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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Cadillac

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What would be the local name of Isaac in Korea? 🤔

I doubt it's gonna beat Hans, and Vlad, but I'll be curious what they're gonna name him.

Changing languages to hear the different names shout by the announcer is gonna be more fun even than with Jigglypuff.

"PUMMELUFF"!!! "RONDOUDOU"!!! :ultjigglypuff:
Isaac's Korean name is 로빈(Robin) because back in Brawl, every name was translated. Now currently he's the only Golden Sun character in Smash to have a Korean name, since all the others are written in English.
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Cadillac

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Most likely, they'll go with Robin, his Japanese name. I'm pretty sure Korea uses the Japanese voice clips for every character, so this would stay consistent.
Sorry about doubleposting, but just wanted to say with it:
Do Korea use Japanese voices for every characters? Actually, no.
Belmonts, Snake, Ryu/Ken, Alucard, Zero uses English voices. Weirdly, Guile and Gray Fox uses Japanese.
 

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The thing that websites often do is pile new trademarks with renewals. It's always recommended to research into the trademark to verify if it's a new one or just a routine renewal. Ghosts N Goblins, like golden sun, got a WHOLE new trademark filed and will be getting a new game. The sun will continue to rise adepts.
 

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The thing that websites often do is pile new trademarks with renewals. It's always recommended to research into the trademark to verify if it's a new one or just a routine renewal. Ghosts N Goblins, like golden sun, got a WHOLE new trademark filed and will be getting a new game. The sun will continue to rise adepts.
Back in 2018 some websites covered the Golden Sun trademark, course it was headlined with something negative like prepared to be disappointed, lumping it together with other trademark renewals without going any further into the details of the actual trademark itself. Then you could have something like the above and articles will be all, guys get hyped for dozens of new games! lol.
 

tbuster766

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Back in 2018 some websites covered the Golden Sun trademark, course it was headlined with something negative like prepared to be disappointed, lumping it together with other trademark renewals without going any further into the details of the actual trademark itself. Then you could have something like the above and articles will be all, guys get hyped for dozens of new games! lol.
It explains why in part people still call it a renewal. That being said it's always something worth looking into and following up with as this thread spent months on to see where it is going :)
 
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Looks like we're getting Bowser's Fury trailer around 12 hours from now, it doesn't kill directs for this month but it does possibly put a damper on this week at least.

I made a fun Golden Sun edit out of it at least
 

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Looks like we're getting Bowser's Fury trailer around 12 hours from now, it doesn't kill directs for this month but it does possibly put a damper on this week at least.

I made a fun Golden Sun edit out of it at least
I wonder whose fury would it be in GS, lol
 

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Along with today's Super Mario 3D World news, looks like the Mario 35 Phase Two rewards/missions have been quietly added to that website. I think that pretty well negates the chance of anything more than an Indie World presentation this month, although on a personal note, I sure hope they don't keep us waiting too long for the inevitable Age of Calamity DLC news.
 

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Along with today's Super Mario 3D World news, looks like the Mario 35 Phase Two rewards/missions have been quietly added to that website. I think that pretty well negates the chance of anything more than an Indie World presentation this month, although on a personal note, I sure hope they don't keep us waiting too long for the inevitable Age of Calamity DLC news.
Most likely next month in zelda anniversary month
 

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Along with today's Super Mario 3D World news, looks like the Mario 35 Phase Two rewards/missions have been quietly added to that website. I think that pretty well negates the chance of anything more than an Indie World presentation this month, although on a personal note, I sure hope they don't keep us waiting too long for the inevitable Age of Calamity DLC news.
I feel like it's a bit early to be thinking about directs just yet anyways. Usually Nintendo seems to favor March for spring directs, sometimes a month before or after. Even without COVID, I doubt we'd get a direct this month anyways
 

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The 20th anniversary celebrations have been revealed tipped off with a commissioned artwork (which our artist is selling), a 20th anniversary icon and a long timeframe for some artists to really make some cool stuff. Hoping this is our year =)
 

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Looking forward to the anniversary. It would be crazy if something official comes out at the same time. I'm not expecting anything at the level of Mario/Pokemon/Zelda, but any announcement of something will be nice this year.

I'm curious if this big Golden Sun will get some YouTube attention too.
It's definitely getting attention. There's only silence now as there's not much reason to talk about a game that is currently considered dead and has no new entry announced and news for youtubers to create and discuss relevant content about.
 

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Boy, it sucks just not having much to look forward to right now. :D

Everyone's all gushing about Mario 3D World but I don't like that game's style of play compared to the other 3D Mario games and I lost interest in Pokemon long ago.

At least there's Persona 5 Strikers. Finally.
 
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As someone who's only recently started looking into Golden Sun, I think my favorite thing relating to the series is this.
Wait wait wait, is this official? I am listening to this for the first time?! How come all these years I never came across this one?
 

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Last night I had a dream where there was a Nintendo Direct and a Super Smash Bros portion started and it began showing Ivan and what looked like a Golden Sun battle and I began tearing up and going "OMG OMG OMG" and Isaac showed up. But then that portion ended without revealing anyone as a character and at the end it said "this segment featured both characters and assist trophies".

I cannot believe I got trolled so hard by own dream. LOL. :(
 

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So, this video doesn't really pertain to anything in particular and afaik it might've even been posted already by someone at some point, but regardless is funny and I figure people here will get a lark out of it. Fingers crossed for Golden Sun news some time this year.
Also, for anyone new to Golden Sun, this video contains spoilers of varying degrees, so watch with discretion.
 
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By the way the r/GoldenSun server surpassed over 10,000 subscribers recently. It's grown so much in the last two years when we started taking greater strides in Golden Sun and Isaac demand. Here's how much followers the sub had in September 2018 for context
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Meh I will pass, I don't feel like explaining for the hundredth time why the fan rule is already basically broken / never was a thing (just like all fan rules really), specially knowing people over there won't change their mind anyways. I'm good with most people on this thread here understanding why Isaac is possible and even likely, lol. Thanks for the invite anyway, from my end 👍
 

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It's always interesting to read through non-Isaac supporter's takes on the character. Support threads can become a bit of an echo chamber with conflating points that make the character seem more likely than they actually are in the grand scope of options.

Subjectivity aside, I also totally get where Naz is coming from- these topics have been covered so often here that we are now beating an empty plot on the ground where a horse had once been. I guess we can brace ourselves for the surprised Pikachu meme once something Golden Sun gets announced.
 

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Kudos to those of you that expressed support for Isaac in the Rate Their Chances thread. I agree that the AT's de-confirm rule is pretty much in the trash and the signs pointing to a new Golden Sun game are very promising, though I find it irritating how fast the majority of that thread simply dismissed any of the Pro-Isaac arguments with "lol AT's aren't getting in" despite everything we have to consider. Unfortunately, it goes to show how much of Smash fandom is just about constant gatekeeping and emotionally denying the probability of certain characters getting in simply because people have no personal attachments to said characters. Aw well. I guess time will tell who's vindicated in the end.
 
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I'm pretty tired of arguing the same points. It's been far too long since I've been an active RTC participant, and it's clear no minds have changed since I left. Like, maybe I just take the whole rating process too seriously, but if you're presented with strong evidence of reconsidering base Ultimate content in Fighters Pass 2 as well as strong evidence a new Golden Sun release is imminent, why wouldn't you at least consider Isaac a non-zero possibility? Heck, the same people are generally arguing Waluigi isn't a possibility, and I'd argue he has an even stronger case given the vocal outcry since E3 2018. Good on y'all who choose to fight the good fight, but I'm not sure it's worth the energy to do so when the other side clearly isn't interested in hearing it.
 

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It's always interesting to read through non-Isaac supporter's takes on the character. Support threads can become a bit of an echo chamber with conflating points that make the character seem more likely than they actually are in the grand scope of options.

Subjectivity aside, I also totally get where Naz is coming from- these topics have been covered so often here that we are now beating an empty plot on the ground where a horse had once been. I guess we can brace ourselves for the surprised Pikachu meme once something Golden Sun gets announced.
The thing about support threads is it's made up of individuals who love the character and series. So while we're aware that Isaac is an assist trophy and that his series is currently dormant, it's not the end all be all to topics where it's just about Isaac's Smash chances. We can just have fun discussing Isaac and the series without constantly bringing the subject up.

As for the rate your chances thread, it is what the name implies. I personally never expect Isaac to get high ratings, ever lol. He will always have no chance cause he's an assist trophy and his series is dormant. And even trying to be open minded to non supporter takes about Isaac, it's not engaging or fun reading that Isaac's fans are entitled or stay believing in an non existent new game. At that point the takes aren't even about Isaac anymore but us as his supporters. Personally I don't think I'll be up to explaining why I rated Isaac so high and going back and forth over it. It's way too tiring and exhausting but really kudos to those that do.
 

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It's tiring that some just insist that it's impossible despite all evidences.
Of course we can be wrong, but they are so adamant it's just tiring.
Exactly. I totally understand if people want to argue that Isaac is unlikely, because in all honesty he is. AT's may not hard de-confirm, but having both a current AT and a Mii Costume are certainly two strikes against him. That said, there is still evidence to show that Isaac still has both fan demand and possible modern relevance, in addition to the fact that Sakurai has constantly shown that fan rules are meant to be broken. And what if we get a Min Min vs Springman situation where we end up getting Matthew or Felix instead of Isaac but they still basically play the same? You can argue that Isaac's chances are 50%, 40%, 20%, 1%, even 0.00001%, but to say with all confidence that the chance is absolute zero is just a pathetic example of straight-up gatekeeping. I find it hard to take people seriously when they throw around such careless assumptions. It's like my boy Obi-wan says: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
 
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