Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Zinith]

But one that could easily set people off. I've seen many threads on various sites turn into political fights because of comments like this.

I understand. But I've learned to pick up on cues and not take things so personally. I'm autistic, which means it's a LOT harder for me to lighten up than most people. But I manage

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Jokes are fine, just watch it on what you joke about.

Nah. There was nothing wrong with that joke and you know it.

Literally everyone here seems to think it was funny, but two of you.

The joke wasn't even about her being gay. It was about how exhausting homophobia can be.

Soo......what's the problem again?

 

[?????????????]

This was a fun little project!

That's truly awesome and amazing, dude. I'd like this post twice if I could!

 

[Nekoo]

Made concepts of Dr. Kawashima and how he would be like in Smash Bros. fighting:

You can't be deconfirmed for Smash when you're already an assist trophy.

I'm sorry for the ded meme

 

[Pacack]

Made concepts of Dr. Kawashima and how he would be like in Smash Bros.:

This was a fun little project!

While I've never thought he was particularly likely, I do really appreciate the amount of work that went into this.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

Viewin the past few posts on this thread got me like

 

[One winged Devil]

Nah. There was nothing wrong with that joke and you know it.

Literally everyone here seems to think it was funny, but two of you.

The joke wasn't even about her being gay. It was about how exhausting homophobia can be.

Soo......what's the problem again?

The way you worded was the problem, you might want to watch it with being smug like that sweetie.

 

[Pazzo.]

Made concepts of Dr. Kawashima and how he would be like in Smash Bros.:

This was a fun little project!

I'm scared now.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

The way you worded was the problem, you might want to watch it with being smug like that sweetie.

How the hell did I even word it wrong?

Like the reaches, sweetie. The reaches.

Are your arms tired? Wii Fit Trainer has you working over time I see.

 

[SlickWylde]

Made concepts of Dr. Kawashima and how he would be like in Smash Bros.:

This was a fun little project!

Teen rated game, man. You can't do that!! Haha that's cool!!

 

[Pacack]

The way you worded was the problem, you might want to watch it with being smug like that sweetie.

How the hell did I even word it wrong?

Like the reaches, sweetie. The reaches.

Are your arms tired? Wii Fit Trainer has you working over time I see.

Now, now, light on the shade, you two.

 

[Sigran101]

I understand. But I've learned to pick up on cues and not take things so personally. I'm autistic, which means it's a LOT harder for me to lighten up than most people. But I manage

Believe me, I understand. I am also autistic, plus bipolar, turrets, and other various ailments. The problem is that some people do take things personally, and I don't want political arguments in my smash forums. Back to actual smash discussion though, how many newcomers are people expecting?

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Made concepts of Dr. Kawashima and how he would be like in Smash Bros.:

This was a fun little project!

I feel like this could make for a unique and interesting boss considering he's basically a giant head, but I really like it regardless; good job.

Also, did you really just do what I think you did for the last one...?

>Implying my Lucina x Palutena ships aren't canon.

x and x "searching for the answer that lies in the heart of battle" are the most canon ships tho???

 

[Pazzo.]

The way you worded was the problem, you might want to watch it with being smug like that sweetie.

How the hell did I even word it wrong?

Like the reaches, sweetie. The reaches.

Are your arms tired? Wii Fit Trainer has you working over time I see.

Can you two take this outside?

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

Made concepts of Dr. Kawashima and how he would be like in Smash Bros.:

This was a fun little project!

I don't know if I'm more uncomfortable with his grab animation, or if I find it hilarious that it hurts Luigi to add 1 to 3...either way I love it.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Believe me, I understand. I am also autistic, plus bipolar, turrets, and other various ailments. The problem is that some people do take things personally, and I don't want political arguments in my smash forums. Back to actual smash discussion though, how many newcomers are people expecting?

2+ years in development.

I'm thinking at least 15. We might get as many as Smash 4 base roster, but I'm doubtful.

We'll see though. I could be way off.

 

[?????????????]

Can you two take this outside?

Settle it in Smash.

 

[Pazzo.]

I think 10 characters, longer DLC schedule.

 

[Zinith]

Wasn't Dr. Kawashima already considered for Smash before? Or was that just rumors?

 

[MysticKnives]

Late to the Capcom discussion but I'd love for Chun Li to get into Smash. But I'll always stand by my Power Stone characters just cause that was my introduction to Capcom. I was mainly playing other things before then.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

If it helps?

I don't only want Tracer to watch the world burn.

I also happen to think she's a pretty neat character who has easy moveset potential.

Recall could be really really really really annoying in Smash Brothers though.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Believe me, I understand. I am also autistic, plus bipolar, turrets, and other various ailments. The problem is that some people do take things personally, and I don't want political arguments in my smash forums. Back to actual smash discussion though, how many newcomers are people expecting?

Anywhere between 12 and 15, I'm also confident in the whole 'no cuts' thing.

 

[Pacack]

Back to actual smash discussion though, how many newcomers are people expecting?

It depends on whether returning veterans and (semi-)clones count as newcomers for me, honestly.

I expect Ice Climbers and Wolf to return. Snake could as well

I could see Dixie happen either as a unique character, a semi-clone, or as a part of a Diddy/Dixie tag team like was originally planned for Brawl.

I could see Impa being a clone of some sort, even if I'd rather she be unique.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Alph becomes a full on clone rather than a costume.

So, I'm expecting, like, 12ish entirely new characters, two or three returning veterans, and maybe some clones added to that. Then I expect at least six DLC characters.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

If it helps?

I don't only want Tracer to watch the world burn.

I also happen to think she's a pretty neat character who has easy moveset potential.

Recall could be really really really really annoying in Smash Brothers though.

For someone who hasn't played overwatch in like 100 years, does recall reverse damage received as well? Because holy **** that would he unique and probably unbalanced lol...actually recall probably wouldn't be able to work the way it does because of moving stages...good way to KO yourself lol.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

For what its worth, we had at least 17 (I think) newcomers in the base roster for Smash 4, so I think Smash Switch will have less that than that, but not by much. I'm thinking at least a total of 12 characters will be added, 10 of them being newcomers, leaving room for Wolf and Ice Climbers to come back.

I exclude Snake because I'd like to imagine it'd be a sign of respect on Sakurai's end because of what happened between Kojima and Konami.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

I think 10 characters, longer DLC schedule.

Assuming this really is a brand new game I'm gonna be so disappointed if they go down this route, this is sakurai tho so I don't see him doing this, he really loves to cram as much content in a game as possible and DLC with smash 4 was a complete afterthought.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

For someone who hasn't played overwatch in like 100 years, does recall reverse damage received as well? Because holy **** that would he unique and probably unbalanced lol...actually recall probably wouldn't be able to work the way it does because of moving stages...good way to KO yourself lol.

It does recall her health, yeah. So like if she had 100 percent damage, she could recall back a bit and maybe be at like 80 percent damage instead.

It'd be very....different.

 

[Arcadenik]

Think of a PC character? Umm, well...

Paperclip?

Good choice. I would main the SkiFree Monster.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

As far as how many characters we get, I could see something going like this:

Smash gets revealed, shows off like 6 newcomers.

“The game will launch with all characters from Smash Bros. Wii U, as well as these six characters in October 2018.”

*Screen flashes

“HOWEVER, shortly after launch, we’ll be updating the game with 3 more newcomers.”

*Shows new characters

“This will come in a free update. Thank you for your patience!”

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

As far as how many characters we get, I could see something going like this:

Smash gets revealed, shows off like 6 newcomers.

“The game will launch with all characters from Smash Bros. Wii U, as well as these six characters in October 2018.”

*Screen flashes

“HOWEVER, shortly after launch, we’ll be updating the game with 3 more newcomers.”

*Shows new characters

“This will come in a free update. Thank you for your patience!”

I highly doubt they'll be free, Nintendo would be dumb to not charge money for smash characters. It's not like with Arms and Splatoon which are new franchises, they know people will shell out money for newcomers and Smash 4 already did the paid dlc thing

 

[DeiSakuChris]

If both Link and Ganondorf got completely revamped movesets (and maybe even Zelda to some extend, although I love her current gameplay despite being low tier) do you think this would "warrant" the Zelda series to not get any newcomers ?

From how I see it, Sakurai really seems to be fixated on the idea that all three technically being the only playable characters represent the series well enough (from the gameplay side, because obviously there's also assist trophies, stages, items and all that behind). On one side, It fits the idea of the triforce, and it's those kind of things that satisfies the whole "developer's philosophy" thing. On the other I feel like Zelda fans are really gonna lose their **** if once again there's no new characters from the franchise, so I'm not sure how to assert the current state of TLOZ in regards to smash bros.

What's your take on it ?

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

As far as how many characters we get, I could see something going like this:

Smash gets revealed, shows off like 6 newcomers.

“The game will launch with all characters from Smash Bros. Wii U, as well as these six characters in October 2018.”

*Screen flashes

“HOWEVER, shortly after launch, we’ll be updating the game with 3 more newcomers.”

*Shows new characters

“This will come in a free update. Thank you for your patience!”

But then you'll have the inevitable "why couldn't this be on disc day one?!?!?!" complaints despite it being free.

I'd be down for this, so long as the 6 on-disc is bumped up to 7 or 3 DLC up to 4.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

It does recall her health, yeah. So like if she had 100 percent damage, she could recall back a bit and maybe be at like 80 percent damage instead.

It'd be very....different.

At first this sounded pointless and kind of gross to me, but because of the positioning part, it could be interesting trying to time your movements so that you can use it to extend a combo. Finicky, but interesting.

The way you worded was the problem, you might want to watch it with being smug like that sweetie.

You might want to watch it with policing people. There are mods for a reason and I'm confident that they don't need your help.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

You and I both know that there's no reason to pity that man.

I must pity him

 

[True Blue Warrior]

There is going to be a lot more newcomers than some think and there is going to be cuts.

 

[Opossum]

I'm hiding from Ninten-jas in a broom closet, it I finally have a moment to leak my info.

First, what do we know about how characters are chosen?
1. Sakurai must see "potential".
2. They must be reasonably popular.
3. They usually are timely unless they're historical.

I'm here to tell you those "rules" are lies.

Within the spoiler tag is how Sakurai truly chooses characters. You may never see Smash the same again.

Spoiler: EVIDENCE

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I want to get off Mr. Sakurai's wild ride.

Here's the real reason why Europe's most wanted character got in through the ballot.

Nintendo of Europe banned the Game Corner so it was the only way.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

There is going to be a lot more newcomers than some think and there is going to be cuts.

The thing is, you can't say any of that for sure.

We have no idea what the development of this game is, what the background information of the game is, or anything other than Inklings, Mario, and BOTW Link. We know nothing.

There's obviously a chance for cuts. However, how can someone say that for sure when the dev cycle started shortly after Wii U, takes place during the launch cycle of a new console and death of the previous, and is already close to complete?

Speaking in absolutes has a way of biting us. I would be cautious. The development timeline is different for this game than effectively any Smash game, save for arguably Melee.

I'd say wait and see before we determine if there are cuts or not. As of right now, there's no way of telling.

As I've said before, I think it's entirely possible this game started as a "port this to the new console as quickly as possible with added new things" and turned into a full fledged "let's make this game amazing" by preserving as many of the characters as possible (if not all) from Wii U, and updating those models and stages and what not to be more current.

I also think it's odd, in the case that Nintendo wouldn't attempt to broker the deal for a character like Cloud for a sequel they know is coming in the next few years. If you're going to acquire freaking Cloud, why wouldn't you make sure he was in the title that would be in the sights of far more fans rather than a one-off DLC for a dying console?

Also, if money is an issue, why even bother acquiring him in the first place? It's not like Nintendo is hurting for cash anyway.

 

[Roberk]

I’m not going to exactly quantify what I expect as to not be disappointed. I just want to be satisfied with waiting 2-4 years after Smash 4 and paying $60 for a base game, maybe $20-40 extra for reasonable character DLC.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

For me, Smash doesn't' feel like it was that long ago, and DLC definitely wasn't, so it's gonna be like double the newcomers for me. I have faith in Sakurai that I will be more than happy with the newcomers we get.

 

[Burb]

Speaking of Burb, he doesn't visit here much, does he?

Burb

Honey, where are you?!

The children have requested their father's presence.

My husbando gets on every now and then. He's just not talking about the speculation period this much.

Probably because there isn't much to talk about really.

Responding to old posts, but they're about me and I was tagged in one of them, so I don't think it should matter, but that aside.....

Yeah, I'm just not popping in very often because, having gone through a good three months with nothing but a short teaser trailer, there's not really much left to talk about. It's all mindless speculation, which can be fun, but I think I've said everything I want to say at this point. Multiple times.

On top of that, in the off-chance I do come here, the discussion is usually on stuff I'm not really interested in talking about (Fire Emblem Heroes), so I'm left with no real reason to continue showing up regularly.....

....for now, at least. After Nintendo's E3 Digital Event, you will be seeing me on a regular basis again.