Super Smash Bros. Infinite Project (Finally Finished!???)

[Mr. Robotto]

Hm, perhaps I will make my pitch for a Shin Megami Tensei V stage. Not just a destroyed Tokyo but the backdrop to a full on war between God's forces and motherflipping Lucifer.

Yeah SMT goes kind of hard. This is the real deal, the dark prince of the netherworld literally just dips from the sky to take a giant crack of Tokyo out and nearly destroys the entirety of it right after punching God in the face. Imagine fighting atop a fallen building with Tokyo Tower in the distance among countless angels and demons fighting and then just BOOM, this guy pops in.

Spoilers for SMT V, some context for the stage:
Specifically, the destroyed Tokyo is known as "Da'at." It is what remains of Tokyo after a giant war between divinities occurs. There are some survivors however and by God's blessing, he recreates Tokyo in a Matrix style world where everyone is kept safe from the horrors. The demons in Da'at however seem to slowly be seeping into the fragile bubble of a false paradise forcing the Japanese branch of a worldwide organization known as Bethel to step in to stop them. However, as with most SMT games, the angels are not necessarily good guys. They prioritize order against all costs. The angels will kill demons even if it means humans must be sacrificed. The forces of chaos led by Lucifer eager to free humanity from their chains and create a free society.

unrelated but this has been my PC wallpaper ever since I've reached this scene in the game LOL

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

unrelated but this has been my PC wallpaper ever since I've reached this scene in the game LOL

How far are you in btw? I'm playing at a snail's pace but I just reached Da'at 3 and did a Black Frost side quest. Hee ho supremacy.

 

[Mr. Robotto]

How far are you in btw? I'm playing at a snail's pace but I just reached Da'at 3 and did a Black Frost side quest. Hee ho supremacy.

superboss spoilers, also vague ending stuff (but not really?)

defeated shiva and finally about to reach the true neutral ending after not liking the OTHER neutral ending

I actually sided with Dionysus for that one but it was on accident LOL, a simple misclick...

 

[SharkLord]

I don't have much stake in the matter, but I will say that Persona and SMT are basically separate series at this point. It's kinda like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy; They share some spells and sometimes they share characters, but in the case of the Atlus games, it's just some enemies and not major individuals like Cloud and Sephiroth. Sure, SMT has some Spirits and enemies, but it's not really that much more than Hades. I'd say both would be pretty new.

That said I have been eyeing Hades for a while. Regardless of who gets added, maybe I'll actually make good on that interest soon.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Counterpoint: that just sounds like a generic underworld setting. At least with Tokyo, you got SMT demons running around and possibly breaking the fourth wall.

Have you ever even looked at Hades

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Never played either game and they both look subpar to me :x
Pokémon is really the only monster collector I like and Nahobino’s design doesn’t hook me in. Hades on the other hand just doesn’t really interest me asi dislike the art style and I don’t like rogue like-games.

That being said, Destroyed Tokyo seems far more interesting than Palace of Hades. That’s bias though as anything with Tokyo in it makes it great.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I feel like Nahobino and SMT in general could be submitted for a wider range of possible upcoming prompts than Hades. SMT kinda neatly fits the view of DLC we’ve come to expect since Ultimate whereas Zagreus would reinvigorate speculation like Joker himself did, so I feel like the former is more suited for a job down the line given SMT’s noteriety and the latter would be now-or-never at the season’s opening. Question is, do we take the gamble and trust that SMT will come through later?

 

[Deleted member]

I think both have their merits. One is a legacy JRPG seires and one is a recent indie darling. Despite both being sprawling games that deal with demons and mythology, I feel they both take the pass in different directions. I really don't mind who wins here.

 

[Yiptap]

Zagreus is cool, but you know what Nahobino has that Zagreus doesn’t?

Hee Ho!

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Zagreus is cool, but you know what Nahobino has that Zagreus doesn’t?
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Hee Ho!

wdym thats literally hypnos

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

Here are some jarring comparisons between the two games.

SMT Persephone Badass demonic design representing her ties between visiting her mother and hades. Torn in half and still just vibes eating pomegranates. Will probably tear you in half too.	Hades Persephone Literally just a normal woman. "Pweez Zagweeus pweez come back to me everyone once in a while " Could not tear you in half.
SMT Demeter Literally added as waifu bait Innacurate design "Pweez mr. protag-kun, find me de fwuits I need for mr. god "	Hades Demeter Old and wise, truly emblematic of a mother goddess. Gives and takes away bountiful harvest as she pleases. Don't F with this goddess girlboss.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Voting will end in a little bit. Please try to get your vote in to decide who we will include!

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Let Zagreus win!
His game is very unique and we need a rougelike Rep in game!

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I feel like Nahobino and SMT in general could be submitted for a wider range of possible upcoming prompts than Hades. SMT kinda neatly fits the view of DLC we’ve come to expect since Ultimate whereas Zagreus would reinvigorate speculation like Joker himself did, so I feel like the former is more suited for a job down the line given SMT’s noteriety and the latter would be now-or-never at the season’s opening. Question is, do we take the gamble and trust that SMT will come through later?

There you go. Both could get in, but this is Zag's only chance. Vote for him.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

There you go. Both could get in, but this is Zag's only chance. Vote for him.

With all due respect, an indie job could totally happen for DLC.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

With all due respect, an indie job could totally happen for DLC.

Yeah, Zagreus the best guy!

Virgin Nahobino vs. Chad Zagreus

 

[Capybara Gaming]

With all due respect, an indie job could totally happen for DLC.

And then he'll lost to funny skeleton man or Imposter. No thanks.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

And then he'll lost to funny skeleton man or Imposter. No thanks.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Zagreus topped a previous vote before pretty well. That said you better watch out for sussy among imposter us sussus usa imposter canada mexico AMOGUS!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

And the results are in! The leadership felt that we had received enough votes to clearly show who the winner for our first DLC newcomer. Please remember that this character will be featured as our very first DLC at the Game Awards Show and will start that event off. Following this, the next DLC will be arranged after we decide on which characters to include. This will allow us to adjust the DLC season to be more visually pleasing.

Name	Points
Nahobino	9
Zagreus	12

With that, our first DLC character has finally been decided!!!

Spoiler: Plike beer too sea!

Thank you for everyone for submitting and voting! As we move into our first DLC season, we are eager to see what we come up with and include! This experience should feel far more different than what we were doing before!

Spoiler: Newcomer incoming...

Zagreus
Of all of the games in Infinite, Hades is one I know zero about but I also know zero about SMT. That being said, Hades and Zagreus is quite notable for its rogue-like play and winning numerous awards such as Best Indie and Action Game at the Game Awards 2020, nominated for Best Game in 2020, as well as the nominated for many other categories as well. The game is developed by indie developer Supergiant and has gone onto become a critical success but one that doesn't have much a foreseeable future.

In terms of what this means for the rest of the pack, adding Zagreus means we won't be adding the following categories/types into our first Season DLC

• A Western Character
• Roguelike Franchise
• Another Supergiant newcomer
• Another Indie rep
• A character loosely based on Hell/Hades/Afterlife/Undead/etc
• A Dark Red Themed Character (Color Theory)

This is in order to keep the season pack looking fresh and diverse. Now, the ? mark around Western Character is due to it not being entitely decided upon. The leadership team will be discussing more about this at a later date.

You are free to put things in inline spoilers or spoiler tags but within the next hour or so, we will move discussion to what sort of content we could incorporate into this DLC Pack. Remember that Infinite DLC Bundles will contain the following content:

• An unique title for that Bundle
• New Fighter
• New Stage
• Music
• Spirit/Spirit Board
• Master Spirit
• SmashSpace Content
  • Plus two additional content which could be:
    • An Assist Trophy
    • An Item
    • A Smash Dungeon location
    • A Smash Dungeon Enemy
    • A Boss that appears in more than one mode
    • A Masterpiece

We will be discussing what to include as well as the newcomer themselves within the next hour or so.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Would "Undead Unluck" be a good title for the pack? I know nothing about Hades, but I've heard of a manga called that, and thought it'd be funny...

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

Congrats to Zagreus, it was a well fought battle. However, I'm about to take the fattest nap in history so someone ping me when we get a Sega job.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

Congrats to Zagreus, it was a well fought battle. However, I'm about to take the fattest nap in history so someone ping me when we get a Sega job.

When CP2 will arrive.
I bet you want Nahobino, but I want Space Harrier for Smash.

We're not the same.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

When CP2 will arrive.
I bet you want Nahobino, but I want Space Harrier for Smash.

We're not the same.

Whoa whoa whoa easy there, you're treading W3 levels of character picks there buddy. Dangerous territory

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Whoa whoa whoa easy there, you're treading W3 levels of character picks there buddy. Dangerous territory

Nah, I'm preparing "Master System Snail Maze snail" for a Sega job.

jokes aside i'll probably go for tails or bonanza bros

 

[Deleted member]

sega rep you say?..

 

[WeirdChillFever]

A Dark Red Themed Character (Color Theory)

Errr, alright then

This is in order to keep the season pack looking fresh and diverse. Now, the ? mark around Western Character is due to it not being entitely decided upon. The leadership team will be discussing more about this at a later date.

No no, don’t be shy. We’ve got a western character now, no need for any other. Gotta keep it fresh.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

sega rep you say?..

(Facepalm), sigh,
He is not a video game character, he debuted on Commercials.

 

[Deleted member]

(Facepalm), sigh,
He is not a video game character, he debuted on Commercials.

Have you ever heard of a joke.

 

[chocolatejr9]

(Facepalm), sigh,
He is not a video game character, he debuted on Commercials.

Segata's gonna beat you up for that, y'know...

 

[GolisoPower]

Nice job for getting Zagreus into Smash Bros! I've already got a lot of ideas brewing in how he'd play! As for the stage, I think we could serve to go for something that's not entirely obvious like Theseus and Asterius's Arena. I mean, we all thought Traverse Town was gonna be Sora's stage in Ultimate, but nope! We got Hollow Bastion instead! Don't get me wrong, it's a good choice, but it's a much different choice from what was generally agreed on. As for the moveset, for some reason, I imagine Zagreus transplanting some parts of Hero's Down B for his gimmick, since I felt like the major RNG part of that move felt more suited for a Roguelike character than a turn-based RPG character.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

I have some ideas for Hades DLC stuff.
We could have SmashSpace Items themed after Hades.
Or smash dungeon enemy from Hades game.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't know a lot about Hades but I'm glad he got in. No more western characters is pretty huge but will maybe help us narrow down the pass.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Will other western characters be allowed for the non-pass newcomers? Or newcomers in future passes?

 

[tonygameman]

Segata's gonna beat you up for that, y'know...

So right, he did appear in some video games like Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Rent-A-Hero No. 1 (as a dojo instruction who taught Taro Yamada various martial arts moves) and Project X Zone 2 (dialogue/attacks), especially said even his very own Japanese-exclusive one on SEGA Saturn.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

So right, he did appear in some video games like Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Rent-A-Hero No. 1 (as a dojo instruction who taught Taro Yamada various martial arts moves) and Project X Zone 2 (dialogue/attacks), especially said even his very own Japanese-exclusive one on SEGA Saturn.

He appeared in Games, but he debuted on Commercials.
So the Conclusion is his deconfirmation.

 

[Deleted member]

He appeared in Games, but he debuted on Commercials.
So the Conclusion is his deconfirmation.

R.O.B was a toy first.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

R.O.B was a toy first.

ROB was NES Video Game Peripheral, which he could control blocks in Games like Gyromite and he had relation with Video Games and Nintendo/Super Smash Bros.
But Segata Sanshiro is a Non-VG Commercial character that only beated up Non-Sega Saturn kids and he doesn't have a relation with Nintendo to join Smash.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

We did a poll about whether The Witcher is elegible and came out of it with a yes, even if no Witcher content made it in, so game characters who didn't debut in games aren't completely off the table.

 

[Mr. Robotto]

Hades won, nice.

I'm gonna do some content for this pack, got a lot of ideas running through my head (in all respect, would've done the same for Nahobino). I'm for the idea of Zagreus' down special (or shield special, still brainstorming over here) being a randomized boon selection, as it completely visualizes the gameplay of Hades' randomized dungeons. I've got a pretty good idea of how he should play, and I'm looking forward to presenting it here soon.

Also, Hades has a lot to pull from, can't wait for the other jobs like Assist Trophy, stage and music. That's gonna be fun.

Anyways have a comically large Theseus.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I will be submitting a stage got Zag when we can.

Oh, and if we're doing Sega characters, I think we all know who I'm submitting.