Im not very new, I know of the game and know that there is a competitive scene for it. I just want to be good in this version for the new sm so that I can be familiar with the game in terms of playing competitively. I know theres things like wave dashing but I honestly do not know where to start. I already know that I want to use Roy and yes I know he is one of the lowest tiered characters. But besides that I would like to know where to start and where to head from there
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Super new, where do I start?
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Ezzee
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Well, the first thing you need to do as a roy main would probably be learning how to SHFFL. I think that would be a pretty good start to get your combo game as him going. Also, if you're going to main a low tier, just accept he's bad and compensate for his weakness' or else the same thing will happen over and over again. Wavedashing is probably a good thing to know for a lower level of play because wavedash fsmash destroys inexpirienced player. Also, Melee isn't the game to learn how to play smash 4, smash 4 is. They are likely to be drastically different games with different mechanics, so all you'll really understand when smash 4 comes out is the basic controls, and even then you'll have to switch controllers since you can't use gamecube controllers on WiiU.
S7GF
Smash Journeyman
Start with the basic advanced techniques. Practice the following:
-L-canceling
-Wavedashing
-SHFFLing
Once you get those down, you can start on the harder advanced techniques. What's important is that you get these down ASAP. I would NOT recommend playing against computers. You WILL develop bad habits.
Check out your local smash scene, and get involved! I would recommend only doing this once you have the techniques mastered that are listed above. You will get your ass kicked. But that's ok! I am still getting my ass kicked. Naturally, you will get better, and you will have a lot of fun.
Once you get involved in your local smash scene, pay attention to your matches. Record them if possible so you can watch them later. Realize what you're doing wrong, and ask for any tips if you need help.
-L-canceling
-Wavedashing
-SHFFLing
Once you get those down, you can start on the harder advanced techniques. What's important is that you get these down ASAP. I would NOT recommend playing against computers. You WILL develop bad habits.
Check out your local smash scene, and get involved! I would recommend only doing this once you have the techniques mastered that are listed above. You will get your ass kicked. But that's ok! I am still getting my ass kicked. Naturally, you will get better, and you will have a lot of fun.
Once you get involved in your local smash scene, pay attention to your matches. Record them if possible so you can watch them later. Realize what you're doing wrong, and ask for any tips if you need help.
Ezzee
Smash Apprentice
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What I mean is that Roy is a character with big flaws. I'm not an expert on him, but I'm pretty sure he can do almost nothing against platform camping. This means you have to make sure that never happens. Also, I wouldn't say to never practice against CPU's, but keep practicing against them to a minimum and you really only want to use them to practice SHHFL'ing against a target.
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Choose 1 of the tournament viable 8 to play as. Since you're interested in Roy, I'd recommend Marth. Good characters can do things and you won't be limited by having dysfunctional tools. Here's an easy Marth guide to get started http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AexiFPr6x84 And click the links in the video description before you see the video
Playing any fighting game will teach you how to win in any fighting game. But they won't teach you how to play other fighting games. Simply playing fighting games against human players will teach you the strategic aspects of the genre, like predicting your opponent and staying unpredictable. Find a local tournament scene or play a fighting game online http://smashboards.com/forums/tournament-listings.51/ http://smashboards.com/forums/regional-zones.89/
Playing any fighting game will teach you how to win in any fighting game. But they won't teach you how to play other fighting games. Simply playing fighting games against human players will teach you the strategic aspects of the genre, like predicting your opponent and staying unpredictable. Find a local tournament scene or play a fighting game online http://smashboards.com/forums/tournament-listings.51/ http://smashboards.com/forums/regional-zones.89/
Ezzee
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Anyone can make almost any character tournament viable. Shroomed with doc, Axe with Pikachu, Cosmo with zelda etc. Of course it's easier with Marth than Roy, but I think it's more important to simply have fun. Maybe he can make Roy work, Sethlon has proven that roy can do well
rjgbadger
Banned via Warnings
you should definitely learn to tech before you can shffl.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Learn how to dash dance at a variety of lengths. Learn how to dash cancel. Learn how to JC grab. Learn how to l-cancel, SH, and WD (especially out of shield).
R2_GP
Smash Journeyman
Dash dance and L-cancel first, then have fun learning how to wavedash 
Bones0
Smash Legend
Search YouTube for Wak's "Advanced How To Play (SSBM)".
Marmalad3
Smash Cadet
A good place to start is by getting ready for the HUGE amount of stuff people are gonna tell you you have to learn. And while all of it's true, you have to make sure that you're gonna be able to have fun despite all the really, REALLY, frustrating hours of trying to learn the game. (It'll be worth it though if you stick with it.) I would say that you should start by getting a good mentality towards the game. Make sure you can continue enjoying yourself.
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It's fun when you play a character that can actually do things. Being incapable of things by the limits of your own character is painful. Try to fight a Fox or Falcon as Zelda. You can not do a thing about their dash dance. And when they juggle you, gg. Unless you're Cosmo, or close enough to that caliber. Playing a good character will prevent you from getting wrecked by your character's flawed designs being exploited
Player skill is still important, but how often can the gap in ability outweigh the gap in characters' tools?
Engo
Smash Ace
Doc and Pika are nowhere near as bad as Roy. They're tournament viable in the hands of a really skilled player (plus lack of matchup knowledge by other players can help).
As for Cosmo he was pretty good but not at the level of these two guys plus he learned the game with Marth and got pretty solid with him before switching to Zelda. Learning the game with such a bad character can be really hard and counter productive to you learning the game and improving as a player.
My personal rule is anyone worse than Link, should be avoided when you're first starting off.
edit: I should add that this is all assuming that improvement is your primary goal.
As for Cosmo he was pretty good but not at the level of these two guys plus he learned the game with Marth and got pretty solid with him before switching to Zelda. Learning the game with such a bad character can be really hard and counter productive to you learning the game and improving as a player.
My personal rule is anyone worse than Link, should be avoided when you're first starting off.
edit: I should add that this is all assuming that improvement is your primary goal.