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Why are you always like this? ****ting on every fanbase.
Don't you get that there are individuals who are accountable for their own actions?
You just blame the whole game, instead of the player. I don't get this kind of attitude, it's kinda like bullying, really.
She wasn't? She was defending a guy?

Did you misquote her or?

If you ask me Arcadenik Arcadenik was the one "bullying." Let the Waluigi **** go already.

No fanbase is better than any other fanbase. Stop looking for chances to get petty jabs at fanbases you aren't a part of. Its perfectly reasonable to want a character you like to be included in something and its perfectly reasonable to be critical of a company for ignoring its characters.
 
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Come to think of it, some old codecs will need to be redone because they mention Brawl by name.

(Jigglypuff Codec) "Takes all kinds, Snake. Especially here in Brawl."
(Sonic Codec) "But everyone loves Sonic. He's a big star. Do you have any idea how excited people are that he's here in Brawl?"
Link's also needs an update. His codec mentions attacks that he no longer uses, such as the clawshot.
 

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The fact that LUCAS of all characters, from the EARTHBOUND series, would get TWO Amiibos, is hard to believe

And now that I think about it shouldn't the game be called Earthbound 3D instead of Mother 3D?
Well, at first you could excuse this by saying that he knows how is gonna be called in Japan and not the name in the rest of the world.
But yeah, I doubt it, I see it more probably an earthbound trilogy collection than a Mother 3D remake.
 

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I swear, the 2018 Waluigi fanbase is starting to make the 2014 Ridley fanbase look tame by comparison.

Waluigi probably won't be playable. Let's not rub salt in the wound by telling supporters to give up, and let's not get extremely defensive whenever someone says something negative about Waluigi. Let it go, move on, and talk about one of the gazillion other characters out there.
 
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Honestly those New Super Mario games shouldn't have Wario OR Waluigi.

Those games should be where they do Super Mario Bros 2 style **** and just have Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Toad. But I supposed they did that with Super Mario 3D World to a degree.
These """New""" Super Mario games shouldn't exist, period.
There's nothing """new""" about them and they feel lazy as hell.
 

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No yeah the fact that the leak calls it Mother in the West when this seems to be an English direct brings a major red flag, cause both games in the series have been called "Earthbound", over here, why change that now?
After we've been calling it "Mother 3" this whole time, calling it "EarthBound 2" just seems wrong. I have no idea what they'd do if they chose to localize it, but any other name just feels strange.

It's also worth noting that even after Mother 1 became "EarthBound Beginnings," in Ultimate, Mother 3 is still Mother 3, as in the Treehouse streams, New Pork City now has the Mother 3 logo instead of the EarthBound one it had in Brawl.

Leak is totally fake though.
 
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Sonic's is great though. I love that Snake hates Sonic for no reason.
It's not for no reason; in the Japanese version, Snake is voiced by Akio Otsuka who is the son of late Chikao Otsuka who voiced Eggman from 1998 to 2015 where he sadly passed away. Eggman hates Sonic, so his son hates Sonic as well.

It doesn't translate well in English.
 

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I really don't want Mother to transition to 3D in general, something about those pixely graphics of the SNES and GBA was just perfect for the series, I don't think you can recapture the same spirit with 3D models. I must admit that the battle backgrounds would be crazy with the 3D slider on though.
 
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It's not for no reason; in the Japanese version, Snake is voiced by Akio Otsuka who is the son of late Chikao Otsuka who voiced Eggman from 1998 to 2015 where he sadly passed away. Eggman hates Sonic, so his son hates Sonic as well.

It doesn't translate well in English.
Hedgehogs can eat snakes in the wild iirc so it still works but in a different way
 
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It's not for no reason; in the Japanese version, Snake is voiced by Akio Otsuka who is the son of late Chikao Otsuka who voiced Eggman from 1998 to 2015 where he sadly passed away. Eggman hates Sonic, so his son hates Sonic as well.

It doesn't translate well in English.
woah i didnt know

litrally all the other reasons were "hedgehogs eat snakes" or "sonic 1 sold more than MG"
 

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After we've been calling it "Mother 3" this whole time, calling it "EarthBound 2" just seems wrong. I have no idea what they'd do if they chose to localize it, but any other name just feels strange.

It's also worth noting that even after Mother 1 became "EarthBound Beginnings," in Ultimate, Mother 3 is still Mother 3, as in the Treehouse streams, New Pork City now has the Mother 3 logo instead of the EarthBound one it had in Brawl.

Leak is totally fake though.
I mean we all knew Earthbound Beginnings as Mother before it got localized, it was weird when we found out the localized name but here we are.

Also what logo exactly, I'm curious.
 

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I really don't want Mother to transition to 3D in general, something about those pixely graphics of the SNES and GBA was just perfect for the series. I must admit that the battle backgrounds would be crazy with the 3D slider on though.
A lot of the series' charm comes from its pixelated sprites. Take that away and it's just not the same.

A good compromise would be keeping the characters, NPCs, and enemies in their pixelated form, but making the rest of the world 3D. Might look a little weird to some, but at least it would fully retain it's simplistic design during battles.
 

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A lot of the series' charm comes from its pixelated sprites. Take that away and it's just not the same.

A good compromise would be keeping the characters, NPCs, and enemies in their pixelated form, but making the rest of the world 3D. Might look a little weird to some, but at least it would fully retain it's simplistic design during battles.
You are right that the sprites gives the world of Mother 3 a lot of charm... but on the other side, the gba compress the music too much, so a remake with the ost remastered would be amazing.
 
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A lot of the series' charm comes from its pixelated sprites. Take that away and it's just not the same.

A good compromise would be keeping the characters, NPCs, and enemies in their pixelated form, but making the rest of the world 3D. Might look a little weird to some, but at least it would fully retain it's simplistic design during battles.
Yes, the Kunio/River City series does this exact approach and it works. Even Octopath Traveler does it.
 

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I mean we all knew Earthbound Beginnings as Mother before it got localized, it was weird when we found out the localized name but here we are.

Also what logo exactly, I'm curious.
The stage select screen logo.

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In Brawl, they used the EarthBound logo instead.
 

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This is true Simon Belmont for me and many people that grew up with the character.


I don't want the Simon that looks like a Bishonen Anti-Hero, i want a barbaric man that will stand out among the likes of Marth, Link and Cloud. The gothic design just makes Simon lose his appeal in my opinion (well already have quite enough gothic pretty boys in Casltevania like Alucard and Soma, Simon is better off as the Barbaric Vampire Hunter because it makes him stand out from other characters in his own series and in Smash)

Not to mention, This is the design Konami is using to advertise Simon in Girmoire of Souls and Super Bomberman R:



Also Sakurai has a history of preferring Classic Designs over modern ones (Mega Man and Pac-Man) or making the Classic Design the main one (FF7 Cloud is the main design and AC is the Alt) and since Castlevania had a big impact on Sakurai during his early gamer days as much as Zelda, which design do you think he's gonna choose?

The one that dates back all the way back to the 80's where Sakurai played games and is clearly visible on the game's cover art?



or the one that appeared in an obscure 2001 game and is no longer used as the main design in advertising as evidenced by Grimoire of Souls and Super Bomberman R?
Gotta say, I favor the blond barbarian design. I guess they could do a P1/P2...
Or, just have Simon in as the ginger, and put Dovahkiin in to be the blond barbarian; they look similar enough...

I'm not really putting much stock in this leak nonsense. I can't get past a Sunday Direct, and there's a lot of wish-fulfillmenty things on it. And despite all of that, it's not offering Hyrule Warriors DLC with the Champions? Ugh.

But if we do have a playable Kroc next week, I'll totally be okay with that...
 
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Someone needs to start a vehicular manslaughter meme with Captain Falcon as to why F-Zero isn't a thing anymore.

If Yoshi commits tax fraud, Captain Falcon had his licenses revoked for vehicular manslaughter.
Time for the usual PSA that Captain Douglas J. Falcon is a murder-happy sociopath.

- In the Melee intro, he pushes Samurai Goroh's Fire Stingray off the track to his explosive death.
- In Brawl's Subspace Emissary he commits mass Pikmin genocide without batting an eye.
- In Robin and Lucina's reveal trailer he commits two counts of Attempted Regicide and successfully killed Chrom's Smash Bros. hopes and dreams.

He is a criminal menace and should not be allowed to pilot a high-speed vehicle, your honor.
 

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Honestly those New Super Mario games shouldn't have Wario OR Waluigi.

Those games should be where they do Super Mario Bros 2 style **** and just have Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Toad. But I supposed they did that with Super Mario 3D World to a degree.
Agreed.

Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Toad, and Toadette would be good.
 

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Totally agree. We’re gonna get a Bayo situation where half of Simon’s alts are his original and his other half are the recent design, with the recent design being the default one.
It seems weird to me to make the "recent" (i assume you mean Chronicles) the default one, even though Konami is marketing the Classic Design as the default while pushing Chronicles to the side.

Mind you that when Mega Man was added in Smash 4, the most recent Classic Games were 9 and 10, which were 8-bit homages just like Mega Man in 4, so you could argue The shorter Mega Man was more "recent" that the lanky design introduced in 7 and 8.

I still think that from what i have seen regarding Smash and Castlevania lately, Blonde Barbarian Simon wil be the default one and that's what most people would prefer, especially those who followed the franchise since the NES.
 

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Time for the usual PSA that Captain Douglas J. Falcon is a murder-happy sociopath.

- In the Melee intro, he pushes Samurai Goroh's Fire Stingray off the track to his explosive death.
- In Brawl's Subspace Emissary he commits mass Pikmin genocide without batting an eye.
- In Robin and Lucina's reveal trailer he commits two counts of Attempted Regicide and successfully killed Chrom's Smash Bros. hopes and dreams.

He is a criminal menace and should not be allowed to pilot a high-speed vehicle, your honor.
I don't know why, but the use of the word "PSA" inspired me to make this:
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It's not for no reason; in the Japanese version, Snake is voiced by Akio Otsuka who is the son of late Chikao Otsuka who voiced Eggman from 1998 to 2015 where he sadly passed away. Eggman hates Sonic, so his son hates Sonic as well.

It doesn't translate well in English.
I think it's easy enough to explain. When Brawl came out, Sonic's two most recent offerings were Sonic '06 and Secret Rings. I'd hate ANYONE who put me through that.
 

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mmmhhhh.... Why would they change the logo from Earthbound to Mother 3 if Mother 3 never came outside Japan... yet...
MMMMHHHHHHHHH....
The real reason is pretty mundane; they just want the stage select logos to display the actual game the stage comes from. For example, Saffron City displays Pokemon Red Version / Pokemon Blue Version.
 

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I don't know why, but the use of the word "PSA" inspired me to make this:
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"So... you tried to recover high, got stomped, and now you're dead, stuck in the For Glory lobby thinking about your life choices..."
 
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