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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

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The one thing about Isaac's sword is that his mii costume sword has a different visual effect(normal one is blue, Isaac's sword has greenish-blue gray effect) so I expect that to be in when he actually gets in.
 
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Honestly, I think Golden Sun ruined other RPGs for me.
Compelling characters, exceptional story telling (down to the fricken surprise cast twists and cliffhangers), collectible monsters, beloved elemental archetyping done the best I've ever seen it.

I guess this is why so many people aggregate towards Earthbound.
Bummed.
 

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By the way #goldensunday is in one week on the 24th of May. Hoping it's a good one!
Also there's a fanzine dedicated to the locales for Golden Sun to join if anyone is interested

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By the way #goldensunday is in one week on the 24th of May. Hoping it's a good one!
Also there's a fanzine dedicated to the locales for Golden Sun to join if anyone is interested

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Awesome, I hope I have my Golden Sun Nomura style project done by then haha. So far progress is being made

Update: Isaac done, now time to work on Felix :]
 
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Also there's a fanzine dedicated to the locales for Golden Sun to join if anyone is interested

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Man, even if there ends up not being a game after all, I'm loving this resurgence of the Golden Sun fandom. Simply seeing the fanart and such is wonderful!
 

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I wish Nintendo would make a Golden Sun anime and a Kid Icarus anime. Their art style fits and Kid Icarus kind of already has had a anime of certs though certain cutscenes in Uprising and through Palutena's reveal trailer. I want a full blown Kid Icarus anime though.
 

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I’ve probably said this before, but I still stand by this!


So, I’ve heard that Mario Golf is out of the picture. Golden Sun returning is looking more and more likely by the day! So excited!
 
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Oh? Any details?
Nate Drake who is as far as I know one of the most trusted insiders on Resetera pretty much denied Mario Golf happening anytime soon and with Camelot having this gap going on without a new game and coupled with the stuff in favor of Golden Sun things are looking great for us
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Nate Drake who is as far as I know one of the most trusted insiders on Resetera pretty much denied Mario Golf happening anytime soon and with Camelot having this gap going on without a new game and coupled with the stuff in favor of Golden Sun things are looking great for us
AFAIK Drake has a good record (or at least people on Resetera said that), but he was wrong in some things (he was the first one who said Metroid Prime Trilogy for switch would be revealed in 2018 game awards, he also said Star Fox GP existed...). Though, to be fair, others respectable insiders were also wrong in those ones (and the plans could have changed as to Metroid Prime Trilogy).

Regarding the last question of the image, do we know the context of the question? The guy who asked was refering those games would be launched this year or if those games just existed? Mario Golf could exist (sadly for us), but Wave Race it's just a dream caused by some interviews (that posibly they were refering to Nintendo Labo 3 kit).
 

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Nate Drake who is as far as I know one of the most trusted insiders on Resetera pretty much denied Mario Golf happening anytime soon and with Camelot having this gap going on without a new game and coupled with the stuff in favor of Golden Sun things are looking great for us
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I'm telling you guys, I think Golden Sun is finally making it's grand return. :)
 

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I'm going to choose to remain doubtful of the series' return so I'm not disappointed when it doesn't.

IF IT DOES THOUGH, I'M BRINGING OUT THE METAPHORICAL WHISKEY!
 

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I'm going to choose to remain doubtful of the series' return so I'm not disappointed when it doesn't.

IF IT DOES THOUGH, I'M BRINGING OUT THE METAPHORICAL WHISKEY!
Yeah, even if there are some things that could potentially point towards a new Golden Sun, it's hard not to take a "won't believe it until I see it" stance considering how neglected the franchise has been.
 
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AFAIK Drake has a good record (or at least people on Resetera said that), but he was wrong in some things (he was the first one who said Metroid Prime Trilogy for switch would be revealed in 2018 game awards, he also said Star Fox GP existed...). Though, to be fair, others respectable insiders were also wrong in those ones (and the plans could have changed as to Metroid Prime Trilogy).

Regarding the last question of the image, do we know the context of the question? The guy who asked was refering those games would be launched this year or if those games just existed? Mario Golf could exist (sadly for us), but Wave Race it's just a dream caused by some interviews (that posibly they were refering to Nintendo Labo 3 kit).
The fact that he is putting Mario Golf and Wave race together as a "never a had a chance" situation… there is nothing that implies Mario golf is an exception when it's compiled in such statement he is making. He is saying one thing for both titles at the same time.
 
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The fact that someone as credible as ND is saying there won't be a Mario Golf makes me really optimistic for the future of Golden Sun. Unless Camelot hardcore swerves us with something like Mario Hockey, I think we might be in the clear. :)

Of course, if a remake is really on the way, I could see it being released in December (where Nintendo usually releases big JRPG's like Xenoblade) and the game being revealed in September/October. And for once, that possibility isn't looking so hopeless as it did this past decade. Lets all hope so!

Also, unrelated to GS but good to see you back Swamp Sensei Swamp Sensei . Feels like forever since you've been here.
 

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If a GS remake does well, we can finally have a new GS game, possibly called Mourning Moon in reference to the specific Psynergy Vortex seen during the stinger of the third game. Remember that the vortexes weren’t actually dealt with by the end of Dark Dawn.
 

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I'm not sure if people are up on the claims that Nintendo has abandoned their plans for Directs for the foreseeable future (presumably until they get a better handle on the reshuffling of their plans), but if there is a GS in development and if it is to be shown sooner than later, a trailer being randomly dropped instead of being featured within a direct would be a definite impediment to GS's viability.

It's the kind of title more reliant on the eyes normally drawn to a direct, not exactly a title which will independently attract ample attention regardless. Its notoriety isn't that high, and, unlike, for example, Paper Mario, it thriving without a stage in which to provide spotlight is fairly dubious.

So personally, if a GS is in the cards, I wouldn't mind waiting until Nintendo gets back on the rails with their directs before showing it off so as to ensure a more profitable reception, and therefore a more assured future. Even if that means waiting longer.
 

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I'm not sure if people are up on the claims that Nintendo has abandoned their plans for Directs for the foreseeable future (presumably until they get a better handle on the reshuffling of their plans), but if there is a GS in development and if it is to be shown sooner than later, a trailer being randomly dropped instead of being featured within a direct would be a definite impediment to GS's viability.

It's the kind of title more reliant on the eyes normally drawn to a direct, not exactly a title which will independently attract ample attention regardless. Its notoriety isn't that high, and, unlike, for example, Paper Mario, it thriving without a stage in which to provide spotlight is fairly dubious.

So personally, if a GS is in the cards, I wouldn't mind waiting until Nintendo gets back on the rails with their directs before showing it off so as to ensure a more profitable reception, and therefore a more assured future. Even if that means waiting longer.
Whether it's a sudden news or in a direct, the more attention GS gets, the better.
 

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Nate Drake who is as far as I know one of the most trusted insiders on Resetera pretty much denied Mario Golf happening anytime soon and with Camelot having this gap going on without a new game and coupled with the stuff in favor of Golden Sun things are looking great for us
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I might be missing something but how does Camelot not working on 2 games mean that a GS game is in the works
For all we know they could be working on other things....aside from a franchise that they haven't touched in almost 20 years and Nintendo doesn't particularly care about. Why this?
 

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I might be missing something but how does Camelot not working on 2 games mean that a GS game is in the works
For all we know they could be working on other things....aside from a franchise that they haven't touched in almost 20 years and Nintendo doesn't particularly care about. Why this?
First of, the last GS game was 10 years ago, not 20 xD
Secondly: creating a new franchise is MUCH riskier than bringing back an old one. Just watch what happened with GameFreak's "Little Town Hero".
Third: This is the longest time Camelot spent not **announcing** anything. Much more releasing anything. A Mario Golf game doesn't take nearly 3 years to make. And even if they announce Golden Sun this year, it may still be in developpment for 1 more year or so for a release in 2021 for all we know.

Also: trademark.
 

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Yeah, I’m trying to get a post deleted. :p
On a different note, I think the important thing to note is that Mario Golf on the 3DS didn’t do so well considering it wasn’t on the million seller list and it would have to be made from scratch for the Switch unlike Aces. So the lack of a new Golf game right now makes sense.
 
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Given the "No Directs" news, I'm wondering if we might see Nintendo announce something via Summer Game Fest. They can't just not announce games unless they're just not going to have a holiday 2020 line-up (which would be bizarre), and even if a full Direct isn't viable, getting a couple Treehouse members on stream to discuss a trailer with Geoff Keighley seems preferable to dropping something out of the blue like they did with Paper Mario. Obviously there's no indication they're going that route so far, but I'd like to think Nintendo would consider it.
 

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Nate has already confirmed that there's more scheduled if things keep going well and not worse in Japan. More than just paper mario, pikmin 3 and the 3D mario games. Nintendo also said in their latest investor meeting at the start of this month, that they have unannounced games still on schedule.
Kyoto has lifted state of emergency (Nintendo HQ is there) and Tokyo is about to be decided whether they lift it there as well yet or not. I think tomorrow they will decide that. Things are going super well in Japan, they only got like 4k active cases left and the increases are to a minimum for weeks already. The "no direct" news could very well change if things keep going well this fast for them, don't expect a situational rumor to be real for longer when circumstances can change. Regardless of Direct happening or not soon, an announcement for whichever game can happen as soon as Nintendo sees it right if the release date they have scheduled is close enough to start marketing such game already, like they did with Paper Mario.
 
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Given the "No Directs" news, I'm wondering if we might see Nintendo announce something via Summer Game Fest. They can't just not announce games unless they're just not going to have a holiday 2020 line-up (which would be bizarre), and even if a full Direct isn't viable, getting a couple Treehouse members on stream to discuss a trailer with Geoff Keighley seems preferable to dropping something out of the blue like they did with Paper Mario. Obviously there's no indication they're going that route so far, but I'd like to think Nintendo would consider it.
I believe they have already been confirmed as not participating in Summer Game Fest.

But also I'm not sure I understand the underlying point here, since Nintendo literally just proved with Paper Mario that they are willing to just announce big games without a direct or otherwise largescale event to accompany it. It seems pretty clear to me that we can expect random game announcements throughout the summer/until things get back to normal.
 

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I believe they have already been confirmed as not participating in Summer Game Fest.

But also I'm not sure I understand the underlying point here, since Nintendo literally just proved with Paper Mario that they are willing to just announce big games without a direct or otherwise largescale event to accompany it. It seems pretty clear to me that we can expect random game announcements throughout the summer/until things get back to normal.
I understand they're not currently part of it, but plans can change. I just think it's bad form to drop a trailer with no warning like this when a venue for announcements is available and they have an established vehicle for announcements in Directs. If they want to get back to the latter, that's fine, but I think randomly dropping a major trailer like they did with Paper Mario is, at best, lazy, and at worst, disrespectful to your media partners.
 
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They only announced the Phase One lineup of the Summer Gamefest so far so Nintendo choosing to join it can happen, with the Paper Mario thing it's less of a possibility now but it's still possible
 

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I know we have flirted back and forth with Monlift Soft in our talks/wishes/wet dreams in this thread, but I was reading this timeline for them and their new project and kinda thinking pretty hard.

https://nintendoeverything.com/xeno...in-the-works-alongside-torna-and-new-project/

That's exactly the timeline of when Hiroyuki said he jumped off Aces and started his next thing - December 2017, and Takahashi says XC Remastered and their new stuff got approved May 2018, right as Aces was finishing up and Camelot was free. I'm not willing to believe that they're related, but it's just odd.

They showed concept art, they said they were working on a high fantasy game, hired up for it. I suppose this really depends on the scale of the Golden Sun remake, but Nintendo approved two of their studios to work independently on two separate big JRPGs in the same month?

I mean, for all we know Monlift Soft could be doing BotW2 or an action game or any number of things, as could Camelot, however doubtful, but the timeline just seems weird if these projects end up being similar.
 

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I'm leaning more toward a coincidence. Where have they talked about High Fantasy or shown concept arts ?
 

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First of, the last GS game was 10 years ago, not 20 xD
Secondly: creating a new franchise is MUCH riskier than bringing back an old one. Just watch what happened with GameFreak's "Little Town Hero".
Third: This is the longest time Camelot spent not **announcing** anything. Much more releasing anything. A Mario Golf game doesn't take nearly 3 years to make. And even if they announce Golden Sun this year, it may still be in developpment for 1 more year or so for a release in 2021 for all we know.

Also: trademark.
What's in Nintendo's interest to revitalize GS out of nowhere?
Camelot not announcing anything doesn't equate specially to GS either. It could be another Mario spinoff for all we know. And there has been a ton of fervor over trademarks....which mean nothing. Remember the Tales of icon trademark that resulted in nothing? Or the Rayman one?

It's better to not set unrealistic hopes in case it falls apart again.
 

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What's in Nintendo's interest to revitalize GS out of nowhere?
Camelot not announcing anything doesn't equate specially to GS either. It could be another Mario spinoff for all we know. And there has been a ton of fervor over trademarks....which mean nothing. Remember the Tales of icon trademark that resulted in nothing? Or the Rayman one?

It's better to not set unrealistic hopes in case it falls apart again.
A trademark, unrelated to the other ones, that Nintendo has been fighting to have it approved all around the world, including countries where the previous games never got released ? Yeah sure they do it for fun.

The Switch is a golden land for RPG as we have seen, of course having one of their franchises make a come back here would be of interrest to Nintendo.

Devs don't take year long breaks, the studios are constantly working on something. And as it is now, it's more likely to be Golden Sun than Mario Golf.
 
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