:
43. 8BitMan :ultrob:
44. RFang :ultpichu:(DQ)
45. Salt One :ultcloud:
46. LingLing :ultpeach:
47. Frozen :ultpalutena:
48. Leffen :ultpokemontrainer:(:ultroy:)
49. BestNess :ultness:(:ultpalutena:)
50. Secret (SDX) :ultmewtwo::ultjoker:
51. ven :ultzelda:
52. Gomakenpi :ultolimar:
53. Lui$ :ultfox:(:ultdoc:)
54. Juice :ultzss::ultfalco:
55. Sonix :ultsonic:
56. Pelca :ultsnake:
57. Raffi-X :ultrob:
58. Phantom :ultpalutena:
59. Larry Lurr :ultwolf::ultfalco:
60. Ned :ultpokemontrainerf:(:ultchrom:)
61. Laid :ultlucina:
62. Jw :ultgreninja:
63. Riddles :ultrichter:
64. Sandstorm :ultryu:
65. Javi :ultlucina:(:ultwolf:)
66. Etsuji :ultlucina:
67. Jakal :ultwolf:
68. Blacktwins13 :ultpichu:
69. Blank :ultchrom:
70. Daybreak :ultwolf:
71. BlazingPasta :ultpeach:
72. DM :ultpikachu:
73. Atelier :ultwolf:
74. Seth :ultyoshi:
75. kept :ultvillager:(:ultisabelle:)
76. Suinoko :ultyounglink:
77. Logix :ultike:
78. Megafox :ultfox:
79. Venia :ultgreninja:
80. MattyG :ultchrom:(:ultwolf:)
81. Donqavius :ultgreninja:(:ultmetaknight:)
82. colonies :ultyounglink:
83. NickC :ultfalcon:
84. Mew2King :ultlucina::ultbowser: (:ultjoker:)
85. cookieslayer :ultyounglink:
86. Plup :ultmegaman:
87. uncivil ninja :ultshulk:
88. Lima :ultbayonetta:
89. Dexter :ultlucina::ultwolf:
90. Cyro :ultroy:(:ultmetaknight:)
91. Seagull Joe :ultpalutena: (:ultwolf::ultyounglink:)
92. Stocktaker69 :ultvillager: (:ultwolf:)
93. ATATA :ultness:
94. Wizzrobe :ultwolf: (DQ)
95. Tyroy :ultpichu:
96. false :ultwolf:
97. iStudying :ultgreninja:
98. Geist :ultbayonetta:
99. Kuma :ultroy:
100. Kofi :ultfalco: (:ultgnw:)

Notable players outside of top 100:

102. Benny&TheJets :ultrob:
106. tamim :ultbayonetta:
109. Konga :ultdk:
112. Snoop :ultyoshi:
124. Atomsk :ultkingdedede:
 
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Apparently, Salem and Leffen are seeded again in a way that they could meet ion brackets again.
Very funny seeders. But Leffen first has to get his Visa approved :p.

On a side note, looks like Mystearica and Bonren (probably 2nd and 3rd best Zelda player) are in the same pool. Maybe we get a ditto :^).

Bracket details aren't out yet as far as I can see, though.
 
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I'm hoping to see a Salem vs. Leffen match here; I think a lot of people were looking forward to that at EVO, and to be honest, I don't blame them.

Also, from the sounds of it ProtoBanham won't be attending Super Smash Con, or any Smash tournaments for a while; it seems that he's dealing with some health issues at the moment.
 
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Not quite the first, there were a few notable off-stream upsets including

Catalyst :ultshulk: (334th Seed) 2 - 1 Megafox :ultfox: (78th Seed)
Protege :ultpalutena: (Unseeded) 2 - ? Blank :ultjoker: (69th Seed)
UR2Slow :ultsonic: (Unseeded) 2 - 1 Mystearica :ultzelda: (137th Seed)
Myst plays more Palu and Peach lately and there's no Tweet from him about that.
 
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Unfortunately, only a few of the battles were shown on the VGBootCamp stream; the rest were for the other games being hosted (Brawl, Melee, 4).

Also, pretty big upset, Jakal (67th seed):ultwolf: got 1-2'd by Kicker :ultdarksamus:, then got 1-2'd by BobbyWasabi :ultvillager: right after, eliminating him at 513th place.

Atomsk (124th seed) :ultkingdedede:, is also out at 513th place after losing both to Spoof :ultlucas::ultcloud: and BABOONGA :ultincineroar:.

EDIT: RFang :ultpichu: disqualified himself from pools for a lack of sleep; given that NAKAT isn't here either, that's gotta suck for Pichu lol.
 
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Unfortunately, only a few of the battles were shown on the VGBootCamp stream; the rest were for the other games being hosted (Brawl, Melee, 4).

Also, pretty big upset, Jakal (67th seed):ultwolf: got 1-2'd by Kicker :ultdarksamus:, then got 1-2'd by BobbyWasabi :ultvillager: right after, eliminating him at 513th place.

Atomsk (124th seed) :ultkingdedede:, is also out at 513th place after losing to Spoof and BABOONGA :ultincineroar:.
That's the thing about upsets.
Jakal and BW is a match you expect in phase 2.
That tournament is funny so far :3.

Isn't Spoof a :ultcloud: btw.?



Other upsets:
cookieslayer :ultyounglink: 1-2 NameLess ?
 
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Things are going crazy already XD I think Spoof is a :ultcloud:? I think he also uses :ultlucas:, if I recall correctly.
 
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Why is Yoshi so damn heavy? lol

For real, though, iStudying had such a hard time landing the finishing blow against burntsocks; it doesn't help that Yoshi can pretty much just dance around all of Greninja's KO confirms; in that regard, I can see why he had to start fishing for FAir as his primary kill option.
 
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More Round 1 upsets on winners side:

Blacktwins13:ultpichu: 0-2 Tony Pajamas :ultness:
Colinies :ultyounglink: 0-2 Juanpi :ultpalutena:
DKwill :ultdk:1-2 Hero ? (can't even remotely confirm who he plays with all these Hero videos around)
StockTaker69 :ultwolf: 1-2 GoMan :ultroy:/:ultchrom:
Atelier :ultwolf:1-2 Radda :ultgnw:
Kofi :ultfalco::ultgnw: 0-2 Grand Pastor J ?
Daybreak :ultwolf: losing to Brownie :ultshulk: (exact set count not available on smash.gg)
LeeT :ultbrawler: 0-2 Aikota :ultzelda::ultness:

If someone knows better about the characters, feel free to correct. That's just what I found about the players and what they used in past tournaments.
Anyway, looks like some Wolf players really struggle in this tournament but they're all now in losers side, making this a very scary place.
 
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I kinda had a feeling about SDX being a Secret, though Pandarian denied it on his Twitter; he hasn't really mentioned his thoughts about Mewtwo's buffs since he was recovering from a cold, but assuming he's a fan of them, he'll probably be using it and Joker both.

Oh yeah, and a few more upsets:

Juice :ultzss: 1-2 Dr. Copter :ultgreninja:.

Craftis :ultsonic: 0-2 Otter :ultrichter:
 
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Cosmos :ultinkling: made it out of Round 1 pools going 2 - 1 against Ninja :ultmario:, though according to his Twitter he's feeling sick this weekend and may end up DQing himself if he doesn't improve before Top 128. Really unfortunate situation given that he was planning for this to be his last tourney in a while.
 
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The upsets continue:

Zinoto :ultpeach:(:ultpalutena:?) 0-2 Vince :ultroy:
Sonido :ultsonic: 1-2 PINK :ultpichu: (sounds like he dropped her right before SSC, so not sure)
Minix :ultpichu:(:ultrob:?) 0-2 Grayson :ultrob:


Loser's side getting more and more scary.
 
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The upsets continue:

Zinoto :ultpeach:(:ultpalutena:?) 0-2 Vince :ultroy:
Sonido :ultsonic: 1-2 PINK :ultpichu: (sounds like he dropped her right before SSC, so not sure)
Minix :ultpichu:(:ultrob:?) 0-2 Grayson :ultrob:


Loser's side getting more and more scary.
Sonido did confirm on his Twitter that PINK was using :ultpichu:.

He also tried counterpicking against PINK with :ultsnake:, but with disastrous results unfortunately.
 
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Seagull Joe :ultwolf: 2-0 Stroder :ultgreninja:


Greninja can just never catch a break can he?

Update. No..Greninja really cannot.
Ned:ultpokemontrainerf:2-1 Jw :ultgreninja:
 
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And the last(?) phase 1 upsets:

Comet :ultfox: 1-2 Nabster :ultrosalina:
Kuma :ultjoker: (actually a :ultroy: main but didn't use him according to his Twitter) 1-2 Duwang :ultmario:
Dingus Joe :ultgnw: 1-2 FROOT :ultpalutena:
DarkShad :ultshulk: 1-2 TR Stretch :ultlucina: and Denti :ultpokemontrainerf: 1-2 TR Stretch :ultlucina: (Probably Lucina. Judging from Vods, they apparently use more chars, though)

Secret/SDX ? 1-2 Nhan ?
JeBB :ultpalutena: (:ultzss:?) 1-2 Makibaz :ultpalutena:



Way too many situations where the 1st seed of a pool loses. Kinda interesting seeing how tiny the skill gap between the players and characters is.


Zackray is still in Winner's side. Larry got trolled.
 
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Commentators talk on and on about how badly :ultzss: does vs:ultsquirtle: before Marss vs Ned match.

Marss gets most of his kills vs Squirtle all around 70% or lower lol
 
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Ned :ultpokemontrainer: 2-0s Stroder :ultgreninja: in the Loser's Bracket, eliminating him at 65th place.

At least Jw's still in to keep up the Greninja rep.
 
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Cosmos hopping out.
 

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Generally good sportsmanship on that set. It was pretty obvious Salem didn't care much about actually winning the set itself as much as he just wanted to prove a point; "I can beat you with both Snake and Hero". Did the first, almost did the second. I can respect the attempt, it's clear Leffen did too since he almost lost.
 
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